Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Have not got too much knowledge about injuries...maybe someone can help me: does a torn acl increase the risk to tear it again?

"Athletes who do return to their preinjury levels are at higher risk for a second ACL injury, compared to those who do not return or have no history of ACL injury."

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Have not got too much knowledge about injuries...maybe someone can help me: does a torn acl increase the risk to tear it again?

"Athletes who do return to their preinjury levels are at higher risk for a second ACL injury, compared to those who do not return or have no history of ACL injury."

Where'd you read that? I feel like the way healthcare is these days some of these rebuilt ACLs may end up being stronger than the real thing but I can also be talking out of my ass.

In either case end of the day knee injuries are more about luck than repaired vs normal ACL. Get bent back a certain way with your foot in the ground and unless it's made of titanium it's likely getting injured.

We just need Jimmy to be smart when he's moving. Think long term. If it's not the SB then live to play another down/game. Though honestly I'd rather see Jimmy running very little.

I'm no doctor nor do I play one on this forum but from what I've read the knee can be stronger after surgery in some players. If the player had a weak knee before the injury the surgery can make it stronger. A lot depends on the individual too since some people like Frank Gore heal better than others like Sam Bradford. It's wait and see.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Have not got too much knowledge about injuries...maybe someone can help me: does a torn acl increase the risk to tear it again?

"Athletes who do return to their preinjury levels are at higher risk for a second ACL injury, compared to those who do not return or have no history of ACL injury."

Where'd you read that? I feel like the way healthcare is these days some of these rebuilt ACLs may end up being stronger than the real thing but I can also be talking out of my ass.

In either case end of the day knee injuries are more about luck than repaired vs normal ACL. Get bent back a certain way with your foot in the ground and unless it's made of titanium it's likely getting injured.

We just need Jimmy to be smart when he's moving. Think long term. If it's not the SB then live to play another down/game. Though honestly I'd rather see Jimmy running very little.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711084135.htm

"Second ACL injuries six times more likely after reconstruction, study finds"

Good article on successful NFL returns after ACL surgery. https://www.stack.com/a/5-nfl-stars-reveal-how-they-came-back-faster-stronger-and-better-following-acl-surgery

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Have not got too much knowledge about injuries...maybe someone can help me: does a torn acl increase the risk to tear it again?

"Athletes who do return to their preinjury levels are at higher risk for a second ACL injury, compared to those who do not return or have no history of ACL injury."

Where'd you read that? I feel like the way healthcare is these days some of these rebuilt ACLs may end up being stronger than the real thing but I can also be talking out of my ass.

In either case end of the day knee injuries are more about luck than repaired vs normal ACL. Get bent back a certain way with your foot in the ground and unless it's made of titanium it's likely getting injured.

We just need Jimmy to be smart when he's moving. Think long term. If it's not the SB then live to play another down/game. Though honestly I'd rather see Jimmy running very little.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711084135.htm

"Second ACL injuries six times more likely after reconstruction, study finds"

6 years ago.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Have not got too much knowledge about injuries...maybe someone can help me: does a torn acl increase the risk to tear it again?

"Athletes who do return to their preinjury levels are at higher risk for a second ACL injury, compared to those who do not return or have no history of ACL injury."

Where'd you read that? I feel like the way healthcare is these days some of these rebuilt ACLs may end up being stronger than the real thing but I can also be talking out of my ass.

In either case end of the day knee injuries are more about luck than repaired vs normal ACL. Get bent back a certain way with your foot in the ground and unless it's made of titanium it's likely getting injured.

We just need Jimmy to be smart when he's moving. Think long term. If it's not the SB then live to play another down/game. Though honestly I'd rather see Jimmy running very little.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711084135.htm

"Second ACL injuries six times more likely after reconstruction, study finds"

6 years ago.

Pretty ancient study

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Good article on successful NFL returns after ACL surgery. https://www.stack.com/a/5-nfl-stars-reveal-how-they-came-back-faster-stronger-and-better-following-acl-surgery

If this guy can stay healthy and produce like he did his first few games here we should be fun to watch. The beginning to the season last year has me worried though.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Have not got too much knowledge about injuries...maybe someone can help me: does a torn acl increase the risk to tear it again?

"Athletes who do return to their preinjury levels are at higher risk for a second ACL injury, compared to those who do not return or have no history of ACL injury."

Where'd you read that? I feel like the way healthcare is these days some of these rebuilt ACLs may end up being stronger than the real thing but I can also be talking out of my ass.

In either case end of the day knee injuries are more about luck than repaired vs normal ACL. Get bent back a certain way with your foot in the ground and unless it's made of titanium it's likely getting injured.

We just need Jimmy to be smart when he's moving. Think long term. If it's not the SB then live to play another down/game. Though honestly I'd rather see Jimmy running very little.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711084135.htm

"Second ACL injuries six times more likely after reconstruction, study finds"

I question these types of studies when it comes to evaluating extreme athletes in the prime of their careers. The study looked at people 10-25 years old, 59 female to 19 male and 47 control people...who knows what female/male ratio.

It also said females were twice as likely to suffer a knee injury on the OTHER knee...how does that make sense?

"Overall, 29.5% of athletes suffered a second ACL injury within 24 months of returning to activity with 20.5% sustaining an opposite leg injury and 9.0% incurring graft re-tear injury on the same leg. A higher proportion of females (23.7%) suffered an opposite leg injury compared to males (10.5%)."

NFL athletes aren't comparable to regular joes, even if they're "athletes" certainly don't compare to females.

Who performed their surgery? Who did their rehab? How did they rehab?

Now if they do a study on NFL players then we're talking.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Have not got too much knowledge about injuries...maybe someone can help me: does a torn acl increase the risk to tear it again?

"Athletes who do return to their preinjury levels are at higher risk for a second ACL injury, compared to those who do not return or have no history of ACL injury."

Where'd you read that? I feel like the way healthcare is these days some of these rebuilt ACLs may end up being stronger than the real thing but I can also be talking out of my ass.

In either case end of the day knee injuries are more about luck than repaired vs normal ACL. Get bent back a certain way with your foot in the ground and unless it's made of titanium it's likely getting injured.

We just need Jimmy to be smart when he's moving. Think long term. If it's not the SB then live to play another down/game. Though honestly I'd rather see Jimmy running very little.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711084135.htm

"Second ACL injuries six times more likely after reconstruction, study finds"

I question these types of studies when it comes to evaluating extreme athletes in the prime of their careers. The study looked at people 10-25 years old, 59 female to 19 male and 47 control people...who knows what female/male ratio.

It also said females were twice as likely to suffer a knee injury on the OTHER knee...how does that make sense?

"Overall, 29.5% of athletes suffered a second ACL injury within 24 months of returning to activity with 20.5% sustaining an opposite leg injury and 9.0% incurring graft re-tear injury on the same leg. A higher proportion of females (23.7%) suffered an opposite leg injury compared to males (10.5%)."

NFL athletes aren't comparable to regular joes, even if they're "athletes" certainly don't compare to females.

Who performed their surgery? Who did their rehab? How did they rehab?

Now if they do a study on NFL players then we're talking.

NFL players suffered 219 ACL injuries between 2010 and 2013. Forty players (18.3%) had a history of previous ACL injury, with 27 (12.3%) retears and 16 (7.3%) tears contralateral to a previous ACL injury. Five players (2.28%) suffered their third ACL tear. Receivers (wide receivers and tight ends) and backs (linebackers, fullbacks, and halfbacks) had significantly greater injury risk than the rest of the NFL players, while perimeter linemen (defensive ends and offensive tackles) had significantly lower injury risk than the rest of the players. Interior linemen (offensive guards, centers, and defensive tackles) had significantly greater injury risk compared with perimeter linemen. ACL injury rates per team games played were 0.050 for grass and 0.053 for turf fields (P > .05).

Conclusion:

In this retrospective epidemiological study of ACL tears in NFL players, retears and ACL tears contralateral to a previously torn ACL constituted a substantial portion (18.3%) of total ACL injuries. The significant majority of ACL injuries in players with a history of previous ACL injury were retears. Skilled offensive players and linebackers had the greatest injury risk, and significantly more ACL tears occurred among interior linemen than perimeter linemen. The month of August had the highest incidence of ACL injuries, probably because of expanded roster sizes at that point in the NFL season.

Having suffered one myself in my 40's, even I came back after a painful rehab and played football again on weekends. It's just a matter of (bad) luck whether you plant, twist and pop. Run straight and don't cut too much is my best advice.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:

Quit hating on our franchise QB, our Jimmy ain't injury prone, just being unlucky was all. GQ has the quickest first step, super strong arm for deep balls, and read defense as well as Brady.

Go Jimmy

Originally posted by genus49:

I question these types of studies when it comes to evaluating extreme athletes in the prime of their careers. The study looked at people 10-25 years old, 59 female to 19 male and 47 control people...who knows what female/male ratio.

It also said females were twice as likely to suffer a knee injury on the OTHER knee...how does that make sense?

"Overall, 29.5% of athletes suffered a second ACL injury within 24 months of returning to activity with 20.5% sustaining an opposite leg injury and 9.0% incurring graft re-tear injury on the same leg. A higher proportion of females (23.7%) suffered an opposite leg injury compared to males (10.5%)."

NFL athletes aren't comparable to regular joes, even if they're "athletes" certainly don't compare to females.

Who performed their surgery? Who did their rehab? How did they rehab?

Now if they do a study on NFL players then we're talking.

Any study utilizing women is kind of worthless when making a comparison to elite male athletes. Women in general have a much higher risk of knee injury and re-injury owing partially to hormonal variation and a less stable pelvic structure.