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Originally posted by BriRichardson:
Get Brady for a one year rental to make it 6 rings and draft Eason as a one year understudy. Brady can still locate his balls in other words he doesn't drill a 3 yard slant in our receiver's earhole. You think Kyle ran the same offense in Atlanta or did he throw the ball downfield with Matty Ice?

Maybe you didn't watch in 2019, but Brady isn't that good anymore. He looked like crap down the stretch.
Originally posted by BriRichardson:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by BriRichardson:
Originally posted by philgardis49:
People are just spoiled by what we had in Montana and Young, so if Jimmy can't produce exactly like them then obviously he has to be trash right (insert sarcasm). But what are we going to do then, trade for a 43 year old Brady who if he gets us a Super Bowl this coming year would probably retire since he got a ring with his hometown team. Then we would have no QB and because of draft position the ones we could get in the draft wouldn't be the best. In my opinion even if you got lucky with a QB in the draft it's at least a 2 year learning process for the system so we probably won't be going to the playoffs for a couple of years unless the defense can carry us but no way do we even sniff a Super Bowl for at least 3 more years.
That's why we draft Eason as our future. He's got a cannon for an arm and throws an absolutely majestic deep ball.

That's not Kyle S's offense he is running.
But obviously your not understanding the basics.

Yea get rid of a franchise QB...
LMAO
Clown posts
Get Brady for a one year rental to make it 6 rings and draft Eason as a one year understudy. Brady can still locate his balls in other words he doesn't drill a 3 yard slant in our receiver's earhole. You think Kyle ran the same offense in Atlanta or did he throw the ball downfield with Matty Ice?

Like I said, nothing but clown posts.
Keep goin dude, I need some good laughs, been a long day.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by BriRichardson:
Get Brady for a one year rental to make it 6 rings and draft Eason as a one year understudy. Brady can still locate his balls in other words he doesn't drill a 3 yard slant in our receiver's earhole. You think Kyle ran the same offense in Atlanta or did he throw the ball downfield with Matty Ice?

Maybe you didn't watch in 2019, but Brady isn't that good anymore. He looked like crap down the stretch.

Yup, TB12 is no longer a great, or even a good QB really. Dudes arm is shot, and he was absolutely awful in the back half of the season and worse in the Pats only playoff game. Shanahan changed his offense to suit his personnel here, and I'd wager that we're going to pass more next year.

Due to Jimmy still basically recovering from his ACL at the start of the season KS went really run heavy. As the season wore on we passed the ball more, until the postseason. I really think that Jimmy will be much better next year. He will work hard to improve over the offseason, and I imagine the SB defeat will motivate him rather than hold him down.
[ Edited by PuckFarag10 on Feb 29, 2020 at 3:07 PM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by genus49:
Which applies how when Gore is acting like Jimmy was going up against a weak passing defense?

I'm well aware why our defense wasn't higher ranked and Jimmy's turnovers are a small part of it considering our defense was #2 during his worst turnover stretch and then dropped when we played tougher teams with our beat up defense.

Fact remains the KC passing defense was good all year and made even better when the officials decide to ignore holding in the secondary.

When you're allowed to hold in the secondary, allowed to hit the QB whether it's helmet to helmet at all...you're going to be able to step your game up even if the talent is inferior to what the 49ers had.

KCs defense was mediocre. They gave up 28+ to any good QB they faced. We put up 20. They got Mathieu and Chris Jones, the rest are nothing more than JAGs.

Defensive stats can be misleading. The Pats weren't a great defense, but stats said they were. Some stats say the 2014 9er defense was good, but it sucked. They should have put up 35+ on that D in the biggest game of their lives, with 2 weeks prep.
Exactly what I've been saying. Spags group was mediocre at best and just LOOKED better because the refs weren't calling anything on them. It was completely inexcusable for a supposed offensive "genius" in KS not toput up 35-40 pts on that D in the biggest game of their lives with two weeks of prep time.
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Originally posted by 9moon:
... the guy went 6 or 7 and 0 when he was first traded here, and everyone called him the savior..

.. the guy was out last year and some called him a softy bust..

... the guy lead us to the Super Bowl in his first full season, with not much experience, and everyone's b***hin already ??

Can we give him 2 more years before giving him his FINAL GRADE??


, come on Moon, that's a stretch. Yes he played great at times, but one could argue that the team made it to the super bowl despite Jimmy. Let's not forget how the defense carried the team at times.
I won't even bring up the Minn and GB playoff games, those games were won by the defense and running game, then Jimmy.

I agree it's not time for his final grade, but the dude better show up and be twice as good or better when Aug rolls around.

Jimmy literally carried and/or threw the game-winning TD in 5 games this season and we won those games specifically because of him lol.
Not sure some of these JG haters even watched him play last season??
The idea of getting Brady for one shot at the SB is crazy. For one thing he would need to take a lot of deferred money since I hear he is looking for $30 mil. Then we have no QB other than a rookie that we magically pick up in the draft. The QBs will go early and we don't have the draft picks to move up. We need to move back and fill other needs. I'm not 100% sold that Jimmy is the guy long term but he definitely deserves another year to see if he can make the leap that we all want to see. He played well enough to earn that. Brady 5 or 6 years ago would have been great but not now.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
JG isn't Wilson-mobile, but he isn't a statue either. He's made countless plays scrambling laterally.

I don't understand why some say we can't get back the Super Bowl again with JG as our quarterback. That makes no sense.

Agreed. It's a stupid comment. Unless we get a tidal wave of injuries or bad luck I think we have every chance of returning to the playoffs this year. Beyond that, it's too early to comment.
No doubt. JG definitely has some issues he needs to clean up but he is clearly trending upward despite the knee injury.
Originally posted by BriRichardson:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by BriRichardson:
Originally posted by philgardis49:
People are just spoiled by what we had in Montana and Young, so if Jimmy can't produce exactly like them then obviously he has to be trash right (insert sarcasm). But what are we going to do then, trade for a 43 year old Brady who if he gets us a Super Bowl this coming year would probably retire since he got a ring with his hometown team. Then we would have no QB and because of draft position the ones we could get in the draft wouldn't be the best. In my opinion even if you got lucky with a QB in the draft it's at least a 2 year learning process for the system so we probably won't be going to the playoffs for a couple of years unless the defense can carry us but no way do we even sniff a Super Bowl for at least 3 more years.
That's why we draft Eason as our future. He's got a cannon for an arm and throws an absolutely majestic deep ball.

That's not Kyle S's offense he is running.
But obviously your not understanding the basics.

Yea get rid of a franchise QB...
LMAO
Clown posts
Get Brady for a one year rental to make it 6 rings and draft Eason as a one year understudy. Brady can still locate his balls in other words he doesn't drill a 3 yard slant in our receiver's earhole. You think Kyle ran the same offense in Atlanta or did he throw the ball downfield with Matty Ice?
Now you're going off the deep end with the crazy talk.
[ Edited by SteveYoung8 on Feb 29, 2020 at 4:36 PM ]
Originally posted by SteveYoung8:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Originally posted by 9moon:
... the guy went 6 or 7 and 0 when he was first traded here, and everyone called him the savior..

.. the guy was out last year and some called him a softy bust..

... the guy lead us to the Super Bowl in his first full season, with not much experience, and everyone's b***hin already ??

Can we give him 2 more years before giving him his FINAL GRADE??


, come on Moon, that's a stretch. Yes he played great at times, but one could argue that the team made it to the super bowl despite Jimmy. Let's not forget how the defense carried the team at times.
I won't even bring up the Minn and GB playoff games, those games were won by the defense and running game, then Jimmy.

I agree it's not time for his final grade, but the dude better show up and be twice as good or better when Aug rolls around.

Jimmy literally carried and/or threw the game-winning TD in 5 games this season and we won those games specifically because of him lol.
Not sure some of these JG haters even watched him play last season??

they really didnt.
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Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by SteveYoung8:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Originally posted by 9moon:
... the guy went 6 or 7 and 0 when he was first traded here, and everyone called him the savior..

.. the guy was out last year and some called him a softy bust..

... the guy lead us to the Super Bowl in his first full season, with not much experience, and everyone's b***hin already ??

Can we give him 2 more years before giving him his FINAL GRADE??


, come on Moon, that's a stretch. Yes he played great at times, but one could argue that the team made it to the super bowl despite Jimmy. Let's not forget how the defense carried the team at times.
I won't even bring up the Minn and GB playoff games, those games were won by the defense and running game, then Jimmy.

I agree it's not time for his final grade, but the dude better show up and be twice as good or better when Aug rolls around.

Jimmy literally carried and/or threw the game-winning TD in 5 games this season and we won those games specifically because of him lol.
Not sure some of these JG haters even watched him play last season??

they really didnt.


We bring in that dude from the XFL yet to compete with Jimmy for the starting spot?
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by 9moon:
we had the game won... I'm not sure why it's hard for everyone to see and admit that..

even Troy Aikman presumed that we will run the ball down their throat... But I do get it, everyone here who LOVES Shanny just wont admit the fact that he blew the game for us...

Everyone's blaming Jimmy not hitting the OPEN receiver on that drive, but I don't recall anyone BLAMING Russell Wilson for throwing that INT in the Super Bowl...

The blame went from the OC to Pete Carroll because the did not run the ball... so, why can't our fans see that it was on SHANNY ??

The Wilson thing was more of a great defensive play/bad play call. For Wilson it was get the look we want, get the snap and let it rip. Butler just read the play and beat the WR to the spot. Great defensive play, and a dumb play to call.

There was no great defense involved for Jimmy. He just flat out missed throws and missed reads. And I do ultimately blame Kyle for blowing this just like you do, but what sucks is that he blew it by putting the ball in Jimmys hands. I really thought that would be the reason we won, but it's why we lost and he does deserve criticism for that.

... which you can also use and say that KC's JONES made a great play by knocking the ball down... again, the bottom line is that Shanny didn't believe the team in the 1st half to get some points on the board and ran the ball, then when we had to run the ball to win the game, he SUDDENLY put the ball on Jimmy's hand who he fully didn't trust??
I'm not sure getting Brady would be the best move or not. Jimmy is a good QB, and it's really hard to get rid of a QB about to be in his prime for Brady who is not in his prime but still better than Jimmy. Honestly I wouldn't be mad if Brady was the QB because he still has enough savvy and league respect to likely win another SB with a loaded roster like the 49ers have. No player or coach would dare say make Tom Brady beat you with his arm on the 49ers like they did with Jimmy. This last SB would have been out of reach for the Chiefs by the time the 4th Quarter came, because with Brady the game would have resembled what Young 49ers did to the Chargers in our last SB win.

The only thing with Brady winning a SB with us and retiring immediately afterwards, is would we be in any position to aquire a talented enough QB to keep the train rolling? Make no mistake if Brady were to win another SB next season on a team other than the Patriots, he would walk away having proved he could do it without Belichick. If that's the 49ers where does that leave us going forward?

Having said that I think we have to stay with Jimmy who is just good enough to keep you in the SB conversation year after year. We can still draft and groom QBs as his backups in the years to come like New England has done despite having the Great Tom Brady at the helm.
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by SteveYoung8:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by Kyzen:
Originally posted by 9moon:
... the guy went 6 or 7 and 0 when he was first traded here, and everyone called him the savior..

.. the guy was out last year and some called him a softy bust..

... the guy lead us to the Super Bowl in his first full season, with not much experience, and everyone's b***hin already ??

Can we give him 2 more years before giving him his FINAL GRADE??


, come on Moon, that's a stretch. Yes he played great at times, but one could argue that the team made it to the super bowl despite Jimmy. Let's not forget how the defense carried the team at times.
I won't even bring up the Minn and GB playoff games, those games were won by the defense and running game, then Jimmy.

I agree it's not time for his final grade, but the dude better show up and be twice as good or better when Aug rolls around.

Jimmy literally carried and/or threw the game-winning TD in 5 games this season and we won those games specifically because of him lol.
Not sure some of these JG haters even watched him play last season??

they really didnt.


We bring in that dude from the XFL yet to compete with Jimmy for the starting spot?

aw, that the best you got?
[ Edited by SkyZer0 on Feb 29, 2020 at 6:54 PM ]
Originally posted by Ark49er:
I'm not sure getting Brady would be the best move or not. Jimmy is a good QB, and it's really hard to get rid of a QB about to be in his prime for Brady who is not in his prime but still better than Jimmy. Honestly I wouldn't be mad if Brady was the QB because he still has enough savvy and league respect to likely win another SB with a loaded roster like the 49ers have. No player or coach would dare say make Tom Brady beat you with his arm on the 49ers like they did with Jimmy. This last SB would have been out of reach for the Chiefs by the time the 4th Quarter came, because with Brady the game would have resembled what Young 49ers did to the Chargers in our last SB win.

The only thing with Brady winning a SB with us and retiring immediately afterwards, is would we be in any position to aquire a talented enough QB to keep the train rolling? Make no mistake if Brady were to win another SB next season on a team other than the Patriots, he would walk away having proved he could do it without Belichick. If that's the 49ers where does that leave us going forward?

Having said that I think we have to stay with Jimmy who is just good enough to keep you in the SB conversation year after year. We can still draft and groom QBs as his backups in the years to come like New England has done despite having the Great Tom Brady at the helm.

Going after Brady would be one of the dumbest moves of all time. Forget Jimmy for a second Brady wants to play until he's 45 and is looking to be guaranteed 2 years minimum. Good luck to the chumps who end up paying him because he's already diminishing and won't get any better. The fact that Bill may let him walk with no backup plan says it all.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Ark49er:
I'm not sure getting Brady would be the best move or not. Jimmy is a good QB, and it's really hard to get rid of a QB about to be in his prime for Brady who is not in his prime but still better than Jimmy. Honestly I wouldn't be mad if Brady was the QB because he still has enough savvy and league respect to likely win another SB with a loaded roster like the 49ers have. No player or coach would dare say make Tom Brady beat you with his arm on the 49ers like they did with Jimmy. This last SB would have been out of reach for the Chiefs by the time the 4th Quarter came, because with Brady the game would have resembled what Young 49ers did to the Chargers in our last SB win.

The only thing with Brady winning a SB with us and retiring immediately afterwards, is would we be in any position to aquire a talented enough QB to keep the train rolling? Make no mistake if Brady were to win another SB next season on a team other than the Patriots, he would walk away having proved he could do it without Belichick. If that's the 49ers where does that leave us going forward?

Having said that I think we have to stay with Jimmy who is just good enough to keep you in the SB conversation year after year. We can still draft and groom QBs as his backups in the years to come like New England has done despite having the Great Tom Brady at the helm.

Going after Brady would be one of the dumbest moves of all time. Forget Jimmy for a second Brady wants to play until he's 45 and is looking to be guaranteed 2 years minimum. Good luck to the chumps who end up paying him because he's already diminishing and won't get any better. The fact that Bill may let him walk with no backup plan says it all.

BB had his backup plan, and his name happens to be Jimmy Garoppolo. Problem is that Brady refuses to retire, Jimmy's rookie contract ends, and the Patriots couldnt pay them both. Therefore Jimmy gets traded to SF and we have our FQB now because of this scenario. Bill wanted Jimmy to replace Brady after his last contract ended but the Kraft's loyalty to TB was strong, so BB sent him here.

There's no possible way we're replacing a QB that is already good, with potential to be elite and is in his prime years. I agree with you, it would be the dumbest thing that ever happened in professional sports to put Brady in over Jimmy. Jimmy will only get better, and as you said, Brady is in full decline with only his name to prop him up now. It certainly isn't his play that's doing it.
[ Edited by PuckFarag10 on Feb 29, 2020 at 8:42 PM ]
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