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Sep 30, 2020 at 2:06 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
That's leadership.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:06 PM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
People complain about the SF OL...go look at that INDY OL for 90% of Luck's career he got killed and the injuries ruined his career. They were a bad team minus Luck

Yah you're right. The Colts were 10-6 his last season and they knew they had to get him better protection if they wanted to advance in the playoffs so they drafted Quenton Nelson. Problem was Luck was already damaged and that was that.

Pretty much....man if he was drafted somewhere else he could have been a HOFer easy.

Fans don't realize how damn important it is for players, especially the QB position in regards to who drafts them.

If Lawrence goes to the Jags or Jets do we honestly expect him to turn those franchises around? He's a great prospect but just one guy.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:23 PM
Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
The worst thing in professional sports is being handcuffed by a mediocre quarterback. If he's awful, it's an easy fix... you get rid of him. But if he's just ok, you end up waiting on him for years to develop. Instead of seeing him for what he is you make countless excuses refusing to see the writing on the wall.

We assume because he's a "pocket passer" that he's intelligent and can read defenses, but he's shown just the opposite. How many games last year did he literally throw the ball up for grabs. You guys talk about his numbers from last year as if they were amazing, they weren't. 27 TDs vs 13 ints is not great, especially when he was surrounded by the best running attack in the NFL, explosive weapons, the best tight end and a play caller who could make anyone successful.

Even Kyle doesn't trust Jimmy. That's why he threw the ball 9 times against the Vikings and it's why he was so scared to call an aggressive game in the super bowl.

Jimmy's "talent" is overrated. He's a one read quarterback with zero pocket presence and mobility, above average arm talent who breaks down mentally when things get tough. Jimmy is basically a slightly lesser version than Andy Dalton.

We need to move on before we waste another could-have-been dynasty.

This is mein fear. He's just good enough to keep us from getting someone great.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:31 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:

just goes to show fans dont know s**t.

overreacting as usual.
[ Edited by SkyZer0 on Sep 30, 2020 at 2:31 PM ]
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:36 PM
Originally posted by Gabberwocky:
This is mein fear. He's just good enough to keep us from getting someone great.

I mean SF already has a great roster and a great coaching staff...if they fall in love with a QB prospect go all in. Think anyone cares that KC gave up 2 1sts a and a 3rd to get PM?
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:38 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean SF already has a great roster and a great coaching staff...if they fall in love with a QB prospect go all in. Think anyone cares that KC gave up 2 1sts a and a 3rd to get PM?

they gave up two 1st round picks?
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:41 PM
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
just goes to show fans dont know s**t.

overreacting as usual.

Yeah Jimmy is QB1 in SF...is he the long term FQB who's contract we restructure or give an extension too? At this point he's got not much in GTD cash, SF isn't committed to him. That could very will change one way or the other after this season.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:42 PM
Originally posted by SD49er:
Catchmaster, your argument disproves your own point. Jimmy does not need to make "spectacular throws" because he competently executes the 2 minute offense when needed. This is is the epitome of "clutch" and one of the reasons Jimmy is worth continuing to invest in. So Jimmy only won on a final drive in a non spectacular manner so we should discount the fact that Jimmy led a game winning drive? Asinine point. Again, nobody is saying Jimmy is perfect. He needs to improve in many areas. But he does many things well. Besides, Mahomes, who would you trade him for? People act like elite QBs grow on trees.

Clutch is when your team needs you in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl and you come through. Choke is when you have an 2.8 passer rating in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl.



People I would trade for Jimmy G:
Mahomes
Rodgers
Wilson
Stafford (in record time too)
Watson
Jackson
Josh Allen
Newton
Carr (6 TDs, 0 INT so far)
Burrow (He's young but already good)


Excluding Brees and Brady only because of age.


I rank Garoppolo about 12-22 among starters.This is just below average to just above average.

Unless his nebulous "potential" becomes something more than talk, we need to be drafting QBs and examining the trade market every season.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:43 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean SF already has a great roster and a great coaching staff...if they fall in love with a QB prospect go all in. Think anyone cares that KC gave up 2 1sts a and a 3rd to get PM?

they gave up two 1st round picks?

2017 1st 2018 1st and 2017 3rd moved up from 27 to 10.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:44 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
There is a big difference in learning from Tom Brady and Alex Smith.

Alex Smith is a really good dude who doesn't mind teaching things to a guy likely to replace him. Tom Brady hates to give up any snaps in blowout wins or even in practice. That's like saying Steve Young became good learning from Joe. Ask Young if sitting behind Montana was so great...

Another thing is Mahomes is clearly an elite talent and QB. He came into the perfect situation with a loaded roster and didn't have to worry about recovering from a torn ACL.

You're comparing one to the other as if sitting behind a vet QB is the only thing that goes into being a certain type of QB.

And once again...nobody says that sitting behind thsoe guys doesn't help at all. But actually playing vs teams who are coming for you is another thing all together.
Game starts > sitting on the bench behind a vet QB in the NFL
Sitting on the bench behind a vet QB in the NFL > playing in college

Let's stop acting like Jimmy has had some raw deal and has been put in poor situations.

He got to learn how to be a professional NFL QB by watching Tom Brady. He was surrounded by some of the best coaching staffs in the league his whole career. He got TIME to learn and not being forced out there. Yes game snaps are the number #1 thing to help a player grow...but a D2 QB from eastern Illinois was not ready to play in the NFL day 1. SO IMO Jimmy has been placed in some of the best scenarios a player can ask for.

Games played when your team is trash and you have a poor HC does not help a young player IMO. Go look at all the young early rd QBs that played on trash teams. Do they all just suck or did they get put in bad situations to begin with?

Jimmy has just about everything you can ask for as a QB. Time to dial it up a notch this yr....if he doesn't he might just be who he is, a good not great QB.

Where did I say Jimmy has had it rough? A comparison to Mahomes was made. You gonna argue that learning from ultra competitive guys like Brady/Montana is the same as a guy like Alex Smith?

And ACL injuries throw curve ball in any career. You made your point know. Not sure why we're still talking about what Jimmy will do if we have to wait for him to do it first.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:44 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
they gave up two 1st round picks?

2017 1st, 2017 3rd, and 2018 1st.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:45 PM
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by NCommand:

just goes to show fans dont know s**t.

overreacting as usual.

I think it just goes to show you that you shouldnt have wasted so much of your energy on the small handful of posters who were saying Jimmy should be replaced. It was obvious to an overwhelming majority of posters that he wasnt losing his job.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:46 PM
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
That's leadership.

What is unspoken is that if he stinks it up Mullens is there waiting. So, if Jimmy wants it to continue to be his team, he needs to not fool around. No more bad Jimmy, ever again. No more Jittery Jimmy ever again.

That is what Nick Mullens being third all time in yards in first nine starts SHOULD do: it should murder bad Jimmy.
Sep 30, 2020 at 2:57 PM
Originally posted by Gabberwocky:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
they gave up two 1st round picks?

2017 1st, 2017 3rd, and 2018 1st.

but they moved up to get him ya? kinda misleading
Sep 30, 2020 at 3:06 PM
Originally posted by genus49:
Where did I say Jimmy has had it rough? A comparison to Mahomes was made. You gonna argue that learning from ultra competitive guys like Brady/Montana is the same as a guy like Alex Smith?

And ACL injuries throw curve ball in any career. You made your point know. Not sure why we're still talking about what Jimmy will do if we have to wait for him to do it first.

Agreed let's see what he does this yr...I hope he dials it up.
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