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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
" When a QB has just taken your team to the super bowl, it takes more than one bad year for a team to move on from that QB.

As for Jimmy's deep strike, he needs WR's he can trust in to play good DB if its a contested catch and he under throws it, or isn't quite where the pass is supposed to be."

Sorry but it doesn't seem like common sense like your statement above is a trait of some of these clowns posting on here.

You have some still butt-hurt over "how the organization treated Alex & Kap.. you have some that "aren't impressed with Jimmys comeback wins because either we were not down enough or his throws weren't "exciting" enough"... and that same dude posts that "jimmy working his way down the field just isn't electric or dynamic enough when he wins games like wilson & mahomes".

My favorite are people posting s**t how jimmy isn't close to Rodgers or wilson or Ryan, etc yet don't quite understand HOW MANY MORE GAMES those players have played over jimmy. That seems to be irrelevant to the conversations.

Yea it's f**kin Barnum and Bailey around here cause the circus is in town with the clowns.

Relax bruh. We all want Jimmy to succeed ( most of us do anyway ). But he has alot of room for Improvement. The fact he still struggles with Deep passes and throwing outside the numbers is still concerning imo.

Where is he struggling with this? In general those passes aren't as easy to make. Our offense doesn't call for a lot of those throws by design and by player talent.

That's because it seems like he doesn't like throwing to the outside? Most of his passes are across the middle, and I doubt that's all by design.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by susweel:
So it looks like Jimmy is still not" "healthy'

correct. if he was healthy enough to practice, he would be.

We hope it's not a lingering Issue.

theres no way for us to know he'll prolly be practicing next week again before the Dolphins
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
" When a QB has just taken your team to the super bowl, it takes more than one bad year for a team to move on from that QB.

As for Jimmy's deep strike, he needs WR's he can trust in to play good DB if its a contested catch and he under throws it, or isn't quite where the pass is supposed to be."

Sorry but it doesn't seem like common sense like your statement above is a trait of some of these clowns posting on here.

You have some still butt-hurt over "how the organization treated Alex & Kap.. you have some that "aren't impressed with Jimmys comeback wins because either we were not down enough or his throws weren't "exciting" enough"... and that same dude posts that "jimmy working his way down the field just isn't electric or dynamic enough when he wins games like wilson & mahomes".

My favorite are people posting s**t how jimmy isn't close to Rodgers or wilson or Ryan, etc yet don't quite understand HOW MANY MORE GAMES those players have played over jimmy. That seems to be irrelevant to the conversations.

Yea it's f**kin Barnum and Bailey around here cause the circus is in town with the clowns.

Relax bruh. We all want Jimmy to succeed ( most of us do anyway ). But he has alot of room for Improvement. The fact he still struggles with Deep passes and throwing outside the numbers is still concerning imo.

Where is he struggling with this? In general those passes aren't as easy to make. Our offense doesn't call for a lot of those throws by design and by player talent.

That's because it seems like he doesn't like throwing to the outside? Most of his passes are across the middle, and I doubt that's all by design.

Think about our personnel though. Who do we have that excels on the outside?

With Aiyuk in the picture I think we'll start seeing more stuff to the outside/deep.
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by susweel:
So it looks like Jimmy is still not" "healthy'

correct. if he was healthy enough to practice, he would be.

We hope it's not a lingering Issue.

theres no way for us to know he'll prolly be practicing next week again before the Dolphins

Hopefully that's the case moving forward.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
" When a QB has just taken your team to the super bowl, it takes more than one bad year for a team to move on from that QB.

As for Jimmy's deep strike, he needs WR's he can trust in to play good DB if its a contested catch and he under throws it, or isn't quite where the pass is supposed to be."

Sorry but it doesn't seem like common sense like your statement above is a trait of some of these clowns posting on here.

You have some still butt-hurt over "how the organization treated Alex & Kap.. you have some that "aren't impressed with Jimmys comeback wins because either we were not down enough or his throws weren't "exciting" enough"... and that same dude posts that "jimmy working his way down the field just isn't electric or dynamic enough when he wins games like wilson & mahomes".

My favorite are people posting s**t how jimmy isn't close to Rodgers or wilson or Ryan, etc yet don't quite understand HOW MANY MORE GAMES those players have played over jimmy. That seems to be irrelevant to the conversations.

Yea it's f**kin Barnum and Bailey around here cause the circus is in town with the clowns.

Relax bruh. We all want Jimmy to succeed ( most of us do anyway ). But he has alot of room for Improvement. The fact he still struggles with Deep passes and throwing outside the numbers is still concerning imo.

Where is he struggling with this? In general those passes aren't as easy to make. Our offense doesn't call for a lot of those throws by design and by player talent.

That's because it seems like he doesn't like throwing to the outside? Most of his passes are across the middle, and I doubt that's all by design.

Think about our personnel though. Who do we have that excels on the outside?

With Aiyuk in the picture I think we'll start seeing more stuff to the outside/deep.

Definitely. A combination of Deebo and Aiyuk should be fun to watch this season.
i think jimmy is fine to play and they are being exra cautious with him. i have no issue with that.
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
" When a QB has just taken your team to the super bowl, it takes more than one bad year for a team to move on from that QB.

As for Jimmy's deep strike, he needs WR's he can trust in to play good DB if its a contested catch and he under throws it, or isn't quite where the pass is supposed to be."

Sorry but it doesn't seem like common sense like your statement above is a trait of some of these clowns posting on here.

You have some still butt-hurt over "how the organization treated Alex & Kap.. you have some that "aren't impressed with Jimmys comeback wins because either we were not down enough or his throws weren't "exciting" enough"... and that same dude posts that "jimmy working his way down the field just isn't electric or dynamic enough when he wins games like wilson & mahomes".

My favorite are people posting s**t how jimmy isn't close to Rodgers or wilson or Ryan, etc yet don't quite understand HOW MANY MORE GAMES those players have played over jimmy. That seems to be irrelevant to the conversations.

Yea it's f**kin Barnum and Bailey around here cause the circus is in town with the clowns.

Relax bruh. We all want Jimmy to succeed ( most of us do anyway ). But he has alot of room for Improvement. The fact he still struggles with Deep passes and throwing outside the numbers is still concerning imo.

Where is he struggling with this? In general those passes aren't as easy to make. Our offense doesn't call for a lot of those throws by design and by player talent.

That's because it seems like he doesn't like throwing to the outside? Most of his passes are across the middle, and I doubt that's all by design.

Think about our personnel though. Who do we have that excels on the outside?

With Aiyuk in the picture I think we'll start seeing more stuff to the outside/deep.

Definitely. A combination of Deebo and Aiyuk should be fun to watch this season.

I'm jacked - can't wait for Jimmy, Kittle, Deebo and Aiyuk to tear a new one on our up coming opponents.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
" When a QB has just taken your team to the super bowl, it takes more than one bad year for a team to move on from that QB.

As for Jimmy's deep strike, he needs WR's he can trust in to play good DB if its a contested catch and he under throws it, or isn't quite where the pass is supposed to be."

Sorry but it doesn't seem like common sense like your statement above is a trait of some of these clowns posting on here.

You have some still butt-hurt over "how the organization treated Alex & Kap.. you have some that "aren't impressed with Jimmys comeback wins because either we were not down enough or his throws weren't "exciting" enough"... and that same dude posts that "jimmy working his way down the field just isn't electric or dynamic enough when he wins games like wilson & mahomes".

My favorite are people posting s**t how jimmy isn't close to Rodgers or wilson or Ryan, etc yet don't quite understand HOW MANY MORE GAMES those players have played over jimmy. That seems to be irrelevant to the conversations.

Yea it's f**kin Barnum and Bailey around here cause the circus is in town with the clowns.

Relax bruh. We all want Jimmy to succeed ( most of us do anyway ). But he has alot of room for Improvement. The fact he still struggles with Deep passes and throwing outside the numbers is still concerning imo.

Where is he struggling with this? In general those passes aren't as easy to make. Our offense doesn't call for a lot of those throws by design and by player talent.

That's because it seems like he doesn't like throwing to the outside? Most of his passes are across the middle, and I doubt that's all by design.

Think about our personnel though. Who do we have that excels on the outside?

With Aiyuk in the picture I think we'll start seeing more stuff to the outside/deep.

Definitely. A combination of Deebo and Aiyuk should be fun to watch this season.

I'm jacked - can't wait for Jimmy, Kittle, Deebo and Aiyuk to tear a new one on our up coming opponents.

Same here...just so badly wish we still had Nick Bosa to wreck s**t on defense :(

I miss seeing him out there. Bums me out we can't see Bosa, Kinlaw, Armstead/Jones, Ford unit with a lead out there.
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Looks like Jimmy isn't going to be playing Sunday as he was not at practice today for the Niners.
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
I get what you're saying. I hope you're not disappointed they looked into Brady. To me, doing so doesn't represent a lack of faith in Garoppolo. It's just having a conversation with one of the all-time greats (if not THE - tough for me in watching Montana all those years) when someone like Brady becomes available and again, this team's particular situation right now.

Back to my reply here, I'll stand by it. The fact that the Niners are always looking to upgrade at positions, always looking to get better, is something that excites me as a fan of the team. I'm hoping, going forward, that Garoppolo continues to improve and will show throughout this year that he continues to be the guy at QB and they don't need to upgrade the position. I think he'll prove that and looking forward to seeing it play out on the field.

What we maybe can agree on right now: With the way Mullens can step in and perform in this offense as a backup QB, the Niners have one of the top QB situations in the NFL. It goes without saying that Mullens has to keep it up if he's called upon again vs. the Eagles. I like what he's shown so far along with the feedback you hear from his teammates about him, his command of the offense and in the huddle, etc.

I'm looking forward to Garoppolo returning soon but in the meantime, hoping Mullens can keep it up.

Gotcha, no I wasn't disappointed about looking into Brady BUT it absolutely shows some sort of lack of confidence in Jimmy IMO. IF he's suppose to be out FQB you don't do that...he's on a team controlled contract and is only 28. It's not like Brady is some LT answer anyway. Is what it is.

I wouldn't say we have one of the top QB situations in the NFL, I'd say we have great depth. Neither guy is elite. I agree with everything else. I hope he can prove he's getting better...he's got the rest of the season to do it.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Oct 2, 2020 at 12:37 PM ]
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i think jimmy is fine to play and they are being exra cautious with him. i have no issue with that.

I think so too, I think if this were the playoffs he'd be out there. Smart, against a defensive line like the Eagles have
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i think jimmy is fine to play and they are being exra cautious with him. i have no issue with that.

I think so too, I think if this were the playoffs he'd be out there. Smart, against a defensive line like the Eagles have

I would have been surprised (disappointed?) if he was back out today. High ankle sprains often take 4-6 weeks to heal, even then they can still be a bother. With the Eagles and Dolphins next in line, there is no reason to rush Jimmy, or anyone else, to come back right now. Maybe give him some snaps in the Miami game to shake off some rust before the Rams but for now, pump the brakes.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
I get what you're saying. I hope you're not disappointed they looked into Brady. To me, doing so doesn't represent a lack of faith in Garoppolo. It's just having a conversation with one of the all-time greats (if not THE - tough for me in watching Montana all those years) when someone like Brady becomes available and again, this team's particular situation right now.

Back to my reply here, I'll stand by it. The fact that the Niners are always looking to upgrade at positions, always looking to get better, is something that excites me as a fan of the team. I'm hoping, going forward, that Garoppolo continues to improve and will show throughout this year that he continues to be the guy at QB and they don't need to upgrade the position. I think he'll prove that and looking forward to seeing it play out on the field.

What we maybe can agree on right now: With the way Mullens can step in and perform in this offense as a backup QB, the Niners have one of the top QB situations in the NFL. It goes without saying that Mullens has to keep it up if he's called upon again vs. the Eagles. I like what he's shown so far along with the feedback you hear from his teammates about him, his command of the offense and in the huddle, etc.

I'm looking forward to Garoppolo returning soon but in the meantime, hoping Mullens can keep it up.

Gotcha, no I wasn't disappointed about looking into Brady BUT it absolutely shows some sort of lack in Jimmy IMO. IF he's suppose to be out FQB you don't do that...he's on a team controlled contract and is only 28. It's not like Brady is some LT answer anyway. Is what it is.

I wouldn't say we have one of the top QB situations in the NFL, I'd say we have great depth. Neither guy is elite. I agree with everything else. I hope he can prove he's getting better...he's got the rest of the season to do it.

It's an interesting question that for me requires more thought. If QB1 on just about any team goes down, who has a better QB2 that can step in and run that team's particular scheme as well and as effectively as Mullens can run this scheme? Without a lot of drop off, without coaches having to scale down/simplify gameplans for QB2...

Sure, neither of the Niners' QBs are elite at this point, but when you take them together as a group and what they can do when called upon to keep the Niners offense effective, which other QB groups in the league are more effective?

Here are some QB groups where QB1 is elite: Mahomes/Henne...Wilson/Geno Smith...Brees/Hill...

The Niners may not have the top QB situation because of how good some of these elite guys are but I'd say right now they're Top 10 at least.
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
It's an interesting question that for me requires more thought. If QB1 on just about any team goes down, who has a better QB2 that can step in and run that team's particular scheme as well and as effectively as Mullens can run this scheme? Without a lot of drop off, without coaches having to scale down/simplify gameplans for QB2...

Sure, neither of the Niners' QBs are elite at this point, but when you take them together as a group and what they can do when called upon to keep the Niners offense effective, which other QB groups in the league are more effective?

Here are some QB groups where QB1 is elite: Mahomes/Henne...Wilson/Geno Smith...Brees/Hill...

The Niners may not have the top QB situation because of how good some of these elite guys are but I'd say right now they're Top 10 at least.

There's not a ton of drop off because the QB1 isn't really that special...I mean you're gonna expect massive drop off when you go from Rogers/Wilson/Dak/Mahomes/Ryan etc regardless of who the backup is. It's because their QB1 is elite, not necessarily because the backup is really good or bad IMO.

We have a good not great QB situation IMO....maybe (hopefully) Jimmy can make SF have a great QB situation. He's got the rest of 2020 to work on it and if not I won't be shocked if we add another QB (higher draft pick) that can actually make for real competition and create a plan long-term. I mean I'd much rather Jimmy ball out and prove he's the LT answer.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
It's an interesting question that for me requires more thought. If QB1 on just about any team goes down, who has a better QB2 that can step in and run that team's particular scheme as well and as effectively as Mullens can run this scheme? Without a lot of drop off, without coaches having to scale down/simplify gameplans for QB2...

Sure, neither of the Niners' QBs are elite at this point, but when you take them together as a group and what they can do when called upon to keep the Niners offense effective, which other QB groups in the league are more effective?

Here are some QB groups where QB1 is elite: Mahomes/Henne...Wilson/Geno Smith...Brees/Hill...

The Niners may not have the top QB situation because of how good some of these elite guys are but I'd say right now they're Top 10 at least.

There's not a ton of drop off because the QB1 isn't really that special...I mean you're gonna expect massive drop off when you go from Rogers/Wilson/Dak/Mahomes/Ryan etc regardless of who the backup is. It's because their QB1 is elite, not necessarily because the backup is really good or bad IMO.

We have a good not great QB situation IMO....maybe (hopefully) Jimmy can make SF have a great QB situation. He's got the rest of 2020 to work on it and if not I won't be shocked if we add another QB (higher draft pick) that can actually make for real competition and create a plan long-term. I mean I'd much rather Jimmy ball out and prove he's the LT answer.

And there it is - the first part of your reply. I disagree. I think Garoppolo is pretty special (again, not elite at this point) from what he's showed in his 31 total NFL starts in helping his teams win 24 of those games. You don't feel the same. I feel he's going to continue to improve and get better. You don't. Just gotta agree to disagree, and I look forward to seeing him show his abilities & improving when he's back on the field this season and in future seasons for this team. I hope I'm right about him. I just know I really like what I've seen from him in his first 31 starts in this league.

Enough talk - moving on and looking forward to seeing it play out on the field.
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