Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by dald1:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by GNS1310:

SIT HIM until the OL is fixed
I could give a crap about this year, tank for Saquon...fix this OL...and lets GO GET IT next year!

I agree with this.

So we'll just wait 2 years until we have a good o line lol

We could sign a guard in FA and draft another in the 2nd or 3rd. Not sure how Garnett will turnnout. I don't think we're drafting an RB high in this system, but a stud WR could be in the making.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Everyone loves ShanaLynch again!

Who don't love a lil shANAL

Originally posted by Polkadots:
Based on what? Because no QBs found in the draft turn out to be successful? Your statement makes no sense. It also assumes that's where the 49ers would have drafted a QB. If the college QBs are as bad as they look, all of those guys may drop, significantly.

It speeds up our development by at-least 1 year. I have a hard time seeing a Jimmy type start 0-8 next season. Rookies are expected to struggle

Originally posted by Polkadots:
That assumes that was going to happen.

But in addition, so many here saying he is a FQB. But, he wasn't a FQB in NE? BB et. al. did not see him that way so I am curious why so many are sure he is a FQB when one of the best coaches in NFL history clearly did not see him in that light.

I don't think it's that clear cut. He was in the last year of his deal. Brady shows no signs of wanting to retire (he wants to play another 5 years) or slowing down production wise. I think it's a fair bet Jimmy G wants to play - he wasn't going to get that at the Pats. The Pats wanted to get something for him before he left via Free Agency.

Waiting for Cousins was a huge risk. There was a good chance he wouldn't sign here for a variety of reasons. We might have gotten him, but if you think JG could be the guy and the opportunity presents itself you have to take it. Maybe getting Rosen or waiting for Cousins or seeing if Beathard could be the guy all risk this opportunity passing us by.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NC49er:
Thank you for not breaking the bank on Cousins, I was not a fan for that move. Agree with others this could be Cassell 2.0 but almost every QB you pick is a calculated risk so at least the front office is firing off shots. Imo, Lynch has done more good for the team in 8-9 months than Baalke did his entire tenure.

Literally the only thing Garoppolo and Cassel have in common is that both played for New England. Cassel never started in college and was a 7th rounder. Garoppolo went in the 2nd round out of a small school and was simply a far better prospect in everyway.

At least try a Kevin Kolb comparison or something, citing Cassel is just plain lazy and you're better than that.

I agree and you can also look at it this way. We got Jimmy... We moved backed 20 spots in round two 2018 depending on how the saints finish and gave up a 3rd last year. I looked at last years draft. Kareem Hunt was the only player I saw that would make a difference now between the pick we gave up and the Bethard pick. Must add again Jimmy was a second round draft pick.... by the Patriots. Are we doubting their front office as well. My guess is that it became clear he wanted to start and was not coming back. They gambled earlier that they could keep him on until Brady retired but it started to become clear they couldn't. Thus they made a move to get something.

I can't remember but weren't the Browns offering their 2nd first round pick for him last year. I think the Patriots overplayed their hand here and took what they could.

My point is we still have a second. Now we don't have the first one but this trade opens up so many different avenues next year where we can build around a QB who can be our guy.

Come on Jimmy G, I thought CJ would be able to put points on the board for us but he fizzled out.

Hopefully the Browns win a game and we draft at #1. We can then trade the pick with them like the Bears and steal some picks lol

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

That assumes that was going to happen.

But in addition, so many here saying he is a FQB. But, he wasn't a FQB in NE? BB et. al. did not see him that way so I am curious why so many are sure he is a FQB when one of the best coaches in NFL history clearly did not see him in that light.

I don't think it's that clear cut. He was in the last year of his deal. Brady shows no signs of wanting to retire (he wants to play another 5 years) or slowing down production wise. I think it's a fair bet Jimmy G wants to play - he wasn't going to get that at the Pats. The Pats wanted to get something for him before he left via Free Agency.

Exactly. JG likely didn't want to be a backup and Brady isn't about to retire. This was a way for the Pats to get something before JG left anyways.

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

That assumes that was going to happen.

But in addition, so many here saying he is a FQB. But, he wasn't a FQB in NE? BB et. al. did not see him that way so I am curious why so many are sure he is a FQB when one of the best coaches in NFL history clearly did not see him in that light.

I don't think it's that clear cut. He was in the last year of his deal. Brady shows no signs of wanting to retire (he wants to play another 5 years) or slowing down production wise. I think it's a fair bet Jimmy G wants to play - he wasn't going to get that at the Pats. The Pats wanted to get something for him before he left via Free Agency.

Exactly this. They just got a high 2nd round pick for a guy that was walking at the end of the year.

Originally posted by Lipstickonface:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Based on what? Because no QBs found in the draft turn out to be successful? Your statement makes no sense. It also assumes that's where the 49ers would have drafted a QB. If the college QBs are as bad as they look, all of those guys may drop, significantly.

It speeds up our development by at-least 1 year. I have a hard time seeing a Jimmy type start 0-8 next season. Rookies are expected to struggle

Exactly the thought with the cap room and get a few OL a CB maybe a Pass Rusher we will be 8-8 maybe 10-6 next year

Originally posted by KiwiM:

Originally posted by Polkadots:
That assumes that was going to happen.

But in addition, so many here saying he is a FQB. But, he wasn't a FQB in NE? BB et. al. did not see him that way so I am curious why so many are sure he is a FQB when one of the best coaches in NFL history clearly did not see him in that light.

I don't think it's that clear cut. He was in the last year of his deal. Brady shows no signs of wanting to retire (he wants to play another 5 years) or slowing down production wise. I think it's a fair bet Jimmy G wants to play - he wasn't going to get that at the Pats. The Pats wanted to get something for him before he left via Free Agency.

Then why not do something last off season in the hopes of landing a rookie QB in the draft? I mean, learning behind TB for a year (or five) would be great for a rookie, no?

Originally posted by Lipstickonface:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Based on what? Because no QBs found in the draft turn out to be successful? Your statement makes no sense. It also assumes that's where the 49ers would have drafted a QB. If the college QBs are as bad as they look, all of those guys may drop, significantly.

It speeds up our development by at-least 1 year. I have a hard time seeing a Jimmy type start 0-8 next season. Rookies are expected to struggle

Jimmy has some weapons to throw to in kittle and taylor.

Originally posted by dwett:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NC49er:

Thank you for not breaking the bank on Cousins, I was not a fan for that move. Agree with others this could be Cassell 2.0 but almost every QB you pick is a calculated risk so at least the front office is firing off shots. Imo, Lynch has done more good for the team in 8-9 months than Baalke did his entire tenure.

Literally the only thing Garoppolo and Cassel have in common is that both played for New England. Cassel never started in college and was a 7th rounder. Garoppolo went in the 2nd round out of a small school and was simply a far better prospect in everyway.

At least try a Kevin Kolb comparison or something, citing Cassel is just plain lazy and you're better than that.

I agree and you can also look at it this way. We got Jimmy... We moved backed 20 spots in round two 2018 depending on how the saints finish and gave up a 3rd last year. I looked at last years draft. Kareem Hunt was the only player I saw that would make a difference now between the pick we gave up and the Bethard pick. Must add again Jimmy was a second round draft pick.... by the Patriots. Are we doubting their front office as well. My guess is that it became clear he wanted to start and was not coming back. They gambled earlier that they could keep him on until Brady retired but it started to become clear they couldn't. Thus they made a move to get something.

I can't remember but weren't the Browns offering their 2nd first round pick for him last year. I think the Patriots overplayed their hand here and took what they could.

My point is we still have a second. Now we don't have the first one but this trade opens up so many different avenues next year where we can build around a QB who can be our guy.

But if we had that extra 2nd round pick we could've gotten an impact player.


Like that backup QB in New England who has looked like a stud every chance he's gotten to play.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by jrouter4949:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by hummbabybear:
He's a UFA after this season so wonder if that means he signs a contract also

Doubt we made this trade without already being in talks with his agent

You bet,otherwise it makes no sense,that`s a high draft pick 2nd round...YEAH!

All his agent would say is "sure we will". At best it is a verbal contract. If JG lights it up, the 49ers will pay out the ass. It's simply logical. JG has all the leverage in this situation. ALL OF IT

we still have a lot of cash to load everything up front and wont hurt us later

Don't understand why people keep saying this. $50 million up front counts the same against our cap 3 years from now as $50 million spread over those 3 years because the NFL allows you to roll over your cap space. If we give a QB a huge deal and he busts, it will significantly impact our cap space whether the money is up front or spread out over the life of the deal.

I'll be happy if we sign Garapollo for between $18-20 million/year. He has all the leverage as an unrestricted free agent and if he plays well over the remaining 8 games of this season, he could get paid a lot more than that.

I thought Guaranteed money (dead cap) can paid more in the first year. its doesn't have to be spread out or spread out evenly ?