Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Except I don't buy that its a performance or mental issue. He didn't just completely fall off a cliff in a few months time. I think like any player he still wants to be out there and he wants to be playing and Shanahan knows that the path forward with Mullens and Beathard is a path to a heavily losing season so he keeps trying to make it happen and work around any issues Garoppolo might be experiencing but he needs to sit and he needs to sit for at least the next month, see what he looks like at that time because right now he just appears to be laboring just moving around in the pocket.

He used to be a flat out stud. How long does it take for the knee to heal. Absolutely he has no acceleration or zig zag. Maybe it will come back next year.

good stuff man, keep it coming.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by FranchisePoster:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Here's the plan:
1. Cut ties with Jimmy in the offseason, freeing up cap space
2. Sign Rodgers on a team friendly deal cause "he always wanted to be a niner"
3. Draft BYU kid and have him sit behind Rodgers and develop
4. ???
5. Profit

You have to trade for Rodgers before we can sign Rodgers lol.
It would probably include the 1st rounder you used to draft the BYU kid , but #5 is right on. We would still profit.

Rodgers is the only Vet I would trade our next year's 1st

Yeah, Rodgers is definitely a better option even at his age then another two years of Garoppolo.

What happens to Rodgers when the opposition pass rushers break threw our oline and Rodgers gets smashed up time and time again? Maybe there is another reason for why things happen?

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
good stuff man, keep it coming.

no its true. check out pre-knee highlights. he flashed.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by FranchisePoster:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Here's the plan:
1. Cut ties with Jimmy in the offseason, freeing up cap space
2. Sign Rodgers on a team friendly deal cause "he always wanted to be a niner"
3. Draft BYU kid and have him sit behind Rodgers and develop
4. ???
5. Profit

You have to trade for Rodgers before we can sign Rodgers lol.
It would probably include the 1st rounder you used to draft the BYU kid , but #5 is right on. We would still profit.

Rodgers is the only Vet I would trade our next year's 1st

Yeah, Rodgers is definitely a better option even at his age then another two years of Garoppolo.

What happens to Rodgers when the opposition pass rushers break threw our oline and Rodgers gets smashed up time and time again? Maybe there is another reason for why things happen?

We saw what happened when we annihilated the Pack twice last year.

Any QB can be made to look ordinary.

Jimmy's issues go much deeper than OLine though, and IMO those issues aren't getting fixed here.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
We saw what happened when we annihilated the Pack twice last year.

Any QB can be made to look ordinary.

Jimmy's issues go much deeper than OLine though, and IMO those issues aren't getting fixed here.

even when he completes passes he stares down his first option all the time. He's a pick waiting to happen.

Originally posted by FranchisePoster:

I see a big parallel between Jimmy and Kap.

Both a on their way to stardom, both got big fat contracts, lose the super bowl barely and then were never the same.

You just identified the recurring nightmare aspect of the Shanahan era.

Jimmy G came in directly from NE in 2017 and basically winged it. He didn't know the offense that well and he was unfazed and fearless. I don't know what happened, but maybe he was inspired and better prepared in NE than here but he know looks lost out there. Blitzes spook him and he can't call the pass protections with any proficiency. Maybe, this offense is not for him. Kyle dumbs down the passing game for Jimmy and it was never more clearer than on yesterday. Seattle is not good on defense and EVERY team they played this season other than SF totally shredded them, except Jimmy G. We all know Nick is not starter material, but he made mince meat out of Seattle's defense. If he is capable of reading blitzes and calling protections, why can't Jimmy? It seems like something basic a starting QB should be able to do. I think Jimmy has played his way out of SF after yesterdays game. Where they go from here, I don't know but Jimmy holds the offense back man, lots of gadget running plays and stuff, not gonna cut it this year!

Blaine Gabbert 2.0 now.

Originally posted by FaTaL:

Originally posted by kazak13:
Jimmy looks lost and confused. doesnt make those fast throws. looking at Mullens last night (vs Sea) I could tell the difference right away. Nick threw the ball much faster and was processing the plays at a faster rate.

They weren't blitzing at that point

Well, why don't Kyle start of the games in in a no huddle since the plays are scripted to give Jimmy more confidence and to tire out the defense. Yesterdays game with Mullens starting would have put the Niners up by two scores easily. If Prescott or Ryan was the QB this year even with the injuries, the Niners would probably be undefeated or at least have maybe 1 loss (Dolphins) that's on Shanahan with the Brian Allen fiasco. Jimmy is just NOT the QB we all envisioned him being. This team most likely will be resetting due to salaries next season anyways, let Jimmy walk and use next season to develop a young starter which Kyle can prop up as he did for Jimmy or get a veteran that can pass downfield. Playing Jimmy makes or WRs RBs, and I don't like that. Aiyuk has too much talent for that stuff. Mullens and he shined on yesterday, for the first time the WRs were looking like pro wideouts. When Jimmy's in there the O bogs down man. Time to move on.

Originally posted by kelpie70:

Originally posted by FaTaL:

Originally posted by kazak13:

Jimmy looks lost and confused. doesnt make those fast throws. looking at Mullens last night (vs Sea) I could tell the difference right away. Nick threw the ball much faster and was processing the plays at a faster rate.

They weren't blitzing at that point

Well, why don't Kyle start of the games in in a no huddle since the plays are scripted to give Jimmy more confidence and to tire out the defense. Yesterdays game with Mullens starting would have put the Niners up by two scores easily. If Prescott or Ryan was the QB this year even with the injuries, the Niners would probably be undefeated or at least have maybe 1 loss (Dolphins) that's on Shanahan with the Brian Allen fiasco. Jimmy is just NOT the QB we all envisioned him being. This team most likely will be resetting due to salaries next season anyways, let Jimmy walk and use next season to develop a young starter which Kyle can prop up as he did for Jimmy or get a veteran that can pass downfield. Playing Jimmy makes or WRs RBs, and I don't like that. Aiyuk has too much talent for that stuff. Mullens and he shined on yesterday, for the first time the WRs were looking like pro wideouts. When Jimmy's in there the O bogs down man. Time to move on.

Garoppolo could hardly walk on that ankle and was pulled. He's probably done until week 13. So why bother? He's probably done for the year. Ctrl + Alt + Delete the season before you lose more cornerstones like Kittle and Warner.

Originally posted by mayo49:

I'm all for tanking at this point and drafting a blue chip QB. With Mullens and Beathard possibly playing these remaining games, I don't have much hope of making the playoffs. Cut bait with Jimmy and go in a different direction.

Yes..ive seen enough..we won't take a big hit due to paraag..Jimmy gotta go

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
was he even listed on the injury report as questionable before the game?

come on phoenix. Do you really believe this?

I do think Jimmy limits Kyle's playcalling for sure, but that being said, the playcalling today didn't do him any favors. Lots of terrible calls. The wild cat. The screen to Taylor.

I do, especially looking at some of his performances from last year. I don't buy that he suddenly regressed that much that his entire movement in the pocket just completely fell off. I think the ankle is an issue and will continue to be an issue until they sit down down and stop trying to work around it. Even the playcalling is vastly different with far shorter passing which I think is a direct response to the injury, to minimize him having to step into throws and potentially make it worse. Today Seattle just blew everything up with a series of blitzes and taking advantage of a center that has no business starting in the NFL.

I'd like to see Garoppolo sit for a few weeks and get his ankle right, get fully healthy and see what he looks like in a month. In the meantime, roll Mullens and Beathard out there and if you take the hit and lose a few games, then you take the hit but you give Garoppolo the last few weeks to evaluate him while healthy and see if he's going to fit into the offense going forward.

he did this. and it came back. high ankles can linger. season will basically be lost by then anyway. i dont know much about his contract situation next year, but they definitely have got to look for another guy to push him next season or sit behind him. i think he'll be back next season and will be evaluated fully when 100% as they groom or draft someone else. my best take.

is what it is dudes, our team is soooo banged up. 2020 is a real f**k

IMO with the current QBs we have everything is and will be based around the running game. Teams will stop the run (loading up the box) and take away all the short underneath stuff. At this point just daring our QBs to throw the ball. We as fans are asking our HC to scheme up victories week in and week out at this point. Kyle had a couple dumb calls no doubt BUT when you're forced to scheme up yards that s**t happens.

Just after watching the game, I feel like Seattle blitzed a ton (with both QBs). Jimmy needs to see where it's coming from and adjust protections. That's what a great QB does. We got a freaking FB/RB and a monster TE on the field more than any team in football, blitz pickups shouldn't be a big deal IMO.

Jimmy should have carved up this Seattle D. They didn't have their best CB and no Adams. instead he looked lost out there and that was before he reinjured his ankle or whatever.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Garoppolo played a very efficient last season under a lot of pressure and some of his best moments this season have been under pressure.

So, no, it's not "pretty simple." I know you guys *want* to hear there's an easy, one-person fix but I'm not here to make you feel better https://t.co/NntJJzZckw

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) November 2, 2020

Jimmy was actually pretty bad when pressured last yr.