Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Heed49er:

Jimmy & Tommy have the same agent & TB12 has taken those team-friendly deals from the Patriots for years & also has been to 9 Super Bowls.

Granted, Jimmy hasn't married the world's greatest supermodel to supplement that lost fooseball income.
Maybe it's time to see how much JG has learned from the great Tom Brady

Getting the 14th best QB at the 14th best salary isn't going to make a difference.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

My 78 year old father said this to me today:

"Watching Alex Smith throw the ball makes me truly realize how terrible Jimmy's arm is. Alex's throws look like lasers by comparison."

Alex Smith throws. That is the measuring stick at this point. SMFH.

Might be time to have your father checked out.

Originally posted by NickMullensBDN:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

My 78 year old father said this to me today:

"Watching Alex Smith throw the ball makes me truly realize how terrible Jimmy's arm is. Alex's throws look like lasers by comparison."

Alex Smith throws. That is the measuring stick at this point. SMFH.

Might be time to have your father checked out.

I know right. Completely wrong. Smith is the worst check down qb in the history of the nfl. Throwing to a 3rd down back like McKissick 14 times in a game was hilarious. Jimmy is more accurate and has a stronger arm for sure. Maybe with his high ankle sprain Alex has more "zip" but that's due to injury only

Originally posted by elguapo:
I know right. Completely wrong. Smith is the worst check down qb in the history of the nfl. Throwing to a 3rd down back like McKissick 14 times in a game was hilarious. Jimmy is more accurate and has a stronger arm for sure.

Betting odds will be on Alex tho when they ask which guy will have the more complete career stat sheet when it's all said and done for sure.

Originally posted by elguapo:

I know right. Completely wrong. Smith is the worst check down qb in the history of the nfl. Throwing to a 3rd down back like McKissick 14 times in a game was hilarious. Jimmy is more accurate and has a stronger arm for sure. Maybe with his high ankle sprain Alex has more "zip" but that's due to injury only

He targeted McKissic 30 times in the Giants and Lions games lmfao. It's easy to think Alex is good if you don't watch his games, but when you watch him play it's obvious he could never be the catalyst for a SB run. That's why 2 SB rosters, that probably could have won it with him if everything went perfect, had to give up on carrying him.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He targeted McKissic 30 times in the Giants and Lions games lmfao. It's easy to think Alex is good if you don't watch his games, but when you watch him play it's obvious he could never be the catalyst for a SB run. That's why 2 SB rosters, that probably could have won it with him if everything went perfect, had to give up on carrying him.

I'd say the same about Trent Dilfer. Jimmy was a bad throw away from a Super Bowl ring,...and he'll certainly never be a catalyst for a SB run either. There's alotta middle ground when we're putting all these QBs on the same playing field and trying to judge them evenly.

Jimmy is not more accurate than Alex. He has more cojones, but he is not more accurate. He is LESS accurate. Perhaps one day I will put together an massive reel of his horrible passes that either get caught or injure the intended wr.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

He targeted McKissic 30 times in the Giants and Lions games lmfao. It's easy to think Alex is good if you don't watch his games, but when you watch him play it's obvious he could never be the catalyst for a SB run. That's why 2 SB rosters, that probably could have won it with him if everything went perfect, had to give up on carrying him.

I'd say the same about Trent Dilfer. Jimmy was a bad throw away from a Super Bowl ring,...and he'll certainly never be a catalyst for a SB run either. There's alotta middle ground when we're putting all these QBs on the same playing field and trying to judge them evenly.

For me what separated Jimmy from Alex was his 3rd down conversions. He was able to come through on passing downs at a high rate, something Alex has never been good enough to do.

I agree that without those 3rd down conversions Jimmy really doesn't bring much to the table. Alex surpasses him because Alex at least spams the easy throws and gives you a chance against lower tier teams. I just think if Jimmy can get back to being a 3rd down machine, he can be a bigger contributor to a SB run than a QB like Alex

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

He targeted McKissic 30 times in the Giants and Lions games lmfao. It's easy to think Alex is good if you don't watch his games, but when you watch him play it's obvious he could never be the catalyst for a SB run. That's why 2 SB rosters, that probably could have won it with him if everything went perfect, had to give up on carrying him.

I'd say the same about Trent Dilfer. Jimmy was a bad throw away from a Super Bowl ring,...and he'll certainly never be a catalyst for a SB run either. There's alotta middle ground when we're putting all these QBs on the same playing field and trying to judge them evenly.

For me what separated Jimmy from Alex was his 3rd down conversions. He was able to come through on passing downs at a high rate, something Alex has never been good enough to do.

I agree that without those 3rd down conversions Jimmy really doesn't bring much to the table. Alex surpasses him because Alex at least spams the easy throws and gives you a chance against lower tier teams. I just think if Jimmy can get back to being a 3rd down machine, he can be a bigger contributor to a SB run than a QB like Alex

And now..... crickets! Lol
Dude throws Trent dilfer in this convo?? Wtf does dilfer have to do with this convo??
Oh yea they all three are or have been QB's.
Great comparison!
👍

Jimmy's never been any kind of "machine." The only machine there's truly been in our passing game the past several years is this play calling guy named Kyle Shanahan.

Referring to Jimmy as some independent stud at any point in his career is simply a mischaracterization. It makes us feel good about a past that never really happened here.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

And now..... crickets! Lol
Dude throws Trent dilfer in this convo?? Wtf does dilfer have to do with this convo??
Oh yea they all three are or have been QB's.
Great comparison!
👍

You don't have to be a "catalyst" as a QB to reach - or even WIN - a Super Bowl in the NFL.

What does Dilfer have to do with that? He's a shining example of that reality.

Crickets as usual right, Jeepy? You will drop in for a sec... But you won't give meaningful replies [to my posts] that go anywhere. If you do in this thread,... It'll be the 1st.

If we are looking at both of of their careers and Alex cant be a catalyst for a Super Bowl run then hell,.... Jimmy certainly can't either.

Our defense and running game carrying us to a SB birth doesn't suddenly catapult Jimmy passed other QBs all of a sudden, career-wise.

Let's be real.

Originally posted by random49er:

Jimmy's never been any kind of "machine." The only machine there's truly been in our passing game the past several years is this play calling guy named Kyle Shanahan.

Referring to Jimmy as some independent stud at any point in his career is simply a mischaracterization. It makes us feel good about a past that never really happened here.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

And now..... crickets! Lol
Dude throws Trent dilfer in this convo?? Wtf does dilfer have to do with this convo??
Oh yea they all three are or have been QB's.
Great comparison!
👍

You don't have to be a "catalyst" as a QB to reach - or even WIN - a Super Bowl in the NFL.

What does Dilfer have to do with that? He's a shining example of that reality.

Crickets as usual right, Jeepy? You will drop in for a sec... But you won't give meaningful replies [to my posts] that go anywhere. If you do in this thread,... It'll be the 1st.

If we are looking at both of of their careers and Alex cant be a catalyst for a Super Bowl run then hell,.... Jimmy certainly can't either.

Our defense and running game carrying us to a SB birth doesn't suddenly catapult Jimmy passed other QBs all of a sudden, career-wise.

Let's be real.

Clown,
3rd down conversions...
That was the specific point..
AND AGAIN, nothing on that from you..
Lol
You don't discuss specific points, you throw in a bunch of random s**t, ie: dilfer, without touching on the point that was being discussed. Then you ramble on about pointless s**t for another 4-6 paragraphs acting like the smartest on the room while coming off as the dumbest..
So what's there to discuss with you? The Five to six other random things you throw in?? Nah..
But you enjoy your day..

So his ankle has been sprained since week two?

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Clown,

He name calls and curses,...yet I'm the one that gets all the warnings here, right mods? Amazing.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
3rd down conversions...

That was the specific point..

Yeah and I tossed it right into the trash, and no, it was not the specific point. It was used as a supporting detail referencing when his play was much better, and how it translated to him being a better QB than say, Alex Smith. THAT was the specific point.

But on isolated stats,...well....Seth Curry has a higher career 3-pt percentage than the guy known as the greatest 3 point shooter ever,...his brother.

I guess that puts him in the same room as Steph player-wise, right? Let's just send him an MVP trophy right now.

Stupid thing to say right? Of course.

And hell, that stat encompasses their entire careers, not 1 stat from 1 year of a player like we're doing here.

What does f**n basketball have to do with it tho??

Simple Jeepy. I use examples to make points. The current one is that that trying to use one isolated stat never tells the entire tale!!

Look 100's of pages back. We have already taken that same isolated stat, put it on the same table with the rest of his stats for that year, and came away fairly unimpressed.

We don't want to talk about how he was 31st or 32nd in the league that year in passes 20+ yards down the field, for example, because it takes away from the the fairy tale of this great QB play that "led" us to a Super Bowl. It was better than adequate play that played a part in us getting to 13-3, if we're going to be honest.

If his play was truly great he wouldn't've been hidden by Shanahan for much of the playoff run and better prepared for KC come the 4th quarter. I clearly watched that 1st playoff game where he was clearly off in some of his play, only to see the ball taken out of his hand for the most part the rest of the way. Let's not pretend like it didn't happen. It did.

With all the analytics they have on QB play,....if you ever have to rely on 1 stat to make your case, you know it's a pretty weak one.

I know I talk a lot of s**t about Jimmy, but it would be nice if he can get back out there. The other two QBs are nonfunctional

Let's get to .500.