Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Like? And how far have they gone? Like we see with Seattle every single year, it usually catches up to you and you can only go so far.
Houston, Seattle, Ravens, Carolina, etc.
I agree the landscape is changing and we're going to see a few more this year: Bills, Miami, Cleveland and Arizona in the mix too.
Is this the formula for winning a Superbowl though? That's our goal.
You still have the traditional formulas still in the hunt: KC, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, SF, Rams, MN, WA, LV, TN, IND, Pitt, etc.
The formula for winning over the past couple yrs (outside of NE) has been having a young QB on a rookie contract and building around him. You also need a top end coaching staff.
Again plenty of QBs making plays week in week out without having elite lineman across the OL.
I'm not saying don't upgrade the OL... never have said that. I'm saying you don't have to spend a billion dollars on IOL help. You don't have burn a top 32 pick on guard. That's been my debate with you for yrs now.
If Jimmy is the long-term FQB like some in here are proclaiming. Sign him to an extension to lower the cap next yr. If he was the man, it would be a no brainer....a lot of push back on that scenario in here even among the Jimmy fans. If he's not the future then go get the guy you think WILL be....go sign a vet on the interior with that freed up cash. Resign the guys you want here long-term. Rookie QBs are doing their thing in the NFL now, especially with the right roster & coaching staff.
That seems like a stretch to act like the secret sauce is having a rookie QB on his first contract.
In the last 10 years the only teams who had a QB on his rookie contract who started in the SB for them were
Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson and Joe Flacco
I'd say two of those guys are elite level QBs so you can make an equal point saying find yourself an elite QB and you'll win SBs or play the 49ers in the SB with a rookie QB :(
Brady x 3 - not a rookie
Manning - his retirement season
Eli Manning - not a rookie
Aaron Rodgers - not a rookie
Brees - not a rookie
If you can find a QB like Mahomes or Wilson while having the elite level units both of those guys had around them while they were on those rookie contracts then yeah...that's fantastic.
But that's definitely a stretch that the contract is the key factor. It's only a factor if you have your key players up for contracts. For instance last year Jimmy's contract wasn't an issue because our key guys weren't up for new deals.
And once again the reason people aren't saying sign Garoppolo to long term deal is because he's been injured on his last deal more often than he's been healthy.
