Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Lol Love you Gore!!
only dude to man up and admit that his hate for jimmy is personal.
👍

Do you really think true fans hate Jimmy? Dude wins games when he can play. Had we not drafted Trey, the entire narrative this offseason would be fans hoping he could make it through the season. Fact is we did draft Trey, who should bring a lot more to the table, including a dimension Jimmy will never possess, which will likely improve the offense exponentially. That is why so many want Trey to start sooner than later, not because they hate Jimmy.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Are you really trying to compare regular jobs to the NFL?

Right if I already made $80M and didn't really earn that cash and someone just spent a butt load to replace me…I would expect my company to ask me to take a pay cut….I wouldn't be like wait is it worth while for me to take a pay cut lol. I would say thank you sir for still getting a f**k ton of cash, the opportunity to do my job so everyone else can see if I can still do it, and the ability to CHOOSE my new job.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what? i'm sure you would be excited to possibly work two years and earn only 1 years pay of what you used to make

like your Foles comparison, you don;t know if you're going to make as much or more as your current contract, i guess that would be more reason to accept less pay ?

i would do it if i can get some guranteed money in 2022 and some but not a lot in 2023

I wouldn't be excited if the other option was we were gonna cut you because you were gonna be "the man" all yr.

lol GTD money in next yr, he literally doesn't have leverage in this situation in mid July. His services aren't exactly on high demand, if they were he would have been moved.

he has leverage if they want him to take a pay cut which he doesn't need to do. if his services aren't exactly needed, he wouldn't be on the team right now also. Just saying we haven't moved him, doesn't mean there wasn't any interest. There were Patriot rumors flying around. but it would be a terrible move to put yourself in a spot with no QB depth again. but we digress from the paycut talk.

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Do you really think true fans hate Jimmy? Dude wins games when he can play. Had we not drafted Trey, the entire narrative this offseason would be fans hoping he could make it through the season. Fact is we did draft Trey, who should bring a lot more to the table, including a dimension Jimmy will never possess, which will likely improve the offense exponentially. That is why so many want Trey to start sooner than later, not because they hate Jimmy.

People can't put their bias fanhood to the side and look at things objectively…if you're not all in on Jimmy that means you hate him There's no gray area with him at all apparently

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Good post and completely agree.

Looking forward to seeing this team's QB arsenal going into the pre and regular season. Glad it's such a better group this year as, you know, it kind of is the most important position in all of sports!

I'm looking forward to preseason in Large part to see our QB depth

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Do you really think true fans hate Jimmy? Dude wins games when he can play. Had we not drafted Trey, the entire narrative this offseason would be fans hoping he could make it through the season. Fact is we did draft Trey, who should bring a lot more to the table, including a dimension Jimmy will never possess, which will likely improve the offense exponentially. That is why so many want Trey to start sooner than later, not because they hate Jimmy.

People can't put their bias fanhood to the side and look at things objectively…if you're not all in on Jimmy that means you hate him There's no gray area with him at all apparently

People are going to say what ever - just go for what you believe and hope it's the right choice for the franchise.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
he has leverage if they want him to take a pay cut which he doesn't need to do. if his services aren't exactly needed, he wouldn't be on the team right now also. Just saying we haven't moved him, doesn't mean there wasn't any interest. There were Patriot rumors flying around. but it would be a terrible move to put yourself in a spot with no QB depth again. but we digress from the paycut talk.

Again they could have waited to see if Lance is ready during TC, they didn't have to do s**t honestly…they don't owe Jimmy anything at this point, He's gotten paid a lot of money for not playing much football.

There were rumors that SF was gonna draft Jones too…means nothing.

again Jimmy would still make more money than any "backup" in the NFL, in fact he would have the 12th highest cap highest cap hit among all QBs in 2021 if they dropped his cap hit to $12M

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2021/

I have no idea why someone would disagree that he shouldn't take a pay cut at this point, especially with his injury history…He's vastly overpaid and doesn't really have a leg to stand on for keeping that salary.

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Lol Love you Gore!!
only dude to man up and admit that his hate for jimmy is personal.
👍

Do you really think true fans hate Jimmy? Dude wins games when he can play. Had we not drafted Trey, the entire narrative this offseason would be fans hoping he could make it through the season. Fact is we did draft Trey, who should bring a lot more to the table, including a dimension Jimmy will never possess, which will likely improve the offense exponentially. That is why so many want Trey to start sooner than later, not because they hate Jimmy.

Posters claiming people hate Jimmy are doing so because they can't logically defend their own opinions and have to use a straw man arguments to sound competent. It forces you to try to defend not being a hater instead of the content and reasoning of your original post. It's really really getting old.

I debated several posters about Trey Lance's ability before the draft and although I thought some of their takes were objectively inaccurate and condescending, I never once reduced their opinions to shear "hate".

I have no problem having an debate or discussion with someone who believes a player is much better or much worse than I do that's trying to be intellectually honest. We're all not all going agree but it's sad to me how few and far between those kind of discussions are happening in this thread.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Posters claiming people hate Jimmy are doing so because they can't logically defend their own opinions and have to use a straw man arguments to sound competent. It forces you to try to defend not being a hater instead of the content and reasoning of your original post. It's really really getting old.

I debated several posters about Trey Lance's ability before the draft and although I thought some of their takes were objectively inaccurate and condescending, I never once reduced their opinions to shear "hate".

I have no problem having an debate or discussion with someone who believes a player is much better or much worse than I do that's trying to be intellectually honest. We're all not all going agree but it's sad to me how few and far between those kind of discussions are happening in this thread.

This is perfect, I couldn't have said it better

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Posters claiming people hate Jimmy are doing so because they can't logically defend their own opinions and have to use a straw man arguments to sound competent. It forces you to try to defend not being a hater instead of the content and reasoning of your original post. It's really really getting old.

I debated several posters about Trey Lance's ability before the draft and although I thought some of their takes were objectively inaccurate and condescending, I never once reduced their opinions to shear "hate".

I have no problem having an debate or discussion with someone who believes a player is much better or much worse than I do that's trying to be intellectually honest. We're all not all going agree but it's sad to me how few and far between those kind of discussions are happening in this thread.

This is perfect, I couldn't have said it better

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Posters claiming people hate Jimmy are doing so because they can't logically defend their own opinions and have to use a straw man arguments to sound competent. It forces you to try to defend not being a hater instead of the content and reasoning of your original post. It's really really getting old.

I debated several posters about Trey Lance's ability before the draft and although I thought some of their takes were objectively inaccurate and condescending, I never once reduced their opinions to shear "hate".

I have no problem having an debate or discussion with someone who believes a player is much better or much worse than I do that's trying to be intellectually honest. We're all not all going agree but it's sad to me how few and far between those kind of discussions are happening in this thread.

This is perfect, I couldn't have said it better

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
he has leverage if they want him to take a pay cut which he doesn't need to do. if his services aren't exactly needed, he wouldn't be on the team right now also. Just saying we haven't moved him, doesn't mean there wasn't any interest. There were Patriot rumors flying around. but it would be a terrible move to put yourself in a spot with no QB depth again. but we digress from the paycut talk.

Again they could have waited to see if Lance is ready during TC, they didn't have to do s**t honestly…they don't owe Jimmy anything at this point, He's gotten paid a lot of money for not playing.

There were rumors that SF was gonna draft Jones too…means nothing.

again Jimmy would still making more money that any "backup" in the NFL in fact he would have the 12th highest cap highest cap hit among all QBs in 2021 if they dropped his cap hit to $12M

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2021/

I have no idea why someone would disagree that he should take a pay cut at this point. He's vastly overpaid

what you are posting is all your feelings above though

• They could have gotten rid of Jimmy but want to see lance (even though you post how he is better than jimmy)
• They don't owe jimmy
• Gotten paid for not playing (fact), Was there a way to know this was how it would end up?
• Rumors (Fact) , but Rumors are both true and false. This doesn't mean if you didn't hear anything, it must be the way i see it.
• While it might be a great being a top paid back up with half cut salary. wouldn't it be better to be a back up at full salary ?
• No one is disagreeing the feeling that he is overpaid and should be paid less. but reality is, there isn't a need for him to take a paycut when he is on the books without having to cut anyone else at the moment

On top of that.. everything that you counter everyone when you see the slightness of positivity, you come quick to rain on everything. Now you going after the man's money

I'm the same way with another player that used to be in the league that also used to be on the 49ers.. but that player is truly awful and i didn't need to say much towards the end as his play did my talking lol

I don't think Jimmy is great, but i think he's good for the psyche of the team right now

but i get it NY.. all good

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Posters claiming people hate Jimmy are doing so because they can't logically defend their own opinions and have to use a straw man arguments to sound competent. It forces you to try to defend not being a hater instead of the content and reasoning of your original post. It's really really getting old.

I debated several posters about Trey Lance's ability before the draft and although I thought some of their takes were objectively inaccurate and condescending, I never once reduced their opinions to shear "hate".

I have no problem having an debate or discussion with someone who believes a player is much better or much worse than I do that's trying to be intellectually honest. We're all not all going agree but it's sad to me how few and far between those kind of discussions are happening in this thread.

Hater

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Again they could have waited to see if Lance is ready during TC, they didn't have to do s**t honestly…they don't owe Jimmy anything at this point, He's gotten paid a lot of money for not playing much football.

There were rumors that SF was gonna draft Jones too…means nothing.

again Jimmy would still make more money than any "backup" in the NFL, in fact he would have the 12th highest cap highest cap hit among all QBs in 2021 if they dropped his cap hit to $12M

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2021/

I have no idea why someone would disagree that he shouldn't take a pay cut at this point, especially with his injury history…He's vastly overpaid and doesn't really have a leg to stand on for keeping that salary.

I just don't see the point from Jimmy's POV. Why should he agree to less money without getting something out of the deal? There's no logic to it.

Also, there are no real reasons why we need the extra money right now. It's not like there are great free agents we could allocate this saved money to.

I totally agree that Jimmy's salary far exceeds his worth, and that will be magnified even more if he is ok the bench. But again, he has no incentive to reduce his salary.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Dude your absolutely crazy.
f**k that.
you think the fans of GB or the Saints or Wilson have a great time getting bounced every year?
Takes a whole team ESPECIALLY DEFENSE.
Most of the SB winners had top defenses.
You all want the rookie salary to be able to add players to be competitive but you all want that FQB. Lol

So true! I can't believe people don't realize that over years of watching football.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Preach brother!
Spittin the truth again just like in the Lance thread..

Thanks Jeep. You're spreading the good word too

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
LMAO
You still trying to dismiss the importance of 3rd down efficiency!!
You constantly trying to argue that 3rd down isn't the money down, totally shows your lack of football IQ.. but carry on

Literally 3rd down IS CALLED the money down by everybody. You hear coaches, players and announcers say it. Hey, denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Anyways, soon enough the niners will be in the playoffs with 2 starting qbs kicking some major ass this year. That we all can agree on