Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
When healthy he's a top 10-15 QB I'd put in in the same category as a Dereck Carr, Tony Romo, Eli Manning, etc. that's more than enough for a team to compete for Super Bowls every year

And kyle and Co. disagree

On the contrary,they don't.

Do you think they spent 3 first round picks on Trey Lance to replace Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard? They don't want Jimmy and it's not just injury related. Teams don't move on from a QB if they believe he's a top 10 QB, even if they have missed 2 of the last 3 seasons.

So why did the Colts move on from Peyton Manning after he missed 1 full season? The Jimmy injuries have been a death sentence to the team every time. I don't blame them for trying to move on, just wish it wasn't Trey Lance

Peyton was 36 at a time where that was considered near the end of a QB's career. Jimmy is 29. It's not the same thing. The Colts didn't give up on Andrew Luck despite his injury problems.

After coming off a very serious neck injury. I don't know how he can even compare those two

And you're spot on about Luck. If Jimmy was an elite talent, we would not have moved on that quickly. Teams stick with great QBs, even if they have some injury problems, and try to build a better OL for them.

Kyle chose to move on from Jimmy.

Colts moved on when they Traded for Brisset ..but let the spin begin !!!

glad you are not taking it seriously as it wasn't meant to be

And you're spot on about Luck. If Jimmy was an elite talent, we would not have moved on that quickly. Teams stick with great QBs, even if they have some injury problems,

was to poke fun at the logic..

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
You refuse to give any credit to Jimmy and only focus at all the negativity. He ain't Aaron Rodgers and we don't need him to be. Jimmy has done wonders for this team whether you want to admit it or not. They went from unwatchable garbage to competitors overnight, and in return the "geniuses" of this fanbase treat him like he's Matt Cassel. You and so many others get sooo defensive about being labeled a hater but when users post horrible takes like, " Noodle arm statue", "trading for him blew up in the teams face", or even posting graphs trying to explain that 3rd downs aren't that important just so they can minimize one of Jimmy's positive traits, what the hell do you expect?. Do you even care if the team wins, or do you just want some "dual threat" QB ESPN will drool over so you can brag about it at family BBQs?

Nah I've given him credit throughout his time here…go look at this thread and you'll find it. I just don't think he's as good as you're pretending him to be.

lMO he's an avg starting QB in the NFL who's made a s**t ton of money, that's not a bad thing for him. Not everyone gets to be a NFL starter let alone a MVP, pro-bowler, not everyone gets to play on a SB roster either. He's been very fortunate.

I'm not gonna get all butthurt and defensive over it to the pt where I'm gonna say stupid s**t like do you even care if we win lol. Quit the crap. Like I said you can't have an objective convo, so you resort to dumb crap like you're a hater or you don't want to win it's so old and stale no one wants to hear it anymore…Jimmy will be moving in within a yr, I respect what he did and how professional he's been…we should expect better from the position though.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Winning all those games in 2019 was awesome.
The team has won and been fun to watch with Jimmy at qb.

Kap won a ton of games too. Goff won a ton of games in LA. Dalton in Cinci. Keenum won in Min. Alex in KC etc

ya'll act like we're moving off of aaron Rogers or some s**t lol. Thank you Jimmy for one magical 2019 season, that was a special team top to bottom and a lot went right. This FO wanted better and were gonna make that happen this off season. On to bigger and better things!

But Jimmy won a lot of games for the 49ers.

I said it was fun, not sure why you say that is like I am acting like we are moving off Aaron Rogers.
I guess you are disagreeing with my assessment of it being fun?

I was all for drafting a high ceiling heir apparent. I have been for that since the draft when they passed on Mahomes and Watson.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

So he would do it to avoid getting cut?

I am not up in arms, I am just saying it would be dumb for him to do it b3csue they aren't going to cut him.

If Lance looks legit in TC (which Jimmy would see this as well) why wouldn't he? Again he has no leverage. None

If they release Jimmy after camp how much would he get paid? If if makes financial sense to JG I could see it.
That would be a ballsy move by Kyle and it would be a sign of Trey being ready which would be awesome.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
So he would do it to avoid getting cut?

I am not up in arms, I am just saying it would be dumb for him to do it b3csue they aren't going to cut him.

If Lance looks legit in TC (which Jimmy would see this as well) why wouldn't he? Again he has no leverage. None

If they release Jimmy after camp how much would he get paid? If if makes financial sense to JG I could see it.
That would be a ballsy move by Kyle and it would be a sign of Trey being ready which would be awesome.

And if Trey gets injured we're right back at square one. We're keeping Jimmy.

Originally posted by K1ngAsD3rek:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
So he would do it to avoid getting cut?

I am not up in arms, I am just saying it would be dumb for him to do it b3csue they aren't going to cut him.

If Lance looks legit in TC (which Jimmy would see this as well) why wouldn't he? Again he has no leverage. None

If they release Jimmy after camp how much would he get paid? If if makes financial sense to JG I could see it.
That would be a ballsy move by Kyle and it would be a sign of Trey being ready which would be awesome.

And if Trey gets injured we're right back at square one. We're keeping Jimmy.

lol right

No matter what you guys think of him, we're all rooting for his best season yet!!

Originally posted by gold49digger:
No matter what you guys think of him, we're all rooting for his best season yet!!

Facts!

Originally posted by elguapo:
Goff, Leading the league over the past two years in turnovers which includes interceptions and fumbles is laughable on such a stacked and loaded offense and great defense. As everyone that knows about football understands, TURNOVERS is the number one determining factor of wins and losses in this league, nothing else is close. Goff was probably the only reason the Rams lost so many games as they did. Where as Jimmy's injuries was probably the biggest determining factor of how the Niners lost their games not his play on the field when healthy. That is the main difference between these two quarterbacks and it's a big one. Let's not pretend that isn't the most important factor in all of football and Goff was the WORST at it. No sugarcoating it, No justifying it, no apologies for it, no spinning it. It's plain as day

Excellent post, elguapo. What you say re: TOs as a main difference between Garoppolo and Goff...100% right on the money and it is a big difference! And for Goff to put up all those TOs up on a loaded offense as you mention...

Originally posted by gold49digger:
No matter what you guys think of him, we're all rooting for his best season yet!!

I'm not so sure about that. That would mean Trey would have to sit all season. And some have stated repeatedly that they are against that.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
No matter what you guys think of him, we're all rooting for his best season yet!!

I'm not so sure about that. That would mean Trey would have to sit all season. And some have stated repeatedly that they are against that.

Some like to take the extreme and think trey will just spoil at QB2

there are many ways to get treys feet wet while backing up jimmy. Also, there has only been 1 high drafted QB that sat the entire year in like the last 20 years. So we got that going for us which is nice

Originally posted by gold49digger:
No matter what you guys think of him, we're all rooting for his best season yet!!

I'm rooting for the team to win the Super Bowl. If Jimmy has the best season of his career along the way, great, but Jimmy could have the best season of his career and still be only middle of pack and the worst QB in the division this season, so it doesn't mean a whole lot on its own.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Some like to take the extreme and think trey will just spoil at QB2

there are many ways to get treys feet wet while backing up jimmy. Also, there has only been 1 high drafted QB that sat the entire year in like the last 20 years. So we got that going for us which is nice

Aaron Rodgers?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Some like to take the extreme and think trey will just spoil at QB2

there are many ways to get treys feet wet while backing up jimmy. Also, there has only been 1 high drafted QB that sat the entire year in like the last 20 years. So we got that going for us which is nice

Aaron Rodgers?

Nope, ARod got on the field his first year, Carson Palmer

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Goff, Leading the league over the past two years in turnovers which includes interceptions and fumbles is laughable on such a stacked and loaded offense and great defense. As everyone that knows about football understands, TURNOVERS is the number one determining factor of wins and losses in this league, nothing else is close. Goff was probably the only reason the Rams lost so many games as they did. Where as Jimmy's injuries was probably the biggest determining factor of how the Niners lost their games not his play on the field when healthy. That is the main difference between these two quarterbacks and it's a big one. Let's not pretend that isn't the most important factor in all of football and Goff was the WORST at it. No sugarcoating it, No justifying it, no apologies for it, no spinning it. It's plain as day

We already went through this…Jimmy has a higher int % then Goff….JG is not even remotely close in passing attempts which gives more opportunities for fumbles/TOs. Jimmy in his only full season had 10 fumbles as well…when you're 20th in passing attempts, one of the lowest QBs in air yards AND highest in INT% that's an issue.

Your assuming yet again Jimmy would have more turnovers which in not a correct assumption. It depends on factors like wether we play a great defensive opponent and if we have the lead which we usually did we are running the ball, the flow of the games, our offensive line protection from game to game and so on. What a novel idea? Guess you missed that whole concept. More attempts don't always equate to that same rate of turnovers. Oh my so many factors determine that. Also, Jimmy was playing with a less talented and less healthy team. You can't extrapolate and assume Jimmy would have more turnovers at that rate. What we DO KNOW FOR SURE is Goff had a better and healthier team around him since Jimmy G got to SF and was embarrassing bad the last 2 years with his turnovers. Like Christmas time for Defenses. Kinlaw says hi too Jimmy was not an embarrassment like Goff was the last 2 years with those TO's. He lost games and his own coach was pissed. Check some postgame comments by McVay, totally called out Goff for good reason. Also, we have seen Goff play like an absolute bust before McVay and Jimmy played (and WON) so much better with a very average team in 2017. Jimmy was never that horrible. I know it's hard for you to admit but it's cool.