Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I don't know. I'm still of the opinion that they wanted a Dalton/Flacco/Teddy/Darnold/etc. to back up Jimmy, and when that failed they decided to just go all-in on a top rookie QB.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

LOL at characterizing Stafford option A and Lance a consolation prize.

OMG I new you'd get all hard over the word Stafford...it's like Praag from years ago with you lol.

It was just the timeline of it all dude. get a grip.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Dalton at $5M or Jimmy at $26.4M

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I don't know. I'm still of the opinion that they wanted a Dalton/Flacco/Teddy/Darnold/etc. to back up Jimmy, and when that failed they decided to just go all-in on a top rookie QB.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dalton at $5M or Jimmy at $26.4M

A losing season or a winning season.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I don't know. I'm still of the opinion that they wanted a Dalton/Flacco/Teddy/Darnold/etc. to back up Jimmy, and when that failed they decided to just go all-in on a top rookie QB.

This. 100%.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I believe the plan was to Always draft a rookie. Signing a veteran QB was for Insurance more than anything.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I don't know. I'm still of the opinion that they wanted a Dalton/Flacco/Teddy/Darnold/etc. to back up Jimmy, and when that failed they decided to just go all-in on a top rookie QB.

This. 100%.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
A losing season or a winning season.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
This

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
The trade-up was already in the works when Flacco visited. They clearly wanted him as a cheaper bridge for the rookie they were trading up to draft.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
At that point you've decided Lance is gonna be the starter…so you then cut him and save $24M or over $50M for 2022…that's more money saved moving off one player than anyone else in the NFL! go swap day 3 picks for Minshew I don't care, he's a top end backup making like $500K the next two yrs.

we have literally all the leverage. No one is paying him $26M if cut, no one is paying him $15M if he's cut…there is simply no money available for him right now in the market. Teams have their QB rooms setup. He still gets top 12 money and now is a FA in 2022. He gets to determine his future not allow SF to trade him to whomever we want. I mean s**t throw in his incentives to get some cash back, I don't care…he shouldn't be making the money he's making.

I got everyone saying Jimmy starts until he gets hurt, wait so people assume he's gonna get hurt and you STILL want to pay him the 5th most cash in the league?! WTF are we doing here? That's like saying I'm gonna pay $100k for a used KIA that you KNOW is gonna breakdown.

Everything you been saying is 💯 No idea how some think Jimmy has any "leverage" if they ask him to take a pay cut, if he says no they can simply cut his ass, save all but what 2mil cap hit? (Could be wrong) And Jimmy is left looking for someplace to compete for the starting gig, already behind in the process at this point, on a salary that is very likely less than what the 49ers asked him to take a pay cut too.

Absolutely. People here act like Jimmy would have 10 teams immediately trying to sign him as a franchise QB if we were to cut him. The reality is that nobody will want him for more than $5 million on a one year deal at the most. He's Case Keenum with an injury problem. We'd be doing him a favor by asking him to only take a $10 million paycut instead of just cutting him outright. Even with a paycut, he'll probably make more this year with us than he will for the entire rest of his career.

All of this is correct, but I'm looking at this as if I were KS or Lynch. We've seen twice what's happened when Jimmy went down. We had really bad seasons.

From what KS said, or maybe it was Lynch, that they both talked to Jed and Jed was fine with paying that kind of money for Jimmy and Trey this year.

That tells me that KS and Lynch don't want another repeat of last year, or two years ago. Sure their job might still be safe, but it's gonna be on them if they get rid of Jimmy and Trey either doesn't look that good year 1 or gets injured.

I'm sure someone like Parag is thinking more like a fan would (would be nice to have that much extra cap rolled into next year) but you know coaches, GMs, are always for the most part in win now mode. This season needs to be a success and I think having both QBs on the roster makes that more likely.

if you take feelings and emotion out, it's pretty clear for this year

Go in with QB depth

Umm no. It's not just emotions or feelings. It would be like an extra 20 mil in cap we can have next season. So I definitely understand where posters like NY are coming from. I just rather go into the season knowing we're safe with 2 QBs. The only way I would get rid of Jimmy before week 1 is we get a solid offer for him, like a 1st round pick.

it is emotions as the 49ers are not worried about it. They are still signing players and jimmy's contract has no effect

Ok, just say you don't understand how the cap works and you don't understand that money can roll over into next season to be used.

Lol, I guess the 49ers don't understand it either

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Can you explain why we in your opinion, that we would need the capspace for this season? Who is out there that would be signed if we had a bunch of money freed up? Is there some star free agent currently that I am forgetting about?

Because cap space can be rolled over...you don't have to use saved cap space in 2021 for 2021, it doesn't disappear...it's players revenue.

Here's the scenarios:

-Ask Jimmy to rip up his contract and take a 1 yr $12M deal.... that would give SF an extra $41.4M total by 2022 (extra $14.4M that they can use if they want right now or not).
-They could straight up cut him before the season starts and that would give them $49.2M total by 2022 (extra $23.6M that they can use right now or not).
-They can do nothing and let him play out his $26.4M in 2021, pray he doesn't get hurt, and possibly watch him ride the bench at some point...then they cut/trade him in 2022, where they would only get $25.6M total in savings
-They could trade him mid season and whomever trades for him takes on his remaining cash. Once week 1 starts his contract is GTD for the year. No one is gonna take on that contract IMO.

IMO the best of both worlds is asking him to take a pay cut. He's still making top 12 QB cash this yr (currently he's the 5th highest paid player in football). He get's to compete to be the starter on a SB roster, and be a free agent in 2022.

If Bosa kills it this year you think he's gonna go into year 4 without a deal? Yeah right...We all think Warner/AA/Kittle got paid, well you haven't seen s**t with Bosa. Also we have nothing at CB in 2021 outside of two mid round rookies. Who knows with EDGE across with Ford, WR, depth etc.

Why anyone wouldn't want to get an extra $14M onto the books is beyond me.