Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

You said that Lance was only considered when Kyle missed out on Stafford. That is the characterization I disagree with.
The 49ers never told Stafford or any one of his reps they had any interest in him.

Did they consider vet options, yes.
Did they pursue them, no.
Was Lance Plan A, yes.

For starters Stafford wasn't a free agent. You'd need to get in contact with the team more than anything. Beyond that, you have no idea who told what reps exactly what unless you are alot more connected to NFL front offices than we all can tell. Have you tapped people's cell phones, FBI-style? Because otherwise that's just an errant statement you have no clue about.

2ndly,...let it be known that "Lance plan A" is your new line that is just plain weak,...because your original line was that we had to hear about over and over again last season was "we'd never be interested in a QB like Stafford",...and it's a line that, let's be honest, completely collapsed from under you. Let's just keep the score accurate. This was your argument. That was your position. Not who's option A or B after a shocking trade that surprised you.

He knows he was wrong, but he's gotta save face in NT to strangers lol. That's why I said it's best to just ignore it and let him argue with himself.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I can't see Kyle handing the team to a bridge QB with no experience in his system when they are trying to push for a Super Bowl this season.

Not many of the guys we signed to 1 year deals in late March/early April would have done so with Dalton or Flacco on as the starting QB.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Did we actually offer him a deal? All I heard was we sniffed around at all these backup QBs. We brought in Flacco (a week before the trade, which was already in the process of happening), but did we offer him anything?

Also why wouldn't Dalton start here if it's Lance being drafted? That's really not that much different then the Jimmy scenario happening....so he's gonna start over Fields, but wouldn't with Lance?

Because the Bears are a poorly run team? Why would you sign Dalton in the first place when you have Foles? They are essentially the exact same player.

There has to be mutual interest before deals get offered. I highly doubt a team calls Dalton's rep and just says "Hey, 1 yr deal for $5 million" before talking about his willingness to backup vs competing to start.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I can't see Kyle handing the team to a bridge QB with no experience in his system when they are trying to push for a Super Bowl this season.

Not many of the guys we signed to 1 year deals in late March/early April would have done so with Dalton or Flacco on as the starting QB.

It would be handed to the rookie sooner than later, regardless.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I will say, I refuse to believe that SF was ever gonna roll into 2021 with Dalton or Flacco plus Jimmy and say we're good to go lol gross. Your depth get's a little better BUT you don't improve at what matters most and you've invested stupid money (in a covid strapped yr) on avg players. I just don't think our FO/Kyle are that stupid.

I refuse to believe that if they sign one of those two or some other vet backup, that they then don't trade 3 1sts for Lance....the plan was always to get better at the starting position. You don't make a move like that based on what you have at the backup position.

I believe this as well. Had they simply brought in any veteran it would be used as a "cheaper" bridge QB to the rookie they were still going to draft and groom over a couple of years. The goal would have been to trade Jimmy at that time for further draft compensation while wiping a big salary off the books and perhaps, be more aggressive in FA.

Originally posted by socal1632:
Bosa and Jones. . Teams would go offer against us on 3d and long

Originally posted by NCommand:
I believe this as well. Had they simply brought in any veteran it would be used as a "cheaper" bridge QB to the rookie they were still going to draft and groom over a couple of years. The goal would have been to trade Jimmy at that time for further draft compensation while wiping a big salary off the books and perhaps, be more aggressive in FA.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I will say, I refuse to believe that SF was ever gonna roll into 2021 with Dalton or Flacco plus Jimmy and say we're good to go lol gross. Your depth get's a little better BUT you don't improve at what matters most and you've invested stupid money (in a covid strapped yr) on avg players. I just don't think our FO/Kyle are that stupid.

I refuse to believe that if they sign one of those two or some other vet backup, that they then don't trade 3 1sts for Lance....the plan was always to get better at the starting position. You don't make a move like that based on what you have at the backup position.

I believe this as well. Had they simply brought in any veteran it would be used as a "cheaper" bridge QB to the rookie they were still going to draft and groom over a couple of years. The goal would have been to trade Jimmy at that time for further draft compensation while wiping a big salary off the books and perhaps, be more aggressive in FA.

I can't see Kyle handing the team to a bridge QB with no experience in his system when they are trying to push for a Super Bowl this season.

Not many of the guys we signed to 1 year deals in late March/early April would have done so with Dalton or Flacco on as the starting QB.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I will say, I refuse to believe that SF was ever gonna roll into 2021 with Dalton or Flacco plus Jimmy and say we're good to go lol gross. Your depth get's a little better BUT you don't improve at what matters most and you've invested stupid money (in a covid strapped yr) on avg players. I just don't think our FO/Kyle are that stupid.

I refuse to believe that if they sign one of those two or some other vet backup, that they then don't trade 3 1sts for Lance....the plan was always to get better at the starting position. You don't make a move like that based on what you have at the backup position.

I believe this as well. Had they simply brought in any veteran it would be used as a "cheaper" bridge QB to the rookie they were still going to draft and groom over a couple of years. The goal would have been to trade Jimmy at that time for further draft compensation while wiping a big salary off the books and perhaps, be more aggressive in FA.

I can't see Kyle handing the team to a bridge QB with no experience in his system when they are trying to push for a Super Bowl this season.

Not many of the guys we signed to 1 year deals in late March/early April would have done so with Dalton or Flacco on as the starting QB.

That's why it would have been a veteran and preferably, Stafford, hence why Kyle was peeved, as that would send the message they still want to win now but also are preparing for tomorrow with a high upside rookie. Just cheaper...

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
But Stafford was out as an option before February started. They were looking at Dalton/Flacco much later. There is no 'win now' message with either of them.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
But Stafford was out as an option before February started. They were looking at Dalton/Flacco much later. There is no 'win now' message with either of them.

A lot of those FA made nothing this yr regardless. No money out there for a lot of the guys we resigned (outside of Trent).

I don't think having not having Jimmy swayed them either way…Shanahan and familiarity probably played a bigger part imo.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Jimmy gonna ball out this year. The talent on offense is vastly improved since the crap we had in 2019.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I will say, I refuse to believe that SF was ever gonna roll into 2021 with Dalton or Flacco plus Jimmy and say we're good to go lol gross. Your depth get's a little better BUT you don't improve at what matters most and you've invested stupid money (in a covid strapped yr) on avg players. I just don't think our FO/Kyle are that stupid.

I refuse to believe that if they sign one of those two or some other vet backup, that they then don't trade 3 1sts for Lance....the plan was always to get better at the starting position. You don't make a move like that based on what you have at the backup position.

I believe this as well. Had they simply brought in any veteran it would be used as a "cheaper" bridge QB to the rookie they were still going to draft and groom over a couple of years. The goal would have been to trade Jimmy at that time for further draft compensation while wiping a big salary off the books and perhaps, be more aggressive in FA.

I can't see Kyle handing the team to a bridge QB with no experience in his system when they are trying to push for a Super Bowl this season.

Not many of the guys we signed to 1 year deals in late March/early April would have done so with Dalton or Flacco on as the starting QB.

That's why it would have been a veteran and preferably, Stafford, hence why Kyle was peeved, as that would send the message they still want to win now but also are preparing for tomorrow with a high upside rookie. Just cheaper...