Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by lamontb:
Last 5 posts is the reason i tend to stay out of this thread

dont blame you considering 80% of them are from rambler49

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
"safe assumption" = facts

random logic, lol

A safe assumption is not a fact. But continue digging around out of desperation. This and the fake tweet makes 3 fakes from you in the last day. We could just order off Ebay if we wanted so many counterfeits.

oh thank you for finally clearing that up!!

dictionary.com could've did so much faster,...but you're welcome

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
dont blame you considering 80% of them are from rambler49

Uhmmm,...yea this is that part where you start the petty namecalling and the mods for whatever reason look at me. Aside from making up stuff I've never said, it'd be great if you were to stop the pseudo-names.

Inaccurate things on a board should be clarified, so I do so. You lose an argument, it's ok. There's no need to fill up the board with fake quotes that waste space being corrected, and other petty nonsense like this. Move onto something else.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
"safe assumption" = facts

random logic, lol

A safe assumption is not a fact. But continue digging around out of desperation. This and the fake tweet makes 3 fakes from you in the last day. We could just order off Ebay if we wanted so many counterfeits.

oh thank you for finally clearing that up!!

dictionary.com could've did so much faster,...but you're welcome

then why don't you ever use it?

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
then why don't you ever use it?

Here,...let me help.

The 49ers report to training camp Tuesday and take the practice field on Wednesday. Garoppolo remains the starter, but he's not a lock at QB1, and acting as if his injuries were the only reason for the team drafting Lance feels a bit naive.

When we're at the end of the regular season, and someone says, "this team controls their own destiny," that feels like the perfect way to describe the Niners quarterback situation. Jimmy is the leader in the clubhouse, but if he slips up, here comes the rookie.

The question we need to ask about Jimmy is, in relation to Lance, is his good, good enough?

....I thought we'd see a more confident, assertive QB last season, but that wasn't the case during training camp, and that surely wasn't what we saw during Week 1. The 49ers realized that Garoppolo "is who he is" at this point, which is another reason they swung for the fences with Lance.

The bad habits, like dropping your eyes at the sight of a pass rush or missing an open receiver either intermediate to deep, haven't changed, and it's unlikely it ever does for the 30-year-old to be quarterback.

We'll see how Garoppolo responds to competition. Does it bring out the best in him? Will we see Jimmy G crisp, making plays on time, and keeping the offense on schedule? He doesn't have to become a different quarterback to remain the starting QB.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/7/26/22589554/49ers-90-in-90-what-jimmy-garoppolos-last-hoorah-with-the-niners-might-look-like

FWIW,...it might look like my writing,...but I'm not the author.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
then why don't you ever use it?

Here,...let me help.

The 49ers report to training camp Tuesday and take the practice field on Wednesday. Garoppolo remains the starter, but he's not a lock at QB1, and acting as if his injuries were the only reason for the team drafting Lance feels a bit naive.

When we're at the end of the regular season, and someone says, "this team controls their own destiny," that feels like the perfect way to describe the Niners quarterback situation. Jimmy is the leader in the clubhouse, but if he slips up, here comes the rookie.

The question we need to ask about Jimmy is, in relation to Lance, is his good, good enough?
https://www.ninersnation.com/2021/7/26/22589554/49ers-90-in-90-what-jimmy-garoppolos-last-hoorah-with-the-niners-might-look-like

help with what?

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

help with what?

The writer saying stuff like this:

The bad habits, like dropping your eyes at the sight of a pass rush or missing an open receiver either intermediate to deep, haven't changed, and it's unlikely it ever does for the 30-year-old to be quarterback.

i.e.,...maybe he DOES work hard at these things during the offseason, but is just incapable,...hence, 3 1sts for Trey. Do you think he's just incapable or do you think he can work to improve? Which would be your opinion?

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

help with what?

The writer saying stuff like this:

The bad habits, like dropping your eyes at the sight of a pass rush or missing an open receiver either intermediate to deep, haven't changed, and it's unlikely it ever does for the 30-year-old to be quarterback.

i.e.,...maybe he DOES work hard at these things during the offseason, but is just incapable,...hence, 3 1sts for Trey. Do you think he's just incapable or do you think he can work to improve? Which would be your opinion?

well since we're having a more interesting and real discussion now, ill entertain it;

do I think bottom-line, 100%, only, that 3 1sts for Trey were mortgaged because of that sentence that was written in the article? in my opinion no, as it was way more involved than that alone. more of a product of urgency due to durability concerns with Jimmy+ an amazing opportunity presenting itself after having one of the most successful offseasons they could've asked for.

I think Jimmy absolutely can improve. the problem is, he can get as much practice and offseason work in to improve on those areas, but none of it matters if he can't stay on the field often enough to improve with actual game reps and in-game experience instead.

i cant say he's "incapable" because he's missed so much time. I don't know what his true ceiling is. it'd be nice to have another full season with him to get a better idea. I want to see if he can improve his deep ball, and clean up that 'hesitancy' that seemed to grow on him over the past couple of seasons.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
I think Jimmy absolutely can improve. the problem is, he can get as much practice and offseason work in to improve on those areas, but none of it matters if he can't stay on the field often enough to improve with actual game reps and in-game experience instead.

I recognize that maybe he just is who he is as the writer said, and that's why we set up to move on.

But like you (and unlike the writer), I've given leeway to the possibility that he "can" improve. The "he hasnt worked hard enough" mantra others may obsess over was really a backhanded compliment to Jimmy all along.

At this point, however, I disagree that in-game reps are what Jimmy is lacking @ almost 30 yrs old and with as much tape as he could ask for of his bad tendencies to work on.

So my stance is the same it's been for him: offseason and what he brings into the building as training camp starts. We have 2 games on the road right away,...and much like I said this time of the year last year, I believe that if there are any improvements to his game, we'll probably notice them right off the bat.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Have we really sunk so far as to quote random ESPN employees now? haha

I mean, me and 49ATT set off a chain of copy pasta tweets creating a huge domino effect through multiple thread so anything goes at this point id say

Prove what SZ and i posted is fake !!

Lol guess we will have to see these private workout videos that all these Twitter accounts were lucky enough to see in person

so all im reading from everybody is overwhelmingly how Jimmy is just coming off as much more focused, sharper, "fiery" not only in what he showed in OTA's with the ball, but just how he's presenting himself and body language-wise. really interested in getting a chance to see what everyone's talking about here for myself.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
so all im reading from everybody is overwhelmingly how Jimmy is just coming off as much more focused, sharper, "fiery" not only in what he showed in OTA's with the ball, but just how he's presenting himself and body language-wise. really interested in getting a chance to see what everyone's talking about here for myself.

Same here. Can't wait...football season is just about here!

Jimmy here to stay?

Nice new article from here w/a vibe I wanted to hear about after last year's season:

Shanahan seems especially impressed with Garoppolo's offseason work, adding, "And I thought he had as good of OTAs as he's had since he's been here. So that really excites me about Jimmy going into training camp." Shanahan noted that the quarterback came to OTAs (organized team activities) having improved upon the previous season. He expects Garoppolo to build off that. And having an improved offensive team around him will only help. The San Francisco coach said he told his quarterback, "...there's no rookie who is going to just come in here right away and be able to take your job if you're at the top of your game and what I've seen so far is him getting there. And that's very exciting for me. It's very exciting for the Niners and it's early those were OTAs..."

So what exactly was it that impressed Shanahan this offseason? When asked, the coach responded, "Just how sharp he was, the rhythm of getting the ball out on time, where it was going. Just even if I didn't watch the film, if I just watched his body language, how he talked to people, how he called the play he was very clear. He was very sharp, aggressive in what he did. And it was, it was good to see and excited me while we were away. And you can hear that I'm excited about it now."

So chalk Shanahan up as someone who ALSO thinks how you come in and report on day 1 (after adversity from the previous season) is immensely important.

Since year after year I haven't seen Shanahan speak like this going into training camp the last several years, it could either be fluff (to eventually trade him) or more likely, that drafting a rook @ his position Top 3 in the draft has lit a fuse.

Unfortunately for some players in cozy positions contractually, competition is what it takes.

Great article by TK on jimmy in the athletic today. Much more insight and truth than you'll get from some guys on a fan forum