Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
We'll see what happens. Yes, this team can win it now - "win now" mode. No doubt about it with the talent this team has plus the QB room.
And of course my argument isn't "win now mode only for this season" - not even close. If Lance is the QB we hope he is, he'll be fine picking up & running well this offense & starting whenever Shanahan determines that to be.
You have no clue as to whether Lance "should start sooner, not later" - none of us do because: 1) there's still a lot of time to evaluate the QBs for Shanahan to determine which one gives this team the best chance to win; and 2) no one has even seen Lance play a preseason game yet.
It's a little baffling you can throw out that statement this early about Lance starting sooner than later without having a better idea about how he'll do at the talented NFL level, its game speed, seeing in the heat of the moment various defensive formations that try to confuse or bait QBs, etc., etc., etc.
If Garoppolo is QB1 to start the season like I think he'll be, and if this team is winning and he's playing well as the season goes on, I don't see any reason for the team to have a timeline this season to throw Lance in there as a starter just to get him experience, just to get him to be able to "master the offense sooner to be able to produce sooner."
Again, let's see what happens.
The above is a beautiful red herring. I don't see these often at work anymore
I never said Lance should start sooner rather than later. I said, and it's right there in my quote, if your argument is the team is in win now mode, for more than this season, it stands to reason Lance should start sooner rather than later. My conclusion necessarily follows from your premise(s). It's basic logic.
You said, and I quoted you so there could be no confusion, correcting an earlier take and changing it slightly as, "it takes two seasons to be close to mastering this offense."
If we assume Lance plays out his four-year rookie contract, then at best, based on your words, he would only have two years playing on said contract wherein he has nearly mastered the offense. For the sake of argument, I will assume Lance is not a genius, and will take the full two seasons you asserted to be how long it will take Lance to nearly master the offense.
If we further assume Lance will make significantly more on his second NFL contract (unless he is out of the NFL, this assumption, for all intents and purposes, is a certainty), thereby shifting a larger percentage of the team's salary cap to himself, thus lessening the amount of money available to pay other players (who are integral to team success), then it certainly follows that the team has the best chance to win when they have the most talented team (this claim is self-evident). Not absolutely, mind you, but probably.
Thus logically, assuming nearly mastering the offense equates to giving the team the best chance to win (in terms of QB impact), then it necessarily follows the sooner the 49ers start Lance, the sooner he will master the offense. Unless you are saying QBs can nearly master the offense without playing, i.e. by merely sitting on the bench. That's a completely different argument. Certainly not a winning one. And one I don't believe you are making. And...if it is the argument you are making, then JG must be Ip Man, in terms of KS's offense.
Hence, I do not need to know how Lance will play. It doesn't matter what Kyle thinks. My argument is based solely on what you asserted. It exists in a vacuum. And my conclusion necessarily follows from your premise(s). So, if you believe what you asserted, you should be all for starting Trey week 1, in order to maximize the 49ers chances of winning the Super Bowl, both now, and in the future.
