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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
[ Edited by random49er on Sep 22, 2021 at 10:44 PM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Cool story but what does Schlereth know about QB'ing.

He's a meat head moron. Is he still with ESPN? My god was he annoying.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

luck: success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions.
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Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
PFF's QB ratings are a joke. They literally give style points. That's what it measures. QB's are given a zero for executing the play as they think it was meant to be.

OL is a little better, but even then doesn't account for scheme. Trent Williams called it out last year, said they had him credited with sacks given up on the year when the 49ers in house analysis unit - that actually knows the scheme of the plays called, had him with 0.

Tells me all I need to know about PFF's QB ratings.

Agree. How can you grade accurately if you don't know the play and the audibles? Take those stats with a big healthy dose of salt.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
PFF's QB ratings are a joke. They literally give style points. That's what it measures. QB's are given a zero for executing the play as they think it was meant to be.

OL is a little better, but even then doesn't account for scheme. Trent Williams called it out last year, said they had him credited with sacks given up on the year when the 49ers in house analysis unit - that actually knows the scheme of the plays called, had him with 0.

They also have Mailata credited with 0 sacks allowed despite the Bosa sack on Sunday where he was literally driven back into the QB. I understand that the entire pocket got collapsed, but had Mailata not allowed himself to be bent to Bosa's will, Hurts at least has a chance to escape that sack.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.
[ Edited by random49er on Sep 23, 2021 at 5:20 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."

I think the fact Trent adjusted his route improvisationally/accordingly is rather a testament to his experience, not inexperience.
[ Edited by SkyZer0 on Sep 23, 2021 at 5:38 AM ]
Joe Montana is on GMFB this morning:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."

I think the fact Trent adjusted his route improvisationally/accordingly is rather a testament to his experience, not inexperience.

He could've been playing WR since 5 yrs old for all I know,....I'm not referring to that kind of experience.

I'm referring to NFL experience. He's 4 years in and hasnt even eclipsed 400 career yards yet. Averaging 100 yards a year certainly puts him in the inexperienced category in the NFL. You just havent been playing very much if you're only getting 10 catches a year.
[ Edited by random49er on Sep 23, 2021 at 5:55 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.
What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
PFF's QB ratings are a joke. They literally give style points. That's what it measures. QB's are given a zero for executing the play as they think it was meant to be.

OL is a little better, but even then doesn't account for scheme. Trent Williams called it out last year, said they had him credited with sacks given up on the year when the 49ers in house analysis unit - that actually knows the scheme of the plays called, had him with 0.

Tells me all I need to know about PFF's QB ratings.

It's not on them. It's on you guys for making so much out of ratings after only a couple weeks. Not the same as rankings.

The ranked ratings are not meant to be rankings?

LOL

You're completely lost on the difference, IT-at-Home guy. This is no surprise.

They numbered and ranked the ratings in order and you are arguing they are not rankings. That us dumb as is your attempt to.make fun of my profession.
You are a clown.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 49ERnation:
Deebo on the wrong side lol good job on Jimmy and Trent to adjust the play

Wow, that makes sense. The other side was an Ohio amd if Deebo is there you get a triple concept, Ohio, Divide and sucker. Still puts Deebo as the 3rd and sherffield did a great job communicating to create the divide concept. But that triple combo makes more sense vs zone than what we ran as it gives 3 options vs different possible zones.

Kinda knocks the wind out of your sails a little bit with all of that stock put into the greatness of it then finding out we just got lucky on that one. But yea that's where veteran leadership comes into play to help win a close one.

LOL
The pass was great, not lucky.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."

I think the fact Trent adjusted his route improvisationally/accordingly is rather a testament to his experience, not inexperience.

He could've been playing WR since 5 yrs old for all I know,....I'm not referring to that kind of experience.

I am. because his longevity equates to knowledge. and it paid off at that moment in time with Deebo.
Is it my imagination or does Jimmy look different throwing the ball from the pocket between week 1 and week 2? His lower body seems much stiffer vs the Eagles to me.
[ Edited by a49erfan77 on Sep 23, 2021 at 6:54 AM ]
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