Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

How is Jimmy 33rd in the league in YPA? There are only 32 teams…

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
sky don't fall for the digression of the subject/original Statement

The original statement sky read and chose to ignore. He chose to comment on a minor detail of a point I made within it, and that's just fine. It's a discussion board.

thanks for confirming, by all means talk about Trent's playing time lol

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
They numbered and ranked the ratings in order and you are arguing they are not rankings. That us dumb as is your attempt to.make fun of my profession.
You are a clown.

Statistical ratings are pretty much calculations,...the attempt is to leave opinion out as much as possible and just spit out a number for comparison to others.

Rankings involve opinion. It's completely nonsensical to huff and puff over Winston having the 1st week's highest rating like the the purpose of it was to involve their opinion.

It's just 1 week!!!! The system isin't a "joke",...it's just your interpretation is out of whack and you're not at all understanding the point. PFF is going to continue to advertise them -- early or not -- because they're a company. It's in their interest to continually promote their product.

However,...it takes time for these ratings to accrue and take on legitimate meaning. I understand that they're not for everyone, but that's just how statistics work. The more data that becomes involved, the more meaningful the statistic should be.

Contrast that to NFL.com RANKING Winston ahead of Jimmy G due to one 5 TD week where I dont think he even eclipsed 200 yards passing the ball. Now THEY deserve criticism for that. Jimmy had a bad year last year, but they moved Winston up too soon. Directing criticism towards their rankings would make much more sense than arguing early-season PFF ratings are garbage because 1 player is ahead of the other.

They're not necessarily garbage,...PFF's system simply suggests a player had a good week. Nothing more.

Hope that helps you understand the difference so the back and forth about nothing can subside.

dude, you need to get a girlfriend

Jimmy is 12 at qbr and 8 in nfl qb rating.

Just like his super bowl year.

Facts.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
They numbered and ranked the ratings in order and you are arguing they are not rankings. That us dumb as is your attempt to.make fun of my profession.
You are a clown.

Statistical ratings are pretty much calculations,...the attempt is to leave opinion out as much as possible and just spit out a number for comparison to others.

Rankings involve opinion. It's completely nonsensical to huff and puff over Winston having the 1st week's highest rating like the the purpose of it was to involve their opinion.

It's just 1 week!!!! The system isin't a "joke",...it's just your interpretation is out of whack and you're not at all understanding the point. PFF is going to continue to advertise them -- early or not -- because they're a company. It's in their interest to continually promote their product.

However,...it takes time for these ratings to accrue and take on legitimate meaning. I understand that they're not for everyone, but that's just how statistics work. The more data that becomes involved, the more meaningful the statistic should be.

Contrast that to NFL.com RANKING Winston ahead of Jimmy G due to one 5 TD week where I dont think he even eclipsed 200 yards passing the ball. Now THEY deserve criticism for that. Jimmy had a bad year last year, but they moved Winston up too soon. Directing criticism towards their rankings would make much more sense than arguing early-season PFF ratings are garbage because 1 player is ahead of the other.

They're not necessarily garbage,...PFF's system simply suggests a player had a good week. Nothing more.

Hope that helps you understand the difference so the back and forth about nothing can subside.

dude, you need to get a girlfriend

Good on topic post. Extremely informative. Thanks for adding to the discussion.

Anyways, Jimmy can't come out flat in the first half the way he did against philly. I hope he lights the packers up.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."

Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.

What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

I was responding to someone else regarding the word execution. It was almost a busted play, so that's not great execution. Of course, we cant have a legit discussion because somehow that's an attack on Jimmy you have to get defensive about.

He made a great throw, it's just that your analysis of the throw was a little off per Deebo. It is what it is.

But there's no need to click quote, then copy and paste to another thread while responding to a post here, but thanks.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Jimmy is 12 at qbr and 8 in nfl qb rating.

Just like his super bowl year.

Facts.

We need to be better passing the ball than that year IMO But it's early,...these spots will swing dramatically the next several weeks.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Jimmy is 12 at qbr and 8 in nfl qb rating.

Just like his super bowl year.

Facts.

We need to be better passing the ball than that year IMO But it's early,...these spots will swing dramatically the next several weeks.

No doubt.. JG looked good against Detroit and not so good against the Eagles. I expect the offense to look much better against the Packers though.

Everytime I hear Jimmy G. speak, I only see a humble, consummate professional who is doing his best in whatever way he can. This is a guy with a 24-8 record, and the 49ers & media seem to be constantly undermine him. First, the off-season effort to get Rodgers (he heard that from twitter), then the draft pick, and then everyday, the constant bombarding by the media - "how is your freakin relationship with Trey Lance".
Yes, he is injury prone, and there is nothing wrong in trying to get a more robust (health wise) QB. At the least, inform him and keep him in the loop when you go try to get other QBs like Rodgers and Watson and what not. You can do what you please, and still communicate, it goes a long way when you are upfront and honest.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
They numbered and ranked the ratings in order and you are arguing they are not rankings. That us dumb as is your attempt to.make fun of my profession.
You are a clown.

Statistical ratings are pretty much calculations,...the attempt is to leave opinion out as much as possible and just spit out a number for comparison to others.

Rankings involve opinion. It's completely nonsensical to huff and puff over Winston having the 1st week's highest rating like the the purpose of it was to involve their opinion.

It's just 1 week!!!! The system isin't a "joke",...it's just your interpretation is out of whack and you're not at all understanding the point. PFF is going to continue to advertise them -- early or not -- because they're a company. It's in their interest to continually promote their product.

However,...it takes time for these ratings to accrue and take on legitimate meaning. I understand that they're not for everyone, but that's just how statistics work. The more data that becomes involved, the more meaningful the statistic should be.

Contrast that to NFL.com RANKING Winston ahead of Jimmy G due to one 5 TD week where I dont think he even eclipsed 200 yards passing the ball. Now THEY deserve criticism for that. Jimmy had a bad year last year, but they moved Winston up too soon. Directing criticism towards their rankings would make much more sense than arguing early-season PFF ratings are garbage because 1 player is ahead of the other.

They're not necessarily garbage,...PFF's system simply suggests a player had a good week. Nothing more.

Hope that helps you understand the difference so the back and forth about nothing can subside.

dude, you need to get a girlfriend

Pathetic trolling

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
dude, you need to get a girlfriend

the f that gotta do with anything?

Originally posted by 49ersking:
Everytime I hear Jimmy G. speak, I only see a humble, consummate professional who is doing his best in whatever way he can. This is a guy with a 24-8 record, and the 49ers & media seem to be constantly undermine him. First, the off-season effort to get Rodgers (he heard that from twitter), then the draft pick, and then everyday, the constant bombarding by the media - "how is your freakin relationship with Trey Lance".
Yes, he is injury prone, and there is nothing wrong in trying to get a more robust (health wise) QB. At the least, inform him and keep him in the loop when you go try to get other QBs like Rodgers and Watson and what not. You can do what you please, and still communicate, it goes a long way when you are upfront and honest.

They informed him when they traded up for his replacement, but for the Rodgers thing, it makes no sense for them to inform him about a trade they didn't make, especially when they had already traded up to #3.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."

Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.

What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
dude, you need to get a girlfriend

the f that gotta do with anything?

it's like most of the posts in the Jimmy thread these days, not much

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
dude, you need to get a girlfriend

the f that gotta do with anything?

it's like most of the posts in the Jimmy thread these days, not much

Sure, but let's stick to football instead of saying something that doesn't have anything to do with football.