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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.
What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.
impromptu, improvisation and execution
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.
What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.
impromptu, improvisation and execution

works for Mahommes and Hill all the time
Now that's the dumbest conversation we've had yet. Great stuff
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.
What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.
impromptu, improvisation and execution

works for Mahommes and Hill all the time
it's a good sign, but hopefuly it's not that common
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Sep 23, 2021 at 1:46 PM ]
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.
What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.
impromptu, improvisation and execution

Jimmy circa 2017 at his best. Sometimes I wonder if he would put up better number in a system not as rigid as Kyle's.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by random49er:
You're completely lost on the difference, IT-at-Home guy. This is no surprise.

hey random....what was the point of this comment? what does Woo's profession have to do with comments on Jimmy G?

Woo was flexing a couple days ago how much more he makes than that guy who's a blogger for bleacher report.

No I wasn't. I said sports bloggers/writers are poorly paid and switched careers due to that. It was in response to a comment about how he gets paid to analyze football and I don't.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
They numbered and ranked the ratings in order and you are arguing they are not rankings. That us dumb as is your attempt to.make fun of my profession.
You are a clown.

Statistical ratings are pretty much calculations,...the attempt is to leave opinion out as much as possible and just spit out a number for comparison to others.

Rankings involve opinion. It's completely nonsensical to huff and puff over Winston having the 1st week's highest rating like the the purpose of it was to involve their opinion.

It's just 1 week!!!! The system isin't a "joke",...it's just your interpretation is out of whack and you're not at all understanding the point. PFF is going to continue to advertise them -- early or not -- because they're a company. It's in their interest to continually promote their product.

However,...it takes time for these ratings to accrue and take on legitimate meaning. I understand that they're not for everyone, but that's just how statistics work. The more data that becomes involved, the more meaningful the statistic should be.

Contrast that to NFL.com RANKING Winston ahead of Jimmy G due to one 5 TD week where I dont think he even eclipsed 200 yards passing the ball. Now THEY deserve criticism for that. Jimmy had a bad year last year, but they moved Winston up too soon. Directing criticism towards their rankings would make much more sense than arguing early-season PFF ratings are garbage because 1 player is ahead of the other.

They're not necessarily garbage,...PFF's system simply suggests a player had a good week. Nothing more.

Hope that helps you understand the difference so the back and forth about nothing can subside.

I just pointed out the fact that ranked ratings are indeed rankings.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.
What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.
impromptu, improvisation and execution

Jimmy circa 2017 at his best. Sometimes I wonder if he would put up better number in a system not as rigid as Kyle's.
our OL has been jimmy's achillies heel. he's been shell shocked and still kind of see it now (not fully trusting his OL)

When this line gels and jimmy gets comfy.. he will light it up
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."
Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.
What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

I was responding to someone else regarding the word execution. It was almost a busted play, so that's not great execution. Of course, we cant have a legit discussion because somehow that's an attack on Jimmy you have to get defensive about.

He made a great throw, it's just that your analysis of the throw was a little off per Deebo. It is what it is.

But there's no need to click quote, then copy and paste to another thread while responding to a post here, but thanks.

Jimmy's execution on that play was outstanding, was it not?
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
dude, you need to get a girlfriend

the f that gotta do with anything?

About as much as the At Home IT comment.
Originally posted by boast:
lol at thinking this is only "luck".

Never said it was only luck. When your entire argument has to revolve around lies you try to run with... What does that say?
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by boast:
lol at thinking this is only "luck".

Never said it was only luck. When your entire argument has to revolve around lies you try to run with... What does that say?
That's exactly what you said.

"Kinda knocks the wind out of your sails a little bit with all of that stock put into the greatness of it then finding out we just got lucky on that one."
[ Edited by CaseyJones49 on Sep 23, 2021 at 2:02 PM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by boast:
lol at thinking this is only "luck".

Never said it was only luck. When your entire argument has to revolve around lies you try to run with... What does that say?

sure guy, im lying....

Originally posted by random49er:

Kinda knocks the wind out of your sails a little bit with all of that stock put into the greatness of it then finding out we just got lucky on that one. But yea that's where veteran leadership comes into play to help win a close one.


youre really full of it dude. your posts are the worst and many agree.
Originally posted by CaseyJones49:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by boast:
lol at thinking this is only "luck".

Never said it was only luck. When your entire argument has to revolve around lies you try to run with... What does that say?
That's exactly what you said.

"Kinda knocks the wind out of your sails a little bit with all of that stock put into the greatness of it then finding out we just got lucky on that one."

Jommy's play was great, not lucky. It was a terrible take.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I just pointed out the fact that ranked ratings are indeed rankings.

So long as you know the difference between a list that is complete, 100% opinion (rankings)... and calculations that were sorted in excel (ratings).

There's just a huge, huge difference between the two that obviously some have trouble with early in the season.
[ Edited by random49er on Sep 23, 2021 at 2:07 PM ]
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