Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
I think it'd be better worded if it was described as, "it was a successfully executed play, just not by the way the play was designed or intended" or something. either way, it worked out so doesn't matter. but is that a fair re-phrase to clarify your point?

Nahh.. Someone said it was great execution on the play... I said it obviously wasn't per Deebo.

That should really be the end of it. But you know,... emotions and stuff.

It is kinda funny to see grown guys (I assume? ) get so upset at how someone else sees things.

Nahh…it's clear to everyone you were trying to shade/diminish jimmys throw/execution along with JDs analysis of the play and his accolades to jimmy. People would probably move on if you just admitted it, but your ego won't allow that.

pretty much..

Originally posted by cciowa:
contrary to some.. the qb thing is the very least of our concern in my opinion.. its the run game which is the best friend of a qb,, no matter who the qb is

This

I'm confused by a couple of things:

1. Why is there a "Jimmy vs. Trey" argument at all? Don't we want BOTH QB's to be successful? I like Jimmy and have defended him a ton, but the cap math really favors a QB on his rookie contract. So Trey will likely be the QB next year regardless of what Jimmy does this year. But Jimmy is our starter so don't we want him to succeed?

2. Trade Trey for a #1 CB? Even Deion Sanders in his prime might not be worth what we gave up for Trey. And again, cap math would mean we couldn't even afford this player, so why even throw that out as an option.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm confused by a couple of things:

1. Why is there a "Jimmy vs. Trey" argument at all? Don't we want BOTH QB's to be successful? I like Jimmy and have defended him a ton, but the cap math really favors a QB on his rookie contract. So Trey will likely be the QB next year regardless of what Jimmy does this year. But Jimmy is our starter so don't we want him to succeed?

2. Trade Trey for a #1 CB? Even Deion Sanders in his prime might not be worth what we gave up for Trey. And again, cap math would mean we couldn't even afford this player, so why even throw that out as an option.

It wasn't serious. Someone posted "would you trade Trey for a # 1 corner" in a thread the week after the Lions game, I replied "in a heartbeat"

it was started by Mayo who's had his share of ridiculous takes, so I gave mine.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm confused by a couple of things:

1. Why is there a "Jimmy vs. Trey" argument at all? Don't we want BOTH QB's to be successful? I like Jimmy and have defended him a ton, but the cap math really favors a QB on his rookie contract. So Trey will likely be the QB next year regardless of what Jimmy does this year. But Jimmy is our starter so don't we want him to succeed?

2. Trade Trey for a #1 CB? Even Deion Sanders in his prime might not be worth what we gave up for Trey. And again, cap math would mean we couldn't even afford this player, so why even throw that out as an option.

Bold: There isnt. I'll give you a guess who believes there is.

Italic: 100%

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm confused by a couple of things:

1. Why is there a "Jimmy vs. Trey" argument at all? Don't we want BOTH QB's to be successful? I like Jimmy and have defended him a ton, but the cap math really favors a QB on his rookie contract. So Trey will likely be the QB next year regardless of what Jimmy does this year. But Jimmy is our starter so don't we want him to succeed?

2. Trade Trey for a #1 CB? Even Deion Sanders in his prime might not be worth what we gave up for Trey. And again, cap math would mean we couldn't even afford this player, so why even throw that out as an option.

Bold: There isnt. I'll give you a guess who believes there is.

Italic: 100%

So the last 5 months have just been an illusion?

I've said dozens of times I'm taking Jimmy over Trey for now, I'm not a fan of the Trey pick, I prayed and hoped, the Niners would take Fields or Mac over him, or Zach Wilson somehow fell to us(f**k you Jets) and was very disappointed when Commish announced the pick. but if he becomes elite I'd be excited.

Originally posted by Furlow:

I'm confused by a couple of things:

1. Why is there a "Jimmy vs. Trey" argument at all? Don't we want BOTH QB's to be successful? I like Jimmy and have defended him a ton, but the cap math really favors a QB on his rookie contract. So Trey will likely be the QB next year regardless of what Jimmy does this year. But Jimmy is our starter so don't we want him to succeed?

2. Trade Trey for a #1 CB? Even Deion Sanders in his prime might not be worth what we gave up for Trey. And again, cap math would mean we couldn't even afford this player, so why even throw that out as an option.

You would have to ask either the Jimmysexuals or the Jimmyhaters.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
I think it'd be better worded if it was described as, "it was a successfully executed play, just not by the way the play was designed or intended" or something. either way, it worked out so doesn't matter. but is that a fair re-phrase to clarify your point?

Nahh.. Someone said it was great execution on the play... I said it obviously wasn't per Deebo.

That should really be the end of it. But you know,... emotions and stuff.

It is kinda funny to see grown guys (I assume? ) get so upset at how someone else sees things.

Nahh…it's clear to everyone you were trying to shade/diminish jimmys throw/execution along with JDs analysis of the play and his accolades to jimmy. People would probably move on if you just admitted it, but your ego won't allow that.

Huh? I certainly diminished it but only in context of the discussion about the play in comments days ago.

That doesn't mean Jimmy didn't make a great throw still or that Deebo didn't make a great grab and get YAC on it.

But the start to finish comments about the play being so great before Deebo's comments,... Yea... I certainly took it in another direction.

Nothing Groundbreaking there Hoov. That was clear from post #1.

The problem you and your boys have with things is if someone says it's not the greatest thing ever you get offended and put out there that the person said it sucks... Lol.

There's a difference between diminishing something and throwing it in the trash bin.

So it's kinda juvenile to black and white every issue when there's alot of gray in between. Don't talk to me about it, talk to your boys...

Originally posted by random49er:
Huh? I certainly diminished it but only in context of the discussion about the play in comments days ago.

That doesn't mean Jimmy didn't make a great throw still or that Deebo didn't make a great grab and get YAC on it.

But the start to finish comments about the play being so great before Deebo's comments,... Yea... I certainly took it in another direction.

Nothing Groundbreaking there Hoov. That was clear from post #1.

The problem you and your boys have with things is if someone says it's not the greatest thing ever you get offended and put out there that the person said it sucks... Lol.

There's a difference between diminishing something and throwing it in the trash bin.

So it's kinda juvenile to black and white every issue when there's alot of gray in between. Don't talk to me about it, talk to your boys...

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."

Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.

What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.

impromptu, improvisation and execution

works for Mahommes and Hill all the time

Yeah but he hit Deebo in rhythm of the play. This wasn't an out of structure play.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
I think it'd be better worded if it was described as, "it was a successfully executed play, just not by the way the play was designed or intended" or something. either way, it worked out so doesn't matter. but is that a fair re-phrase to clarify your point?

Nahh.. Someone said it was great execution on the play... I said it obviously wasn't per Deebo.

That should really be the end of it. But you know,... emotions and stuff.

It is kinda funny to see grown guys (I assume? ) get so upset at how someone else sees things.

Nahh…it's clear to everyone you were trying to shade/diminish jimmys throw/execution along with JDs analysis of the play and his accolades to jimmy. People would probably move on if you just admitted it, but your ego won't allow that.

Huh? I certainly diminished it but only in context of the discussion about the play in comments days ago.

That doesn't mean Jimmy didn't make a great throw still or that Deebo didn't make a great grab and get YAC on it.

But the start to finish comments about the play being so great before Deebo's comments,... Yea... I certainly took it in another direction.

Nothing Groundbreaking there Hoov. That was clear from post #1.

The problem you and your boys have with things is if someone says it's not the greatest thing ever you get offended and put out there that the person said it sucks... Lol.

There's a difference between diminishing something and throwing it in the trash bin.

So it's kinda juvenile to black and white every issue when there's alot of gray in between. Don't talk to me about it, talk to your boys...

What you're not understanding is that the fact he lined up on the wrong side from the play call doesn't affect the processing Jimmy did how the play was ran. All it does it make him look better because it went from a half field, 3 concept read to a whole field read.

He did it in less than 2.5 seconds throwing a pinpoint throw.

You're trying to diminish my analysis of it but you're not countering it with any pertinent information to the events per my analysis

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."

Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.

What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.

impromptu, improvisation and execution

works for Mahommes and Hill all the time

Yeah but he hit Deebo in rhythm of the play. This wasn't an out of structure play.

this is what you're looking for.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by boast:
i haven't reported anyone. ask any mod here. should i call you a liar?

I haven't called you any names (there's no point in it when you're in protected status). But I will tell you again (because you do it often) that when you have to lie to get your point across... It's probably a weak point to begin with. Saying I called you a name over and over to anyone that will hear you out... Lol... is a shining example and reeks of desperation.

I may make points that many don't agree with... But I don't make a concerted effort to fabricate what others are saying like you seem to enjoy doing.

#TheEnd
#DiscussThe49ers

Take this to PM. No one gives a s**t.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
What you're not understanding is that the fact he lined up on the wrong side from the play call doesn't affect the processing Jimmy did how the play was ran. All it does it make him look better because it went from a half field, 3 concept read to a whole field read.

He did it in less than 2.5 seconds throwing a pinpoint throw.

You're trying to diminish my analysis of it but you're not countering it with any pertinent information to the events per my analysis

This. It's all nonsensical fluff dressed up with a lot of words per usual

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by thl408:
Please report any posts that require moderator attention. Let's clean this place up.

Like a city broken into different social classes, I think it would be best if each poster depending if they're pro-Jimmy or pro-Trey stay in their respective threads. This argument has been going on the moment Trey was drafted and it's not going to stop until he PROVES to be a top 5 NFL QB. The fanbases is divided

How about you leave the thread if you're unwilling to talk about Jimmy G's play…. the good and the bad.

Same for Trey.

That seems more logical to me.

That's not going to happen…

if the last 5 months isn't enough evidence for you then that's on you.

So let me get this straight…

You've admitted to trolling in the Trey thread but now you want people to stay out of the Jimmy thread because they might troll, just like you did?

Maybe it's people like YOU that should leave these threads.

stop being so barbaric.

Lol. I never knew the "golden rule" was barbaric.

"Treat others how you want to be treated"

That seems like the opposite of barbaric to me.

You've yet to do that judging by your posts

Well let's put this into practice shall we?

You and other Jimmy Stans have told people who say negative things about him are not "real fans"

So even though you've trolled on the Lance thread about trading him for a former 1st round pick corner who's disgruntled and extremely unproven…

I wouldn't say that you're not a real 49ers fan.

Who am I to judge that?

If someone comes at me with something I'm not going back down but I try not to be rude when someone else is being genuine.

I don't get that sense with many Jimmy Stans. They're not having honest discussions when there easily could be.