Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by jonnydel:
What you're not understanding is that the fact he lined up on the wrong side from the play call doesn't affect the processing Jimmy did how the play was ran. All it does it make him look better because it went from a half field, 3 concept read to a whole field read.

He did it in less than 2.5 seconds throwing a pinpoint throw.

You're trying to diminish my analysis of it but you're not countering it with any pertinent information to the events per my analysis

No... Just your opinion of it (only a handful of QBs can make this play?... that was almost a busted play),...not your analysis. Two completely different things.

The rhetoric I just mentioned...I am clearly dead set against if you were referring to this particular play...especially now given Deebo's comments about it.

You get what you give

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

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Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by thl408:
Please report any posts that require moderator attention. Let's clean this place up.

Like a city broken into different social classes, I think it would be best if each poster depending if they're pro-Jimmy or pro-Trey stay in their respective threads. This argument has been going on the moment Trey was drafted and it's not going to stop until he PROVES to be a top 5 NFL QB. The fanbases is divided

How about you leave the thread if you're unwilling to talk about Jimmy G's play…. the good and the bad.

Same for Trey.

That seems more logical to me.

That's not going to happen…

if the last 5 months isn't enough evidence for you then that's on you.

So let me get this straight…

You've admitted to trolling in the Trey thread but now you want people to stay out of the Jimmy thread because they might troll, just like you did?

Maybe it's people like YOU that should leave these threads.

stop being so barbaric.

Lol. I never knew the "golden rule" was barbaric.

"Treat others how you want to be treated"

That seems like the opposite of barbaric to me.

You've yet to do that judging by your posts

Well let's put this into practice shall we?

You and other Jimmy Stans have told people who say negative things about him are not "real fans"

So even though you've trolled on the Lance thread about trading him for a former 1st round pick corner who's disgruntled and extremely unproven…

I wouldn't say that you're not a real 49ers fan.

Who am I to judge that?

If someone comes at me with something I'm not going back down but I try not to be rude when someone else is being genuine.

I don't get that sense with many Jimmy Stans. They're not having honest discussions when there easily could be.

Apples and oranges dude. Give me a break
Jimmy has done many great things for the franchise since he got here, considering where this team was before we traded him for a 2nd round pick. Trey has done SQUAT for this team and only resume he has to show is lighting it up against no namers in college, and an impressive outing against KC in the preseason if I'm being generous . Im not sure who the corner they were taking about, the topic was just for A # 1 corner. Could've been prime Deion Sanders for all I care.

ive been rooting for the 49ers for a very long time. I remember sitting right next to the same endzone T.O. did the Pom Pom celebration in the rain back in 2002, and telling Packers fans to "Go back to the trailer parks" at the end of the game when we lost . don't need to prove myself to someone who probably has too much free time

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by thl408:
Please report any posts that require moderator attention. Let's clean this place up.

Like a city broken into different social classes, I think it would be best if each poster depending if they're pro-Jimmy or pro-Trey stay in their respective threads. This argument has been going on the moment Trey was drafted and it's not going to stop until he PROVES to be a top 5 NFL QB. The fanbases is divided

How about you leave the thread if you're unwilling to talk about Jimmy G's play…. the good and the bad.

Same for Trey.

That seems more logical to me.

That's not going to happen…

if the last 5 months isn't enough evidence for you then that's on you.

So let me get this straight…

You've admitted to trolling in the Trey thread but now you want people to stay out of the Jimmy thread because they might troll, just like you did?

Maybe it's people like YOU that should leave these threads.

stop being so barbaric.

Lol. I never knew the "golden rule" was barbaric.

"Treat others how you want to be treated"

That seems like the opposite of barbaric to me.

You've yet to do that judging by your posts

Well let's put this into practice shall we?

You and other Jimmy Stans have told people who say negative things about him are not "real fans"

So even though you've trolled on the Lance thread about trading him for a former 1st round pick corner who's disgruntled and extremely unproven…

I wouldn't say that you're not a real 49ers fan.

Who am I to judge that?

If someone comes at me with something I'm not going back down but I try not to be rude when someone else is being genuine.

I don't get that sense with many Jimmy Stans. They're not having honest discussions when there easily could be.

Apples and oranges dude. Give me a break
Jimmy has done many great things for the franchise since he got here, considering where this team was before we traded him for a 2nd round pick. Trey has done SQUAT for this team and only resume he has to show is lighting it up against no namers in college. Im not sure who the corner they were taking about, the topic was just for A # 1 corner. Could've been prime Deion Sanders for all I care.

ive been rooting for the 49ers for a very long time. I remember sitting right next to the same endzone T.O. did the Pom Pom celebration in the rain back in 2002, and telling Packers fans to "Go back to the trailer parks" at the end of the game when we lost . don't need to prove myself to someone who probably has too much free time

I thought the discussion was about trading for CJ Henderson? If it wasn't then that's my mistake.

I don't get what your point is with saying that. You're trying to justify telling other people they aren't real 49ers fans by saying you were at a game in 2002?

Btw I was at that game too. I was at nearly every home and playoff game from 1999-2007.

That doesn't mean I get to tell people they aren't real fans.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by thl408:
Please report any posts that require moderator attention. Let's clean this place up.

Like a city broken into different social classes, I think it would be best if each poster depending if they're pro-Jimmy or pro-Trey stay in their respective threads. This argument has been going on the moment Trey was drafted and it's not going to stop until he PROVES to be a top 5 NFL QB. The fanbases is divided

How about you leave the thread if you're unwilling to talk about Jimmy G's play…. the good and the bad.

Same for Trey.

That seems more logical to me.

That's not going to happen…

if the last 5 months isn't enough evidence for you then that's on you.

So let me get this straight…

You've admitted to trolling in the Trey thread but now you want people to stay out of the Jimmy thread because they might troll, just like you did?

Maybe it's people like YOU that should leave these threads.

stop being so barbaric.

Lol. I never knew the "golden rule" was barbaric.

"Treat others how you want to be treated"

That seems like the opposite of barbaric to me.

You've yet to do that judging by your posts

Well let's put this into practice shall we?

You and other Jimmy Stans have told people who say negative things about him are not "real fans"

So even though you've trolled on the Lance thread about trading him for a former 1st round pick corner who's disgruntled and extremely unproven…

I wouldn't say that you're not a real 49ers fan.

Who am I to judge that?

If someone comes at me with something I'm not going back down but I try not to be rude when someone else is being genuine.

I don't get that sense with many Jimmy Stans. They're not having honest discussions when there easily could be.

Apples and oranges dude. Give me a break
Jimmy has done many great things for the franchise since he got here, considering where this team was before we traded him for a 2nd round pick. Trey has done SQUAT for this team and only resume he has to show is lighting it up against no namers in college. Im not sure who the corner they were taking about, the topic was just for A # 1 corner. Could've been prime Deion Sanders for all I care.

ive been rooting for the 49ers for a very long time. I remember sitting right next to the same endzone T.O. did the Pom Pom celebration in the rain back in 2002, and telling Packers fans to "Go back to the trailer parks" at the end of the game when we lost . don't need to prove myself to someone who probably has too much free time

I thought the discussion was about trading for CJ Henderson? If it wasn't then that's my mistake.

I don't get what your point is with saying that. You're trying to justify telling other people they aren't real 49ers fans by saying you were at a game in 2002?

Btw I was at that game too. I was at nearly every home and playoff game from 1999-2007.

That doesn't mean I get to tell people they aren't real fans.

I don't recall ever saying anyone who criticizes Jimmy "fake fans" NY85 is someone who's posts I enjoy even though I couldn't disagree with him anymore on the QB position. There are a few ridiculous fans I've seen here, but I've muted most of them, when they have really bad takes or temper tantrums on the the Internet because Jimmy doesn't meet their unrealistic standard for the position. Jimmy has done more good than bad for this team, and imo as a fanbase we should have his back until he's no longer a 49er, not throw him under the bus for a QB we know mostly nothing about yet .

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I don't recall ever saying anyone who criticizes Jimmy "fake fans" NY85 is someone who's posts I enjoy even though I couldn't disagree with him anymore on the QB position. There are a few ridiculous fans I've seen here, but I've muted most of them, when they have really bad takes or temper tantrums on the the Internet because Jimmy doesn't meet their unrealistic standard for the position. Jimmy has done more good than bad for this team, and imo as a fanbase we should have his back until he's no longer a 49er, not throw him under the bus for a QB we know mostly nothing about yet .

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I don't recall ever saying anyone who criticizes Jimmy "fake fans" NY85 is someone who's posts I enjoy even though I couldn't disagree with him anymore on the QB position. There are a few ridiculous fans I've seen here, but I've muted most of them, when they have really bad takes or temper tantrums on the the Internet because Jimmy doesn't meet their unrealistic standard for the position. Jimmy has done more good than bad for this team, and imo as a fanbase we should have his back until he's no longer a 49er, not throw him under the bus for a QB we know mostly nothing about yet .

He's on the biggest trolls on here. Who the hell is he trying to kid

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I don't recall ever saying anyone who criticizes Jimmy "fake fans" NY85 is someone who's posts I enjoy even though I couldn't disagree with him anymore on the QB position. There are a few ridiculous fans I've seen here, but I've muted most of them, when they have really bad takes or temper tantrums on the the Internet because Jimmy doesn't meet their unrealistic standard for the position. Jimmy has done more good than bad for this team, and imo as a fanbase we should have his back until he's no longer a 49er, not throw him under the bus for a QB we know mostly nothing about yet .

Show me where I said "Jimmy critics are fake 49ers fans" and I'll stop posting until the end of the season

if Jimmy isn't getting it done then he needs to hold the clip board, and I'm a staunch Jimmysexual... but I do think there is a Trey vs Jimmy thing going on with the fan base on here from what I have seen... the Lancers love their dude and will defend him at all costs to the point of Treyscuses, but I don't see that with most of the Jimmy lovers... to me that is the big difference between the two, don't you dare criticize baby Trey or you will have hell to pay, but if Jimmy isn't producing then he is fair game for criticism as far as I'm concerned

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
What you're not understanding is that the fact he lined up on the wrong side from the play call doesn't affect the processing Jimmy did how the play was ran. All it does it make him look better because it went from a half field, 3 concept read to a whole field read.

He did it in less than 2.5 seconds throwing a pinpoint throw.

You're trying to diminish my analysis of it but you're not countering it with any pertinent information to the events per my analysis

No... Just your opinion of it (only a handful of QBs can make this play?... that was almost a busted play),...not your analysis. Two completely different things.

The rhetoric I just mentioned...I am clearly dead set against if you were referring to this particular play...especially now given Deebo's comments about it.

Deebo hasn't said anything to what you're claiming, why do you keep digging that hole lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Deebo hasn't said anything to what you're claiming, why do you keep digging that hole lol

He has (I already covered it).

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Deebo hasn't said anything to what you're claiming, why do you keep digging that hole lol

He has (I already covered it).

nope, no where did he say it was luck, bad execution or anything of sorts.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Luck, did the pass bounce off a few players and landed in deebos hands or something?

No. Deebo lined up on the wrong side and an inexperienced WR that played for the Cardinals last year had to ad lib:

"It's the same kind of route but the outside receivers, you go back and look at the play, we was kind of communicating before the ball was snapped, and Trent [Sherfield] being the pro that he is, he knew I lined up wrong, so he had to change his route. And he knew what the concept was, so we just made it happen."

Where's the luck?

sounds like great adjustments and execution by our players

You just answered your own question regarding adjustment.

A guy lining up on the wrong side for a play design, however, will never be great execution. The outcome was great,... Not the execution. As we know though, you will not stop at convincing yourself that falsehoods are facts.

What.. dude I'm debating your luck statement. Not one time did you answer why you said it was luck

talk about falsehoods lol

He lined up wrong. That's not great play execution fella. Sorry.

It's not by Deebo - maybe you should go make that point in the Deebo thread.

Bingo

I'm more impressed that Jimmy still targeted Deebo and hit him in stride even though Deebo wasn't supposed to be there.

impromptu, improvisation and execution

works for Mahommes and Hill all the time

Yeah but he hit Deebo in rhythm of the play. This wasn't an out of structure play.

this is what you're looking for.

boom

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Deebo hasn't said anything to what you're claiming, why do you keep digging that hole lol

He has (I already covered it).

nope, no where did he say it was luck, bad execution or anything of sorts.

1) You're not even reading at this point but I didn't say it was luck. I did say we're lucky it wasn't a wasted play. 2 completely different things to say and you're just replying for the sake of replying.

2) If he lined up on the wrong side, he's confirmed for me at least that the play wasn't executed great, but we had a great outcome. Anytime a player is in a completely different spot than where he was supposed to line up and at least 1 of the other 10 guys have to adjust, the definition of the word execution is going to have me say execution was lacking,...lol I dont have the power to change what words mean.

You're more of the type to mix words like bad in (I never said bad, so 0 for 2 in this post and you're just fishing) and adapt what words mean to whichever way you were already leaning but that's just not me.

It's the usual you, but I gotta admit I find it comical that you can't simply admit such obvious, "no duh" truths like simply admitting the play wasn't executed as diagrammed when Deebo's already said such, though.

Tomorrow I guess you'll come back and claim that I said it was a bad play.

Originally posted by random49er:

1) You're not even reading at this point but I didn't say it was luck. I did say we're lucky it wasn't a wasted play. 2 completely different things to say and you're just replying for the sake of replying.

lol revisionism. let's revisit...

Originally posted by random49er:

Kinda knocks the wind out of your sails a little bit with all of that stock put into the greatness of it then finding out we just got lucky on that one. But yea that's where veteran leadership comes into play to help win a close one.

I did say we're lucky it wasn't a wasted play.

no you didn't