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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Hey there's no doubt that Jimmy's played on the crappy side since the Seattle game. No excuse making he just hasn't done as well as he could. I'm a big Jimmy fan and I fully admit that. Now do I blame the guy playing like he's ghosted since his head coach has publicly stated that he has no confidence in Jimmy and the franchise has treated him like a houseguest that wouldn't leave? I think none of that is really helped. And I also think that Jimmy he's the kind of guy that can put together the bread-and-butter performance that we need to beat mediocre teams. So still hoping for that. Kia Soul turnovers. The turnovers have to get pretty close to zero for us too control games the way we need to.

I was a big Jimmy fan when we first got him. Then he got hurt in 2018 but came back strong in 2019. YThen another injury. My confidence in him started waning.

It now looks to me like he isn't the guy that came here in 2017. He knows the offense better but he seems more tentative than ever. I don't know whether he's bothered by the fact that Trey is looking over his shoulder. He could be but there were a lot of his fans that said he would respond to the challenge and have a big year in 2021. He hasn't so far and I'm afraid his trade value is going down with every loss.

Unfortunately, I think Jimmy under Kyles system has been figured out. It took some time but the analysts got him, and we know it too. Some of us are hoping it's a mental thing that he suddenly snaps out of, but it appears much more than that as he's been exposed.

He can't hit a deep pass, and he doesn't throw well to the sticks and sidelines. His preference is short and over the middle. Great for the RAC yards of Deebo and Kittle, but the D can squat/bunch up the middle making it harder to run, and the corners can play man knowing Jimmy won't throw deep to the sides. Someone has posted throw patterns for JG and the stats all confirm this. Jimmy will continue to lose games while the good defenses force him to overcome his weakness. Kyle and John know this and it's why they drafted Lance who allowed us more WR sets and an unaccounted QB who can run at any time for quick yards. Jimmy is a statue that requires extra protection(extra TE) less WR sets and lately he's been holding the ball way too long.

A lot of good observations there, but I'm not quite ready to give up on Jimmy's deep ball and sideline throws. i feel like jimmy can throw a professional ball 30 yards, regardless of whether its over the middle or wide. I think that we can scheme some of that for jimmy to set up wide timing with the receiver room we have this year. At least four guys who can catch it --sherfield sanu aiyuk deebo. That's two more than we've ever had.

Now, here is my coaching 101 question. Kyle is so smart, he knows what jimmy is going to do wrong before he does it. So my guess is jimmy gets no live reps on his "weak" throws, and probably not too many in practice either. Is that right or wrong? This situation might be an amplifier of jimmy's problems. I think he would have more confidence in these play calls -- when they come up -- if kyle gave him reps in those spots and worked with him to get better in these areas, and called them during the game when the play call was the solution to the problem posed by the defending idea. I think jimmy's confidence would be up and he would know what he has to do to win the rep.

Does that make any sense or is kyle integrating those kinds of plays in the prep and game day plans.
[ Edited by brodiebluebanaszak on Oct 30, 2021 at 11:36 AM ]
I had faith in you Jimmy, and you broke my heart

f**k you
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I had faith in you Jimmy, and you broke my heart

f**k you

Harshhhhhh
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I had faith in you Jimmy, and you broke my heart

f**k you

Harshhhhhh

But true.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Hey there's no doubt that Jimmy's played on the crappy side since the Seattle game. No excuse making he just hasn't done as well as he could. I'm a big Jimmy fan and I fully admit that. Now do I blame the guy playing like he's ghosted since his head coach has publicly stated that he has no confidence in Jimmy and the franchise has treated him like a houseguest that wouldn't leave? I think none of that is really helped. And I also think that Jimmy he's the kind of guy that can put together the bread-and-butter performance that we need to beat mediocre teams. So still hoping for that. Kia Soul turnovers. The turnovers have to get pretty close to zero for us too control games the way we need to.

I was a big Jimmy fan when we first got him. Then he got hurt in 2018 but came back strong in 2019. YThen another injury. My confidence in him started waning.

It now looks to me like he isn't the guy that came here in 2017. He knows the offense better but he seems more tentative than ever. I don't know whether he's bothered by the fact that Trey is looking over his shoulder. He could be but there were a lot of his fans that said he would respond to the challenge and have a big year in 2021. He hasn't so far and I'm afraid his trade value is going down with every loss.

Unfortunately, I think Jimmy under Kyles system has been figured out. It took some time but the analysts got him, and we know it too. Some of us are hoping it's a mental thing that he suddenly snaps out of, but it appears much more than that as he's been exposed.

He can't hit a deep pass, and he doesn't throw well to the sticks and sidelines. His preference is short and over the middle. Great for the RAC yards of Deebo and Kittle, but the D can squat/bunch up the middle making it harder to run, and the corners can play man knowing Jimmy won't throw deep to the sides. Someone has posted throw patterns for JG and the stats all confirm this. Jimmy will continue to lose games while the good defenses force him to overcome his weakness. Kyle and John know this and it's why they drafted Lance who allowed us more WR sets and an unaccounted QB who can run at any time for quick yards. Jimmy is a statue that requires extra protection(extra TE) less WR sets and lately he's been holding the ball way too long.

A lot of good observations there, but I'm not quite ready to give up on Jimmy's deep ball and sideline throws. i feel like jimmy can throw a professional ball 30 yards, regardless of whether its over the middle or wide. I think that we can scheme some of that for jimmy to set up wide timing with the receiver room we have this year. At least four guys who can catch it --sherfield sanu aiyuk deebo. That's two more than we've ever had.

Now, here is my coaching 101 question. Kyle is so smart, he knows what jimmy is going to do wrong before he does it. So my guess is jimmy gets no live reps on his "weak" throws, and probably not too many in practice either. Is that right or wrong? This situation might be an amplifier of jimmy's problems. I think he would have more confidence in these play calls -- when they come up -- if kyle gave him reps in those spots and worked with him to get better in these areas, and called them during the game when the play call was the solution to the problem posed by the defending idea. I think jimmy's confidence would be up and he would know what he has to do to win the rep.

Does that make any sense or is kyle integrating those kinds of plays in the prep and game day plans.

I believe Jimmy does not have a noodle arm. He loses accuracy on deep throws half the time because he slips into bad mechanics mode (which makes his arm effectively weak, but not truly weak), and he is hesitant to throw deep (especially towards the sideline) because he's had interceptions (due to bad field vision) and because he's been creamed so many times (due to subpar pass protection).

So, Jimmy's lack of deep ball isn't because he has too weak of an arm. It's mechanics and experience (INTs and being smashed behind our patchwork line too many times).
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I had faith in you Jimmy, and you broke my heart

f**k you

Harshhhhhh

But true.

Season isn't over yet. He might be able to salvage his season yet. Currently his INT% is only a little worse than 2019.
i wouldnt mind seeing jimmy come back from the dead.

Shanny needs to figure out the running game now that everyione is stacking the edge against him'.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Hey there's no doubt that Jimmy's played on the crappy side since the Seattle game. No excuse making he just hasn't done as well as he could. I'm a big Jimmy fan and I fully admit that. Now do I blame the guy playing like he's ghosted since his head coach has publicly stated that he has no confidence in Jimmy and the franchise has treated him like a houseguest that wouldn't leave? I think none of that is really helped. And I also think that Jimmy he's the kind of guy that can put together the bread-and-butter performance that we need to beat mediocre teams. So still hoping for that. Kia Soul turnovers. The turnovers have to get pretty close to zero for us too control games the way we need to.

I was a big Jimmy fan when we first got him. Then he got hurt in 2018 but came back strong in 2019. YThen another injury. My confidence in him started waning.

It now looks to me like he isn't the guy that came here in 2017. He knows the offense better but he seems more tentative than ever. I don't know whether he's bothered by the fact that Trey is looking over his shoulder. He could be but there were a lot of his fans that said he would respond to the challenge and have a big year in 2021. He hasn't so far and I'm afraid his trade value is going down with every loss.

Unfortunately, I think Jimmy under Kyles system has been figured out. It took some time but the analysts got him, and we know it too. Some of us are hoping it's a mental thing that he suddenly snaps out of, but it appears much more than that as he's been exposed.

He can't hit a deep pass, and he doesn't throw well to the sticks and sidelines. His preference is short and over the middle. Great for the RAC yards of Deebo and Kittle, but the D can squat/bunch up the middle making it harder to run, and the corners can play man knowing Jimmy won't throw deep to the sides. Someone has posted throw patterns for JG and the stats all confirm this. Jimmy will continue to lose games while the good defenses force him to overcome his weakness. Kyle and John know this and it's why they drafted Lance who allowed us more WR sets and an unaccounted QB who can run at any time for quick yards. Jimmy is a statue that requires extra protection(extra TE) less WR sets and lately he's been holding the ball way too long.

Sneaky blaming Kyle when each and every week Kyle is scheming points up on the board that Jimmy and the rest of the offense aren't executing. It by no means is all Jimmy, but Kyle is scheming touchdowns open (exhibit A: touchdown to Aiyuk, messed up by the tight end getting owned in pass protection).

If "Jimmy and the rest of the offense aren't executing" doesn't that mean there is something wrong with the system and the coaching? If it is one or two players not executing that is different. But we all know it is more then one or two. IE pass protection and run blocking aren't optimal are they?
Originally posted by Goatie:
If "Jimmy and the rest of the offense aren't executing" doesn't that mean there is something wrong with the system and the coaching? If it is one or two players not executing that is different. But we all know it is more then one or two. IE pass protection and run blocking aren't optimal are they?

Depends on what optimal is defined is.

Jimmy's just been subpar/below average. Let's see if it changes.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Hey there's no doubt that Jimmy's played on the crappy side since the Seattle game. No excuse making he just hasn't done as well as he could. I'm a big Jimmy fan and I fully admit that. Now do I blame the guy playing like he's ghosted since his head coach has publicly stated that he has no confidence in Jimmy and the franchise has treated him like a houseguest that wouldn't leave? I think none of that is really helped. And I also think that Jimmy he's the kind of guy that can put together the bread-and-butter performance that we need to beat mediocre teams. So still hoping for that. Kia Soul turnovers. The turnovers have to get pretty close to zero for us too control games the way we need to.

I was a big Jimmy fan when we first got him. Then he got hurt in 2018 but came back strong in 2019. YThen another injury. My confidence in him started waning.

It now looks to me like he isn't the guy that came here in 2017. He knows the offense better but he seems more tentative than ever. I don't know whether he's bothered by the fact that Trey is looking over his shoulder. He could be but there were a lot of his fans that said he would respond to the challenge and have a big year in 2021. He hasn't so far and I'm afraid his trade value is going down with every loss.

Unfortunately, I think Jimmy under Kyles system has been figured out. It took some time but the analysts got him, and we know it too. Some of us are hoping it's a mental thing that he suddenly snaps out of, but it appears much more than that as he's been exposed.

He can't hit a deep pass, and he doesn't throw well to the sticks and sidelines. His preference is short and over the middle. Great for the RAC yards of Deebo and Kittle, but the D can squat/bunch up the middle making it harder to run, and the corners can play man knowing Jimmy won't throw deep to the sides. Someone has posted throw patterns for JG and the stats all confirm this. Jimmy will continue to lose games while the good defenses force him to overcome his weakness. Kyle and John know this and it's why they drafted Lance who allowed us more WR sets and an unaccounted QB who can run at any time for quick yards. Jimmy is a statue that requires extra protection(extra TE) less WR sets and lately he's been holding the ball way too long.

A lot of good observations there, but I'm not quite ready to give up on Jimmy's deep ball and sideline throws. i feel like jimmy can throw a professional ball 30 yards, regardless of whether its over the middle or wide. I think that we can scheme some of that for jimmy to set up wide timing with the receiver room we have this year. At least four guys who can catch it --sherfield sanu aiyuk deebo. That's two more than we've ever had.

Now, here is my coaching 101 question. Kyle is so smart, he knows what jimmy is going to do wrong before he does it. So my guess is jimmy gets no live reps on his "weak" throws, and probably not too many in practice either. Is that right or wrong? This situation might be an amplifier of jimmy's problems. I think he would have more confidence in these play calls -- when they come up -- if kyle gave him reps in those spots and worked with him to get better in these areas, and called them during the game when the play call was the solution to the problem posed by the defending idea. I think jimmy's confidence would be up and he would know what he has to do to win the rep.

Does that make any sense or is kyle integrating those kinds of plays in the prep and game day plans.

Jimmy can't throw a "professional" ball 30 yards outside the sticks. The throw charts are painfully obvious. John and Kyle are literally sacrificing the season for trade value.
The blame Jimmy game is hilarious. Niners have muchhhh bigger problems than this dude. Shanahan's record over the last 5 years when Jimmy doesn't play shows that.

But hey, keep believing that the York's, Shanahan, and Lynch are being held back by Jimmy. It's not the fact that they make terrible decision after terrible decision. Once we get rid of Alex Smith, I mean Jimmy, all will be right with the world.
JG about to go ham sandwich bananas 350+ yds 4 touchdowns the entire NFL will be put on notice
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
JG about to go ham sandwich bananas 350+ yds 4 touchdowns the entire NFL will be put on notice

Jimmy about to start his last game for the 49ers
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Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I had faith in you Jimmy, and you broke my heart

f**k you

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
JG about to go ham sandwich bananas 350+ yds 4 touchdowns the entire NFL will be put on notice

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