Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Joecool:
What do you guys think, JG to the Saints!!?

Clown post. This isn't Madden you can't just trade for a QB to fill a short term need for QB. What he's going to absorb the Saints system in 4 days? Gimme a break. Don't they have Taysom Hill on roster?

lol wait didn't we do exactly that with Jimmy in 2017

Fact check false. We weren't acquiring QB to fill a short term need. We were acquiring our franchise QB of the future. This would be a winning team acquiring a stop gap QB as a knee jerk reaction to a sudden major injury. Totally different scenarios.

Not really. Quite a few ? about Winston still, and if the Saints drank at the same bar as Lynch and Shanahan, there's a good chance they could see Grappy as a long term answer.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Must've missed it. I apologize I don't believe in any stat that starts with intended. Lol a star based off of intentions not reality.

Yeah you did…it's Average Intended Air Yards, which is basically depth of target. Jimmy yesterday in a win had 9.3 IAY which is by far his best number this yr and one of his highest since being in SF.

Playcalling made a difference yesterday.

Having time to throw from the pocket made the difference. Not play calling.

Those same plays have been called all year.

You're both right. Not having to block Khalil Mack made a big difference in the success of the plays. But Kyle also called a spread offensive game plan with numerous receiving options too. While the plays are similar, there were numerous more options at all 3 levels. 3-4 WR sets, RB's and TE's all out in routes, simple shotgun, I'm not sure if we ran one PA with the QB's back to the OL, RPO's, etc. Like with Trey, Kyle created a Jimmy game plan.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
A 50 yard bomb skews the numbers LMAO

Are you confused about the stat like you are about every mobile QB getting hurt this year? Hehe.

No I just understand that this stat is about attempts. Just like I understand that statistical evidence says running QBs don't get injured more.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I come in here and ya'll are still talking air yards.

Let's talk about WHY Jimmy looked so comfortable.

For the first time in his entire 9er career, Kyle called a spread offensive game plan with the most 3 and 4 WR sets I've ever seen. Shotgun. Limited, if any PA passes with his back to the OL. Both RB's and TE's were available receivers and not staying in to help with pass protection.

In short, he just got to sit back there and pick his open receiver (his entire career outside of here in SF) including off schedule plays (2017).

With Mitchell rolling now and Hasty as the 3rd down pass catcher and Kittle potentially coming back, the only question is, "Will Kyle stay with a spread offense going forward and keep ALL of these receiving options out in routes?"

Shanahan has called empty sets all season. The difference this game was that Mitchell was gaining some 7 yards per carry and our pass protection took the Bears defense's lunch money.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
A 50 yard bomb skews the numbers LMAO

Are you confused about the stat like you are about every mobile QB getting hurt this year? Hehe.

No I just understand that this stat is about attempts. Just like I understand that statistical evidence says running QBs don't get injured more.

Can you pinpoint me to where it's an actual stat? I can't find it anywhere outside if fantasy and betting sites

Originally posted by NCommand:
No s**t.

Throwing ONE 55 yard ball IN the air will always skew the averaged stat because the number of throws are minimal in the overall sample. Like Trey's TD to Deebo.

Just like throwing a bunch of balls at or behind the LOS skews it as well but in the other direction.

And at the end of the day, it still means nothing. If anything, it tells you more about the OC's game plan, primary receiving routes, HC philosophy and the "deep" personnel than anything about the QB himself.

Nobody ever argued we shouldn't be taking more deeper shots. Nobody.

Then what the hell are you arguing about lol? I can only think of one passing offense that was consistently successful when they were bottom of the league in IAY and that was the Saints and that's because Brees is one of the most accurate QBs in NFL history (and he was still higher than Jimmy) PLUS it's not just scheme/HC philosophy (like you constantly say) because Winston is currently 3rd in the league in IAY.

The whole point is take a damn shot every once in a while, take advantage of the rules, let your players have a chance. Everyone says the plays are never dialed up and I simply do not agree with that. The QB absolutely plays a big part in it and it's dumb to think he's not.

Hold a defense accountable for god sake. Deebo and BA are deep threats if someone actually let them be and I simply refuse to believe if Mahomes or Allen were Kyle's QBs that they would be bottom of the league in IAY and there's not a damn thing you can say to change my mind there.

Made up stat. Pretty much every link is to a fantasy explain or betting. Dumbest stat in the history of the world

Googles what is average air yards

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what are air yards

you can also google a lot of other stats and FF stuff will come up.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Must've missed it. I apologize I don't believe in any stat that starts with intended. Lol a star based off of intentions not reality.

Yeah you did…it's Average Intended Air Yards, which is basically depth of target. Jimmy yesterday in a win had 9.3 IAY which is by far his best number this yr and one of his highest since being in SF.

Playcalling made a difference yesterday.

Having time to throw from the pocket made the difference. Not play calling.

Those same plays have been called all year.

This. I saw nothing unusual in the play calls. I DID see unsually good pass protection.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
No s**t.

Throwing ONE 55 yard ball IN the air will always skew the averaged stat because the number of throws are minimal in the overall sample. Like Trey's TD to Deebo.

Just like throwing a bunch of balls at or behind the LOS skews it as well but in the other direction.

And at the end of the day, it still means nothing. If anything, it tells you more about the OC's game plan, primary receiving routes, HC philosophy and the "deep" personnel than anything about the QB himself.

Nobody ever argued we shouldn't be taking more deeper shots. Nobody.

Then what the hell are you arguing about lol? I can only think of one passing offense that was consistently successful when they were bottom of the league in IAY and that was the Saints and that's because Brees is one of the most accurate QBs in NFL history (and he was still higher than Jimmy) PLUS it's not just scheme/HC philosophy (like you constantly say) because Winston is currently 3rd in the league in IAY.

The whole point is take a damn shot every once in a while, take advantage of the rules, let your players have a chance. Everyone says the play are never dialed up and I simply do not agree with that. The QB absolutely plays a big part in it and it's dumb to think he's not.

Hold a defense accountable for god sake. Deebo and BA are deep threats if someone actually let them be.

The last 4 losses all involved throwing 3- 4 deep balls each game and all were DPIs. LeFleur and ARodgers did it, as well as AZ, etc. Only WE did not do it. That is coaching decision, no more , no less. Throw it deep and look for a flag. Why kyle didn't do that, when 4 teams in a row did it to us…IDK.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what are air yards

you can also google a lot of other stats and FF stuff will come up.

Or you could help me and link me to where it has any metric on an outcome of games. It's made up. I'd love to see where you guys get your info that the possibility of having air yards has an impact on a game.

Lololol yeah right

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what is average air yards

now your just googling what is IAY lol. Yeah next gen stats is just making stuff up. Your right avg depth of target isn't real life.

Hey man just say you don't like analytics. Just say you don't like any stat that doesn't make your hero look great, it's pretty clear you get super offend when anyone points out anything critical of him.

I guess I can just say any stat I don't like is made up

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
No s**t.

Throwing ONE 55 yard ball IN the air will always skew the averaged stat because the number of throws are minimal in the overall sample. Like Trey's TD to Deebo.

Just like throwing a bunch of balls at or behind the LOS skews it as well but in the other direction.

And at the end of the day, it still means nothing. If anything, it tells you more about the OC's game plan, primary receiving routes, HC philosophy and the "deep" personnel than anything about the QB himself.

Nobody ever argued we shouldn't be taking more deeper shots. Nobody.

Then what the hell are you arguing about lol? I can only think of one passing offense that was consistently successful when they were bottom of the league in IAY and that was the Saints and that's because Brees is one of the most accurate QBs in NFL history (and he was still higher than Jimmy) PLUS it's not just scheme/HC philosophy (like you constantly say) because Winston is currently 3rd in the league in IAY.

The whole point is take a damn shot every once in a while, take advantage of the rules, let your players have a chance. Everyone says the play are never dialed up and I simply do not agree with that. The QB absolutely plays a big part in it and it's dumb to think he's not.

Hold a defense accountable for god sake. Deebo and BA are deep threats if someone actually let them be.

The last 4 losses all involved throwing 3- 4 deep balls each game and all were DPIs. LeFleur and ARodgers did it, as well as AZ, etc. Only WE did not do it. That is coaching decision, no more , no less. Throw it deep and look for a flag. Why kyle didn't do that, when 4 teams in a row did it to us…IDK.

So Kyle DOES do it. We just don't execute. Look at the Colts game and Aiyuk's double move. Except the TE failed to block his man and the ball ended up floating to Deebo.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Or you could help me and link me to where it has any metric on an outcome

Lololol yeah right

It's a metric of what a QB is asked to do...it's no different then saying what a WRs depth of route run is or their yards after catch.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what are air yards

you can also google a lot of other stats and FF stuff will come up.

Or you could help me and link me to where it has any metric on an outcome of games. It's made up. I'd love to see where you guys get your info that the possibility of having air yards has an impact on a game.

Lololol yeah right

This stat is nothing but average depth of target. If you think that's "made up" and tells nothing it's because you don't understand the game.