Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
A 50 yard bomb skews the numbers LMAO

Are you confused about the stat like you are about every mobile QB getting hurt this year? Hehe.

No I just understand that this stat is about attempts. Just like I understand that statistical evidence says running QBs don't get injured more.

Can you pinpoint me to where it's an actual stat? I can't find it anywhere outside if fantasy and betting sites

What stat, intended air yards?

**Edit** nevermind I see this is already being discussed. Just say you hate stats that dont back up your position and there will be less arguing with you on here. Jesus.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what is average air yards

now your just googling what is IAY lol. Yeah next gen stats is just making stuff up. Your right avg depth of target isn't real life.

Hey man just say you don't like analytics. Just say you don't like any stat that doesn't make your hero look great, it's pretty clear you get super offend when anyone points out anything critical of him.

I guess I can just say any stat I don't like is made up

Ok... If I'm wrong show me the metrics that IAY means anything at all. Link me please to where IAY equates to points or anything... A single meaningful thing.

Lol Google doesn't even know

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what is average air yards

now your just googling what is IAY lol. Yeah next gen stats is just making stuff up. Your right avg depth of target isn't real life.

Hey man just say you don't like analytics. Just say you don't like any stat that doesn't make your hero look great, it's pretty clear you get super offend when anyone points out anything critical of him.

I guess I can just say any stat I don't like is made up

This. This is all it is.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
The last 4 losses all involved throwing 3- 4 deep balls each game and all were DPIs. LeFleur and ARodgers did it, as well as AZ, etc. Only WE did not do it. That is coaching decision, no more , no less. Throw it deep and look for a flag. Why kyle didn't do that, when 4 teams in a row did it to us…IDK.

Show me where Kyle didn't do that? Show me not one single WR running downfield over 20 yards in any of those games?

It's all about executing the damn plays and actually throwing the ball downfield. Kyle can't throw the ball too.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Well, for one, they now have NO picks rds 1-5. Check that out…according to GMFB. Still, it now makes them the team to beat in the SB. Compare that to two firsts and a swap up our 12th (or 13th) 1st for a 1 yr qb from a small school division that hasn't played in 2 yrs. Looking at it like that it makes the Trey trade look pretty iffy. I thot we were staying pat, and would take either Fields, Mack JOnes, or maybe Mund at #12 , whoever was there. Would have been insurance for jimmy, and given us perhaps a new QB further down the road. I like trey, just not at #3 and for 2 1sts plus our 1st rd pick for theirs.

Trey at #12 would have been a good pick for me. Same for Fields or Mack jones. Looking at the Rams picks in last couple yrs, it is obvious they want to win right now, and let the future ride. Will be interesting to see how this works out , several yrs down the pike. Wouldn''t you know we still have to play them twice now with Donald, Jalen , ?Foy?, and now Von Miller. That hurts. Word is Denver is paying his salary balance of this yr, also. Maybe those 1st rd (unknown or uncertain ) picks aren't as valuable as we all thot.

It doesn't matter where we picked Trey. If hes a franchise QB, it was a steal. A franchise QB is worth ten 1sts. People need to get over the price to move up and pick the guy you're convicted about. Fields has looked like trash this year outside of the 1st half yesterday. Mac Jones is the next Andy Dalton, and basically just a younger version of Garoppolo. Im not going to even address the Kellen Mond at 12 part. 🙄

Lance is raw, but he seems to have it ALL. Everything you'd want in a young franchise QB. He just needs time to learn, and he will gradually get more in game reps as he gets more ready. You don't throw him in before he's ready, and you don't talk crap about him for needing time to get up to speed at his age and experience level. Shanahan is going at the right pace. He's protecting a tremendous asset by doing it the right way. Most high draft pick rookie QB's are forced into action too early because the team blows and the coach is desperate to save his job. He plays the guy out of desperation.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what is average air yards

now your just googling what is IAY lol. Yeah next gen stats is just making stuff up. Your right avg depth of target isn't real life.

Hey man just say you don't like analytics. Just say you don't like any stat that doesn't make your hero look great, it's pretty clear you get super offend when anyone points out anything critical of him.

I guess I can just say any stat I don't like is made up

This. This is all it is.

Yet you can't even explain or show a single metric, of any sort, not one that IAY benefits a team...

How could you possibly know if you can't show me a single metric in the sport of football that IAY benefits a QB in any way? I'm not asking a lot.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Ok... If I'm wrong show me the metrics that IAY means anything at all. Link me please to where IAY equates to points or anything... A single meaningful thing.

Lol Google doesn't even know

Show me that yards after catch, depth of route run, yards after contact equates to points or anything?

Why are you so thickheaded? It's quantifiable data that show what a QB is doing. It's just another analytical stat that looks at a PLAYER. It's no different then any damn stat out there.

YET here you are getting so butthurt over it because it's not great for old Jimmy. It doesn't mean he blows, it just showing what he does/asked to do in this scheme, which for the majority of his time here is being near the bottom of the league in depth per target. IF you think it's meaningless you shouldn't be getting so uptight about it

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what is average air yards

now your just googling what is IAY lol. Yeah next gen stats is just making stuff up. Your right avg depth of target isn't real life.

Hey man just say you don't like analytics. Just say you don't like any stat that doesn't make your hero look great, it's pretty clear you get super offend when anyone points out anything critical of him.

I guess I can just say any stat I don't like is made up

Ok... If I'm wrong show me the metrics that IAY means anything at all. Link me please to where IAY equates to points or anything... A single meaningful thing.

Lol Google doesn't even know

Bruh step up your google game. First, actually TYPE intended airyards per attempt. Second, put this next to it:

-fantasy.

That way you can get to the analytics sites that aren't interested in Fantasy Football.

Here's a quick Quara link. The first answer gives the rationale for the stat:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-NFL-statistic-Air-Yards-mean-What-is-its-significance

"One of the developments recently is the attempt to separate the contribution of the receiver from the contribution of the quarterback, so they can be evaluated separately. One way to do that is to separate a passing play into "air yards" (the distance covered while the ball is in the air) and "yards after catch" (the portion of the play the receiver runs after catching the ball).

Consider two 30 yard touchdown catches — a screen pass where the receiver runs it all the way in, or a bomb to a wide open receiver already standing in the end zone. The former would have 0 air yards and 30 yards after catch; the latter would have 30 air yards and 0 yards after catch. YAC seems to have caught on more quickly because it identifies receivers who are good at making their own space with the ball, but air yards matter as well — a quarterback who's got 300 yards by taking chances downfield is probably a better quarterback than a guy who got 300 yards passing by throwing a bunch of 5-yard slants that his receivers turned into big gains; they'd both have 300 yards passing at the end of the day, but the first guy would have more air yards."

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Ok... If I'm wrong show me the metrics that IAY means anything at all. Link me please to where IAY equates to points or anything... A single meaningful thing.

Lol Google doesn't even know

I feel like you are being intentionally obtuse.

If I type in "what is IYA" and that alone, of course random stuff will show up. If I type in "what is YPA" (a stat that EVERY football fan knows), you will get a similar list of random stuff.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Yet you can't even explain or show a single metric, of any sort, not one that IAY benefits a team...

How could you possibly know if you can't show me a single metric in the sport of football that IAY benefits a QB in any way? I'm not asking a lot.

again it's a QB stat just like yards, INT %, or a WR stat like YAC or SEP/TAY. Evaluation of a player....grrr how dare we.

I've googled it myself seriously trying to find anything important about the stat. Anything at all. This is what I find. The best I can find

• IAY: Intended air yards, air yards on all pass attempts, whether complete or incomplete
• Some fantasy footballers use this name interchangeably with average depth of target. NFL defines Average Intended Air Yards (IAY) as "the average Air Yards a passer throws on all attempts. This metric shows how far the ball is being thrown 'downfield'."

What is IAY in football?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Yet you can't even explain or show a single metric, of any sort, not one that IAY benefits a team...

How could you possibly know if you can't show me a single metric in the sport of football that IAY benefits a QB in any way? I'm not asking a lot.

again it's a QB stat just like yards, INT %, or a WR stat like YAC or SEP/TAY. Evaluation of a player....grrr how dare we.

It's your only argument ever yet you can't explain how it impacts a QB game compared to non IYA? If you can't explain that and even show a single metric it benefits a QB how could you possibly know?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what is average air yards

now your just googling what is IAY lol. Yeah next gen stats is just making stuff up. Your right avg depth of target isn't real life.

Hey man just say you don't like analytics. Just say you don't like any stat that doesn't make your hero look great, it's pretty clear you get super offend when anyone points out anything critical of him.

I guess I can just say any stat I don't like is made up

Ok... If I'm wrong show me the metrics that IAY means anything at all. Link me please to where IAY equates to points or anything... A single meaningful thing.

Lol Google doesn't even know

Bruh step up your google game. First, actually TYPE intended airyards per attempt. Second, put this next to it:

-fantasy.

That way you can get to the analytics sites that aren't interested in Fantasy Football.

Here's a quick Quara link. The first answer gives the rationale for the stat:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-NFL-statistic-Air-Yards-mean-What-is-its-significance

"One of the developments recently is the attempt to separate the contribution of the receiver from the contribution of the quarterback, so they can be evaluated separately. One way to do that is to separate a passing play into "air yards" (the distance covered while the ball is in the air) and "yards after catch" (the portion of the play the receiver runs after catching the ball).

Consider two 30 yard touchdown catches — a screen pass where the receiver runs it all the way in, or a bomb to a wide open receiver already standing in the end zone. The former would have 0 air yards and 30 yards after catch; the latter would have 30 air yards and 0 yards after catch. YAC seems to have caught on more quickly because it identifies receivers who are good at making their own space with the ball, but air yards matter as well — a quarterback who's got 300 yards by taking chances downfield is probably a better quarterback than a guy who got 300 yards passing by throwing a bunch of 5-yard slants that his receivers turned into big gains; they'd both have 300 yards passing at the end of the day, but the first guy would have more air yards."

Thank you!

For years one of the golden stats for a QB was YPA BUT that didn't account for YAC. air yards simply takes away the YAC. IAY shows avg depth of each passing attempt regardless of completion.

Like every damn stat our there, it's just another quantifiable data point we can use to evaluate a player

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Made up stat

Googles what is average air yards

now your just googling what is IAY lol. Yeah next gen stats is just making stuff up. Your right avg depth of target isn't real life.

Hey man just say you don't like analytics. Just say you don't like any stat that doesn't make your hero look great, it's pretty clear you get super offend when anyone points out anything critical of him.

I guess I can just say any stat I don't like is made up

Ok... If I'm wrong show me the metrics that IAY means anything at all. Link me please to where IAY equates to points or anything... A single meaningful thing.

Lol Google doesn't even know

Bruh step up your google game. First, actually TYPE intended airyards per attempt. Second, put this next to it:

-fantasy.

That way you can get to the analytics sites that aren't interested in Fantasy Football.

Here's a quick Quara link. The first answer gives the rationale for the stat:

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-NFL-statistic-Air-Yards-mean-What-is-its-significance

"One of the developments recently is the attempt to separate the contribution of the receiver from the contribution of the quarterback, so they can be evaluated separately. One way to do that is to separate a passing play into "air yards" (the distance covered while the ball is in the air) and "yards after catch" (the portion of the play the receiver runs after catching the ball).

Consider two 30 yard touchdown catches — a screen pass where the receiver runs it all the way in, or a bomb to a wide open receiver already standing in the end zone. The former would have 0 air yards and 30 yards after catch; the latter would have 30 air yards and 0 yards after catch. YAC seems to have caught on more quickly because it identifies receivers who are good at making their own space with the ball, but air yards matter as well — a quarterback who's got 300 yards by taking chances downfield is probably a better quarterback than a guy who got 300 yards passing by throwing a bunch of 5-yard slants that his receivers turned into big gains; they'd both have 300 yards passing at the end of the day, but the first guy would have more air yards."

Thank you!

For years one of the golden stats for a QB was YPA BUT that didn't account for YAC. air yards simply takes away the YAC. IAY shows avg depth of each passing attempt regardless of completion.

Like every damn stat our there, it's just another quantifiable data point we can use to evaluate a player

— a quarterback who's got 300 yards by taking chances downfield is probably a better quarterback than a guy who got 300 yards passing by throwing a bunch of 5-yard slants that his receivers turned into big gains; they'd both have 300 yards passing at the end of the day, but the first guy would have more air yards."

Lol "probably". It still explains nothing and says probably lol ffs

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
I've googled it myself seriously trying to find anything important about the stat. Anything at all. This is what I find. The best I can find

• IAY: Intended air yards, air yards on all pass attempts, whether complete or incomplete
• Some fantasy footballers use this name interchangeably with average depth of target. NFL defines Average Intended Air Yards (IAY) as "the average Air Yards a passer throws on all attempts. This metric shows how far the ball is being thrown 'downfield'."

What is IAY in football?

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/189603-qb-jimmy-garoppolo-thread/page5985/#post89763

Put -fantasy in your search.

I don't understand why you can't understand the value of depth of target, and why the best teams on average will probably not be on either extreme (should be obvious: if you never throw deep, defenses will crowd the line and shut down your run game; if you always throw deep, you'll turn the ball over too much and get your QB killed). Not always, of course. Brady led the league in the stat last year and won the Super Bowl. Mahomes was 9th in 2019.

No single stat is going to always be the one that tells you everything. But this DOES tell you SOMETHING.