Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
it was accurate enough to hit the receivers hands and be caught.

/topic

It was high and behind on a slant…you don't throw the ball behind someone who's running the opposite way. Totally catchable but again not a accurate ball.

Different view shows it

Deebo should've caught this but man, you just cannot throw this high and behind when he is wide ass open. pic.twitter.com/Ck31YG7f7z

— Rich (@richjmadrid) November 2, 2021

already looked at this view. and another view. and another. and 15+ pages of discussions about it. and film breakdown from fans about it.

accurate enough, lol.

Accurate enough to be caught, sure. But that ball placement is what separates the really good QBs from the mediocre ones.

most of you in here think he's mediocre anyways so by his standards it's a well-thrown ball, no? bad drop.

Jimmy's made much better throws before. Mediocre means roughly average. That's kind of what he is. Average among the starters. Somewhere in the 14-22 range of QBs. And Deebo is making too much money to not catch that.

right but the consensus with Jimmy overall as a quarterback is mediocre, therefore, by that logic it was a good throw by his standards

I mean when I use the word mediocre to describe him, I mean, so-so, roughly average for starting QBs. And an average starting QB makes a slant. That was a BAD throw for Jimmy in fact, because JIMMY usually nails those.

I use the word mediocre to describe average as well. either way, Jimmy hit that pass. I'm not going to go crazy trying to decipher whether it was deemed bad, mediocre or not. just getting ridiculous at this point lol.

it's subjective. that's why this is so silly. the ball NAILED the receiver's hands. period. if you want to go back and forth and beyond and be all nit picky about exact, specific, myopic ball placement, then by all means have at it

Why is that subjective? You KNOW damned well that ball should have led Deebo and not required him to contort his body. You KNOW that. I don't understand why people play this bs game.

subjective on whether or not the pass was considered bad, mediocre, or good. it was good enough for me. super catchable. considered bad for you based off Jimmy's standards. not in my eyes.

If you can name an NFL QB coach or QB guru NFL QBs go to that says it's better to put a slant there, where the WR has to contort his body, than in front of the WR so he can catch it in stride, I'll never post on this forum again.

not something i care to waste any more time over regarding 1 singular play in what was otherwise a pretty good game for the offense, for once this season. everybody could always have done something better.

Jimmy could've placed it slightly in front of deebo a couple inches more, or, a FOOT in front of him, and guess what? it's still entirely possible deebo STILL could have dropped it

why? cuz s**t happens!

s**t happened on the first play of the game. Slant pass, right Deebo's hands, one foot in front of the numbers - dropped.

wait, is this the same play we are talkin about? was the ball in front of deebo enough?

No it's not the same play. I was talking about how Jimmy did put a slant pass to Deebo one foot in front and he still dropped it. Deebo's hands are inconsistent going back to his rookie year. Ah s**t, I'm a Deebo hater now.

Not a deebo hater here but his current catch rate is his lowest in his career and by a significant percentage.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Lol at Rodgers being in the same tier as Jimmy. Pass that stuff

facts. Rodgers hasn't really been very good this year. They're performing in a comparable fashion.

ANY/A DOES NOT LIE

Not sure If serious.🤔

i'm totally f'ing serious.

Look at ANY/A leaders and who has won the MVP award, going back to the early 80's.

If the MVP is a QB, almost every time he's the clear outlier in ANY/A.

Jimmy Garroppolo is better than haters want to admit, and Rodgers HAS NOT BEEN THAT GOOD this year.

I'm not saying that Jimmy is better, I'm saying that right now, for this season, their performance has been very similarly effective.

I also included Kirk Cousins in this tier. Facts are facts.

I give the over/under on this slant play another 35 pages.

Originally posted by jcs:
Not a deebo hater here but his current catch rate is his lowest in his career and by a significant percentage.

Sure sounds like hater talk to me. This makes you and I in the Deebo Hater club. We need to start recruiting.

Ideally you want to put the ball in front of the receiver so he can catch it in stride in order to maximize the potential gain on the play. However, no qb is going to throw that accuratley everytime. Was it catchable? Yes. The fact that it was dropped leaves both players to blame. Who cares anyway? Spending 2 days talking about one insignificant play is a bit ridiculous, imo.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

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Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
it was accurate enough to hit the receivers hands and be caught.

/topic

It was high and behind on a slant…you don't throw the ball behind someone who's running the opposite way. Totally catchable but again not a accurate ball.

Different view shows it

Deebo should've caught this but man, you just cannot throw this high and behind when he is wide ass open. pic.twitter.com/Ck31YG7f7z

— Rich (@richjmadrid) November 2, 2021

already looked at this view. and another view. and another. and 15+ pages of discussions about it. and film breakdown from fans about it.

accurate enough, lol.

Accurate enough to be caught, sure. But that ball placement is what separates the really good QBs from the mediocre ones.

most of you in here think he's mediocre anyways so by his standards it's a well-thrown ball, no? bad drop.

Jimmy's made much better throws before. Mediocre means roughly average. That's kind of what he is. Average among the starters. Somewhere in the 14-22 range of QBs. And Deebo is making too much money to not catch that.

right but the consensus with Jimmy overall as a quarterback is mediocre, therefore, by that logic it was a good throw by his standards

I mean when I use the word mediocre to describe him, I mean, so-so, roughly average for starting QBs. And an average starting QB makes a slant. That was a BAD throw for Jimmy in fact, because JIMMY usually nails those.

I use the word mediocre to describe average as well. either way, Jimmy hit that pass. I'm not going to go crazy trying to decipher whether it was deemed bad, mediocre or not. just getting ridiculous at this point lol.

it's subjective. that's why this is so silly. the ball NAILED the receiver's hands. period. if you want to go back and forth and beyond and be all nit picky about exact, specific, myopic ball placement, then by all means have at it

Why is that subjective? You KNOW damned well that ball should have led Deebo and not required him to contort his body. You KNOW that. I don't understand why people play this bs game.

subjective on whether or not the pass was considered bad, mediocre, or good. it was good enough for me. super catchable. considered bad for you based off Jimmy's standards. not in my eyes.

If you can name an NFL QB coach or QB guru NFL QBs go to that says it's better to put a slant there, where the WR has to contort his body, than in front of the WR so he can catch it in stride, I'll never post on this forum again.

not something i care to waste any more time over regarding 1 singular play in what was otherwise a pretty good game for the offense, for once this season. everybody could always have done something better.

Jimmy could've placed it slightly in front of deebo a couple inches more, or, a FOOT in front of him, and guess what? it's still entirely possible deebo STILL could have dropped it

why? cuz s**t happens!

s**t happened on the first play of the game. Slant pass, right Deebo's hands, one foot in front of the numbers - dropped.

wait, is this the same play we are talkin about? was the ball in front of deebo enough?

No it's not the same play. I was talking about how Jimmy did put a slant pass to Deebo one foot in front and he still dropped it. Deebo's hands are inconsistent going back to his rookie year. Ah s**t, I'm a Deebo hater now.

so basically deebo's drop with the pass that contorted his body earlier was more of a product of Deebo based off this evidence and the overall game he was having at this point, rather than his drop being product of Jimmy's BAD slant throw. got it.

Deebo sucks. I should have just said that instead of making gifs.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jcs:
Not a deebo hater here but his current catch rate is his lowest in his career and by a significant percentage.

Sure sounds like hater talk to me. This makes you and I in the Deebo Hater club. We need to start recruiting.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jcs:
Not a deebo hater here but his current catch rate is his lowest in his career and by a significant percentage.

Sure sounds like hater talk to me. This makes you and I in the Deebo Hater club. We need to start recruiting.

Any type of criticism towards one of our players on here and you get labelled an hater, especially when the criticism Is aimed against the current QB

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
it was accurate enough to hit the receivers hands and be caught.

/topic

It was high and behind on a slant…you don't throw the ball behind someone who's running the opposite way. Totally catchable but again not a accurate ball.

Different view shows it

Deebo should've caught this but man, you just cannot throw this high and behind when he is wide ass open. pic.twitter.com/Ck31YG7f7z

— Rich (@richjmadrid) November 2, 2021

already looked at this view. and another view. and another. and 15+ pages of discussions about it. and film breakdown from fans about it.

accurate enough, lol.

Accurate enough to be caught, sure. But that ball placement is what separates the really good QBs from the mediocre ones.

most of you in here think he's mediocre anyways so by his standards it's a well-thrown ball, no? bad drop.

Jimmy's made much better throws before. Mediocre means roughly average. That's kind of what he is. Average among the starters. Somewhere in the 14-22 range of QBs. And Deebo is making too much money to not catch that.

right but the consensus with Jimmy overall as a quarterback is mediocre, therefore, by that logic it was a good throw by his standards

I mean when I use the word mediocre to describe him, I mean, so-so, roughly average for starting QBs. And an average starting QB makes a slant. That was a BAD throw for Jimmy in fact, because JIMMY usually nails those.

I use the word mediocre to describe average as well. either way, Jimmy hit that pass. I'm not going to go crazy trying to decipher whether it was deemed bad, mediocre or not. just getting ridiculous at this point lol.

it's subjective. that's why this is so silly. the ball NAILED the receiver's hands. period. if you want to go back and forth and beyond and be all nit picky about exact, specific, myopic ball placement, then by all means have at it

Why is that subjective? You KNOW damned well that ball should have led Deebo and not required him to contort his body. You KNOW that. I don't understand why people play this bs game.

subjective on whether or not the pass was considered bad, mediocre, or good. it was good enough for me. super catchable. considered bad for you based off Jimmy's standards. not in my eyes.

If you can name an NFL QB coach or QB guru NFL QBs go to that says it's better to put a slant there, where the WR has to contort his body, than in front of the WR so he can catch it in stride, I'll never post on this forum again.

he didn't have to contort anything lol.. these haters i swear

Yeah he does. You can tell from the EZ angle. He is clearly having to bend his back, raise his hands, and slow to get it.

All you have to do to end this sort of commentary is say, "Yes, that pass should have been better." You can even add, "But even so, Deebo should have caught it." But you guys are incapable of the slightest criticism of Jimmy.

it's not anyone is incapable, it due to criticising the wrong guy here lol

looks like you are incapable of realizing that

BOTH players deserve criticism. JFC you confirmed exactly what I said.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jcs:
Not a deebo hater here but his current catch rate is his lowest in his career and by a significant percentage.

Sure sounds like hater talk to me. This makes you and I in the Deebo Hater club. We need to start recruiting.

Any type of criticism towards one of our players on here and you get labelled an hater, especially when the criticism Is aimed against the current QB

You know what I'm saying.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
it was accurate enough to hit the receivers hands and be caught.

/topic

It was high and behind on a slant…you don't throw the ball behind someone who's running the opposite way. Totally catchable but again not a accurate ball.

Different view shows it

Deebo should've caught this but man, you just cannot throw this high and behind when he is wide ass open. pic.twitter.com/Ck31YG7f7z

— Rich (@richjmadrid) November 2, 2021

already looked at this view. and another view. and another. and 15+ pages of discussions about it. and film breakdown from fans about it.

accurate enough, lol.

Accurate enough to be caught, sure. But that ball placement is what separates the really good QBs from the mediocre ones.

most of you in here think he's mediocre anyways so by his standards it's a well-thrown ball, no? bad drop.

Jimmy's made much better throws before. Mediocre means roughly average. That's kind of what he is. Average among the starters. Somewhere in the 14-22 range of QBs. And Deebo is making too much money to not catch that.

right but the consensus with Jimmy overall as a quarterback is mediocre, therefore, by that logic it was a good throw by his standards

I mean when I use the word mediocre to describe him, I mean, so-so, roughly average for starting QBs. And an average starting QB makes a slant. That was a BAD throw for Jimmy in fact, because JIMMY usually nails those.

I use the word mediocre to describe average as well. either way, Jimmy hit that pass. I'm not going to go crazy trying to decipher whether it was deemed bad, mediocre or not. just getting ridiculous at this point lol.

it's subjective. that's why this is so silly. the ball NAILED the receiver's hands. period. if you want to go back and forth and beyond and be all nit picky about exact, specific, myopic ball placement, then by all means have at it

Why is that subjective? You KNOW damned well that ball should have led Deebo and not required him to contort his body. You KNOW that. I don't understand why people play this bs game.

subjective on whether or not the pass was considered bad, mediocre, or good. it was good enough for me. super catchable. considered bad for you based off Jimmy's standards. not in my eyes.

If you can name an NFL QB coach or QB guru NFL QBs go to that says it's better to put a slant there, where the WR has to contort his body, than in front of the WR so he can catch it in stride, I'll never post on this forum again.

not something i care to waste any more time over regarding 1 singular play in what was otherwise a pretty good game for the offense, for once this season. everybody could always have done something better.

Jimmy could've placed it slightly in front of deebo a couple inches more, or, a FOOT in front of him, and guess what? it's still entirely possible deebo STILL could have dropped it

why? cuz s**t happens!

s**t happened on the first play of the game. Slant pass, right Deebo's hands, one foot in front of the numbers - dropped.

wait, is this the same play we are talkin about? was the ball in front of deebo enough?

No it's not the same play. I was talking about how Jimmy did put a slant pass to Deebo one foot in front and he still dropped it. Deebo's hands are inconsistent going back to his rookie year. Ah s**t, I'm a Deebo hater now.

so basically deebo's drop with the pass that contorted his body earlier was more of a product of Deebo based off this evidence and the overall game he was having at this point, rather than his drop being product of Jimmy's BAD slant throw. got it.

Deebo sucks. I should have just said that instead of making gifs.

If this guy could catch and wasn't 5'6" he'd be pretty good...like a RB.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jcs:
Not a deebo hater here but his current catch rate is his lowest in his career and by a significant percentage.

Sure sounds like hater talk to me. This makes you and I in the Deebo Hater club. We need to start recruiting.

Any type of criticism towards one of our players on here and you get labelled an hater, especially when the criticism Is aimed against the current QB

When the criticism is warranted, no problemo. When the criticism is 55 pages of frame by frame dissection of a meaningless stupid pass Houston we have a problem.

Why not 55 pages of the bomb at the end of the half? Or the JG busted play TD? Or the JG non-busted play TD? Or JG rallying the troops on the sideline which drew the praise of the broadcast crew? We win. FEELS GREAT BABY. JG gets the gameball. Instead of being happy, looking forward to next week, no we have to frame by frame this stupid play 1000 times as some gotcha point that JG screwed up or didn't throw it 100% perfect. It's nit picking on a grand scale it is beyond comical at this point.

I look forward to a showdown this weekend with a 7-1 team. Perhaps JG will throw 3 touchdowns, we get another win and I'll find out next week from the JG thread that if you zoom in and frame-by-frame the wobble from the 2nd TD pass is a little more than usual.

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Lol at Rodgers being in the same tier as Jimmy. Pass that stuff

facts. Rodgers hasn't really been very good this year. They're performing in a comparable fashion.

ANY/A DOES NOT LIE

Sure it does. It fails to distinguish between a guy who's thrown 17 TDs and a guy who's thrown 6. And before you say "attempts," Rodgers's TD percentage is an absurd 6.6% this year. Jimmy is at 3.5. And while Jimmy has 3 TDs rushing, Rodgers has 2. And while Trey has scored two touchdowns on plays relieving Jimmy, that still wouldn't be enough to turn that needle.

Rodgers is playing just shy of MVP level, right under the tier of Stafford and Brady this season.

I mean, come on. Lesson: no stat is the end all be all.

However, what that DOES tell us is that Jimmy is being more careful with the football this year. His 2.3 INT% would be a career low. That's definitely a good sign going forward, if it remains.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
When the criticism is warranted, no problemo. When the criticism is 55 pages of frame by frame dissection of a meaningless stupid pass Houston we have a problem.

Why not 55 pages of the bomb at the end of the half? Or the JG busted play TD? Or the JG non-busted play TD? Or JG rallying the troops on the sideline which drew the praise of the broadcast crew? We win. FEELS GREAT BABY. JG gets the gameball. Instead of being happy, looking forward to next week, no we have to frame by frame this stupid play 1000 times as some gotcha point that JG screwed up or didn't throw it 100% perfect. It's nit picking on a grand scale it is beyond comical at this point.

I look forward to a showdown this weekend with a 7-1 team. Perhaps JG will throw 3 touchdowns, we get another win and I'll find out next week from the JG thread that if you zoom in and frame-by-frame the wobble from the 2nd TD pass is a little more than usual.

Oh, you really are new to the webzone. I thought you were perhaps a previously banned member that came back under a different screen name. This is what we do. Glad to have you here.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jcs:
Not a deebo hater here but his current catch rate is his lowest in his career and by a significant percentage.

Sure sounds like hater talk to me. This makes you and I in the Deebo Hater club. We need to start recruiting.

Any type of criticism towards one of our players on here and you get labelled an hater, especially when the criticism Is aimed against the current QB

When the criticism is warranted, no problemo. When the criticism is 55 pages of frame by frame dissection of a meaningless stupid pass Houston we have a problem.

Why not 55 pages of the bomb at the end of the half? Or the JG busted play TD? Or the JG non-busted play TD? Or JG rallying the troops on the sideline which drew the praise of the broadcast crew? We win. FEELS GREAT BABY. JG gets the gameball. Instead of being happy, looking forward to next week, no we have to frame by frame this stupid play 1000 times as some gotcha point that JG screwed up or didn't throw it 100% perfect. It's nit picking on a grand scale it is beyond comical at this point.

I look forward to a showdown this weekend with a 7-1 team. Perhaps JG will throw 3 touchdowns, we get another win and I'll find out next week from the JG thread that if you zoom in and frame-by-frame the wobble from the 2nd TD pass is a little more than usual.

Right. Those are why we won the game. No one here is denying that. Starting at that last drive before half time, Jimmy was a primary reason we won. I haven't checked his QBR, but it ought to be pretty high for that game. (goes to check) Yep, 2nd best in the NFL last week. He was not particularly terrible early on, but not good either. But then he turned it into high gear and played like a boss.

That doesn't change the fact that the pass was behind.