Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by davide49:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Deebo may not play. so hopefully to Aiyuk

what why?

Originally posted by davide49:
What? Deebo is playing dude.

re-aggravated calf. questionable.

So? He's f'ing playing . Apparently some people don't understand what the words "deebo" and "questionable" equal.

calm the f**k down buddy. deebo has missed time plenty before

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I'm not so sure about this.

Looking at the Bears game and the Packers game for comparison (last full game Jimmy played not counting the Colts game because the weather), I counted how many formations were either empty or single back (not including 2 TE sets unless they are empty, nor when Juice lines up as a TE; WRs that line up in the backfield in a split back set are playing the role of RBs, so they are not counted either, except in the case where the WR lines up wide and motions across at the snap; COUNTING bunch formations as "spread").

Bears: 31 spread plays, 20 non-spread; spread% = 60.78
(not including 3 kneel downs)

Packers: 39 spread plays, 23 non-spread plays; spread% = 61.90
(Not including Trey plays)

Now, maybe it's the case for the other games. But at least those two, there wasn't much difference overall. I'll say that in the Bears game we STARTED with more spread stuff more often, but as the game went on it regressed to the mean. And as for the Packer game, definitely more spread stuff, as defined here.

Of course you may object to me counting bunch formations as spread. Maybe I'll go back and do it again with a different definition. But in terms of 11 personnel and empty formations, there was not a huge difference overall.

It would be interesting to look at all of them, but just this much took me an hour and some of it is subjective, given the weird formations the 49ers use. But really, overall there wasn't much difference. Just EARLY there were more empty formations against the Bears. Maybe that gave him confidence, or maybe it was playing at home, but overall there wasn't too much of a difference. We used more WR motion against the Packers, but I'm assuming that was a particular game plan for the Packers' defense.

Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

I was going to ask JD about this too. What defines a spread offense? Formations? Types of formations? I was looking at the total receivers available.

Per the online definition:

The spread offense is an offensive scheme that typically places the quarterback in the shotgun formation, and "spreads" the defense horizontally using three-, four-, and even five-receiver sets.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I'm not so sure about this.

Looking at the Bears game and the Packers game for comparison (last full game Jimmy played not counting the Colts game because the weather), I counted how many formations were either empty or single back (not including 2 TE sets unless they are empty, nor when Juice lines up as a TE; WRs that line up in the backfield in a split back set are playing the role of RBs, so they are not counted either, except in the case where the WR lines up wide and motions across at the snap; COUNTING bunch formations as "spread").

Bears: 31 spread plays, 20 non-spread; spread% = 60.78
(not including 3 kneel downs)

Packers: 39 spread plays, 23 non-spread plays; spread% = 61.90
(Not including Trey plays)

Now, maybe it's the case for the other games. But at least those two, there wasn't much difference overall. I'll say that in the Bears game we STARTED with more spread stuff more often, but as the game went on it regressed to the mean. And as for the Packer game, definitely more spread stuff, as defined here.

Of course you may object to me counting bunch formations as spread. Maybe I'll go back and do it again with a different definition. But in terms of 11 personnel and empty formations, there was not a huge difference overall.

It would be interesting to look at all of them, but just this much took me an hour and some of it is subjective, given the weird formations the 49ers use. But really, overall there wasn't much difference. Just EARLY there were more empty formations against the Bears. Maybe that gave him confidence, or maybe it was playing at home, but overall there wasn't too much of a difference. We used more WR motion against the Packers, but I'm assuming that was a particular game plan for the Packers' defense.

Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

I was going to ask JD about this too. What defines a spread offense? Formations? Types of formations? I was looking at the total receivers available.

Per the online definition:

The spread offense is an offensive scheme that typically places the quarterback in the shotgun formation, and "spreads" the defense horizontally using three-, four-, and even five-receiver sets.

If we are defining a spread offensive scheme, then perhaps we also consider personnel. Chip Kelly ran a spread scheme - almost always in 11 personnel. But when we are talking about what formations are QB friendly, and SF in particular, then we can loosen the term 'spread'. There are times SF is in 21 personnel with Juice lined up outside the numbers, Kittle is detached, I consider that spread even though there are only two wide receivers on the field. Most QBs are going to see the field better presnap when things are spread out, and I think that's the point we are making when we say 'spread things out and let Jimmy deal'. Personnel doesn't matter in this sense, imo.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I'm not so sure about this.

Looking at the Bears game and the Packers game for comparison (last full game Jimmy played not counting the Colts game because the weather), I counted how many formations were either empty or single back (not including 2 TE sets unless they are empty, nor when Juice lines up as a TE; WRs that line up in the backfield in a split back set are playing the role of RBs, so they are not counted either, except in the case where the WR lines up wide and motions across at the snap; COUNTING bunch formations as "spread").

Bears: 31 spread plays, 20 non-spread; spread% = 60.78
(not including 3 kneel downs)

Packers: 39 spread plays, 23 non-spread plays; spread% = 61.90
(Not including Trey plays)

Now, maybe it's the case for the other games. But at least those two, there wasn't much difference overall. I'll say that in the Bears game we STARTED with more spread stuff more often, but as the game went on it regressed to the mean. And as for the Packer game, definitely more spread stuff, as defined here.

Of course you may object to me counting bunch formations as spread. Maybe I'll go back and do it again with a different definition. But in terms of 11 personnel and empty formations, there was not a huge difference overall.

It would be interesting to look at all of them, but just this much took me an hour and some of it is subjective, given the weird formations the 49ers use. But really, overall there wasn't much difference. Just EARLY there were more empty formations against the Bears. Maybe that gave him confidence, or maybe it was playing at home, but overall there wasn't too much of a difference. We used more WR motion against the Packers, but I'm assuming that was a particular game plan for the Packers' defense.

Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

I was going to ask JD about this too. What defines a spread offense? Formations? Types of formations? I was looking at the total receivers available.

Per the online definition:

The spread offense is an offensive scheme that typically places the quarterback in the shotgun formation, and "spreads" the defense horizontally using three-, four-, and even five-receiver sets.

If we are defining a spread offensive scheme, then perhaps we also consider personnel. Chip Kelly ran a spread scheme - almost always in 11 personnel. But when we are talking about what formations are QB friendly, and SF in particular, then we can loosen the term 'spread'. There are times SF is in 21 personnel with Juice lined up outside the numbers, Kittle is detached, I consider that spread even though there are only two wide receivers on the field. Most QBs are going to see the field better presnap when things are spread out, and I think that's the point we are making when we say 'spread things out and let Jimmy deal'. Personnel doesn't matter in this sense, imo.

I see what you're saying!

Maybe it's more in how we define it here. Below is how I'd define it esp. given the volume of receiving options post snap.

I'm not sure if this plays into the idea the game plan was more "spread out" in the Chicago game but:

• There was not one single play action
• All passing plays were from shotgun only
• JG was only under C for running plays with one exception: one pass from under C inside the 2 yard line pass to Aiyuk; dropped in the EZ. I think the snap under C was to trick the defense into thinking it was going to be a run
• Formations were condensed on running plays (not spread out)
• RB's were receiving options on every pass play (usually two)
• 4x1 on the 2-point conversion
• A number of empty sets

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

At all.

I just went back and rewatched every offensive snap.

It was pretty much, if he was under C it was a handoff. If it was a pass, it was from shotgun with the exception of the one I highlighted above. He did hand off a few times from shotgun.

But no PA where he turns his back to the defense.

Simply catch and throw from shotgun. Under 2.5s too. Quick.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

At all.

I just went back and rewatched every offensive snap.

Whoa. I didn't notice that. That is such a deviation from the norm. I wonder what the reason is for that game plan. It's not like the run game wasn't working.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

At all.

I just went back and rewatched every offensive snap.

Whoa. I didn't notice that. That is such a deviation from the norm. I wonder what the reason is for that game plan. It's not like the run game wasn't working.

Right? I think Kyle just threw him a bone. Catch the snap and throw (from shotgun). That's his entire career until he came here and became a PA passer under Kyle.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

I really don't like the overuse of the PA that Kyle calls. The PA does protect your QB a bit better, but doesn't really let them play to their best abilities unless you have that tool set as a QB.

Jimmy with his quick release should've always been used in a spread type offense for the majority of the game. RPO/PA just isn't his thing, and to be fair to Jimmy, most QBs don't do well in that sort of offense. If RPO/PA is your staple, you need to have an elusive QB, or one that has a great arm to quickly adjust to other throws. RW is a guy that is perfect for this type of offense.

Jimmy should be allowed to work from the gun, RPOs here and there, PA here and there, but keep him in a position were he can see the whole field, the defense isn't bunched up, and let him use his quick release and good accuracy.

Like NC has said, 2017 game plan should've been the staple in this offense. At least when you consider Jimmy's skill set.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

I really don't like the overuse of the PA that Kyle calls. The PA does protect your QB a bit better, but doesn't really let them play to their best abilities unless you have that tool set as a QB.

Jimmy with his quick release should've always been used in a spread type offense for the majority of the game. RPO/PA just isn't his thing, and to be fair to Jimmy, most QBs don't do well in that sort of offense. If RPO/PA is your staple, you need to have an elusive QB, or one that has a great arm to quickly adjust to other throws. RW is a guy that is perfect for this type of offense.

Jimmy should be allowed to work from the gun, RPOs here and there, PA here and there, but keep him in a position were he can see the whole field, the defense isn't bunched up, and let him use his quick release and good accuracy.

Like NC has said, 2017 game plan should've been the staple in this offense. At least when you consider Jimmy's skill set.

Jimmy came from spread in college. And NE used a lot of spread elements when Brady was there. They did other things too but there were many games where they spread it out and used ball control passing for Brady to hit quick separators in Edelman Welker Amendola (sp) and the RBs. So Jimmy came from that. Most QBs nowadays will do better in spread since so many colleges use it as a staple of their offense, going back a decade.

We have 8 more weeks of Jimmy. I guess better late than never lol.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

I really don't like the overuse of the PA that Kyle calls. The PA does protect your QB a bit better, but doesn't really let them play to their best abilities unless you have that tool set as a QB.

Jimmy with his quick release should've always been used in a spread type offense for the majority of the game. RPO/PA just isn't his thing, and to be fair to Jimmy, most QBs don't do well in that sort of offense. If RPO/PA is your staple, you need to have an elusive QB, or one that has a great arm to quickly adjust to other throws. RW is a guy that is perfect for this type of offense.

Jimmy should be allowed to work from the gun, RPOs here and there, PA here and there, but keep him in a position were he can see the whole field, the defense isn't bunched up, and let him use his quick release and good accuracy.

Like NC has said, 2017 game plan should've been the staple in this offense. At least when you consider Jimmy's skill set.

Jimmy came from spread in college. And NE used a lot of spread elements when Brady was there. They did other things too but there were many games where they spread it out and used ball control passing for Brady to hit quick separators in Edelman Welker Amendola (sp) and the RBs. So Jimmy came from that. Most QBs nowadays will do better in spread since so many colleges use it as a staple of their offense, going back a decade.

We have 8 more weeks of Jimmy. I guess better late than never lol.

Ya. And Brady used that check down to the TE/RB as good as anyone else. It's still a mystery why we rarely have a check down to the TE and especially the RB.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

I really don't like the overuse of the PA that Kyle calls. The PA does protect your QB a bit better, but doesn't really let them play to their best abilities unless you have that tool set as a QB.

Jimmy with his quick release should've always been used in a spread type offense for the majority of the game. RPO/PA just isn't his thing, and to be fair to Jimmy, most QBs don't do well in that sort of offense. If RPO/PA is your staple, you need to have an elusive QB, or one that has a great arm to quickly adjust to other throws. RW is a guy that is perfect for this type of offense.

Jimmy should be allowed to work from the gun, RPOs here and there, PA here and there, but keep him in a position were he can see the whole field, the defense isn't bunched up, and let him use his quick release and good accuracy.

Like NC has said, 2017 game plan should've been the staple in this offense. At least when you consider Jimmy's skill set.

I couldn't agree more. Like Thl alluded too, this felt like a Tom Brady game plan.

There are advantages to the PA too esp. if you have the running game going as it pulls up and holds the LB's. But the downside is it takes a full 2 seconds to do it and behind our pass protection, you've got about .5 seconds to plant and find that primary read. This is why he ended up with 125 QB hits a year despite top 6 in release time.

Kyle has more control with PA as it's designed to get that primary opened. It's scheme dictating.

So this game plan, to me, was Kyle relinquishing control and letting Garoppolo pick his choice of usually, 4-5 receivers every passing play without PA. And that's his comfort zone.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice stuff. If you do decide to go back and do this legwork, can you go in with the definition of 'spread' as, "having at least one eligible receiver to each side of the formation, lined up outside the numbers". Personnel does not matter, it's all about formation. It's a lot of work to go back and record this, but I think that's what we should define 'spread' as. I have to think PFF tallies things like this and we can just ask someone that has a PFF subscription.

Well, i learn something new every day, and now have a new idea of spread. The fact JG was in shotgun for our passes, i missed. If JG plays better that way, which is pretty much how he played when he first arrived here, i hope we haven't been using him in the wrong set the last 3 yrs. He definitely seems to play better out of the gun.

I think Kyle not calling one single play action passing play is a massive shift from his usual game plans for Jimmy Garoppolo.

Do you mean no playaction from under center or no playaction at all? I'm not in front of my computer otherwise I'd check myself. That's unheard of for Kyle to use zero play action passes.

I really don't like the overuse of the PA that Kyle calls. The PA does protect your QB a bit better, but doesn't really let them play to their best abilities unless you have that tool set as a QB.

Jimmy with his quick release should've always been used in a spread type offense for the majority of the game. RPO/PA just isn't his thing, and to be fair to Jimmy, most QBs don't do well in that sort of offense. If RPO/PA is your staple, you need to have an elusive QB, or one that has a great arm to quickly adjust to other throws. RW is a guy that is perfect for this type of offense.

Jimmy should be allowed to work from the gun, RPOs here and there, PA here and there, but keep him in a position were he can see the whole field, the defense isn't bunched up, and let him use his quick release and good accuracy.

Like NC has said, 2017 game plan should've been the staple in this offense. At least when you consider Jimmy's skill set.

Jimmy came from spread in college. And NE used a lot of spread elements when Brady was there. They did other things too but there were many games where they spread it out and used ball control passing for Brady to hit quick separators in Edelman Welker Amendola (sp) and the RBs. So Jimmy came from that. Most QBs nowadays will do better in spread since so many colleges use it as a staple of their offense, going back a decade.

We have 8 more weeks of Jimmy. I guess better late than never lol.

What are the advantages/disadvantage for HC calling plays with QB in shotgun compared to under centre?