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Dec 6, 2021 at 11:35 AM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Five more games of Jimmy left.

Probably fewer than that. In 3 weeks it's very likely that we'll be 6-9 and essentially eliminated from playoff contention. Why not start Trey for the last 2 games? Any chance of getting higher than a 4th rounder for Jimmy has gone out the window at this point, so it doesn't make sense to keep putting him out there.

It's almost as likely we could be 9-6.

I think Jimmy is now on the "win and you remain in" leash. And I think he should be. If he keeps the ship right (and doesn't shoot holes in the deck), keep it going.

It's not likely at all that we'll beat the Bengals on the road or the Titans on a short week on the road. The Falcons game is a 50/50 toss-up.
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:35 AM
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Every throw is wedged between 4 defenders because of Kyle???????

Exactly. Has nothing to do with Jimmy's less than spectacular field vision. Kurt Warner doesn't know anything about quarterbacking despite being a Hall of Fame QB. True fact.


no adjustments from kyle. No ideas to make it work despite the seattle defense being porous af.



It's both. It's a timing issue, sure. He could have waited and thrown it to Sherfield. That doesn't explain why he didn't see the BLUE JERSEY that was DIRECTLY in the path of the ball. That's also a vision issue. If you SEE the defender there lurking, you DON'T throw it.

EDIT -- Also Kurt Warner knows more about quarterbacking than Shanahan, and that's a fact whether homers want to admit it or not. Shanahan has never played QB. He has a scheme, which he knows better than anyone. But he's never played QB. Warner pointed out NUMEROUS instances where Jimmy appeared to fail to see what was going on on the field. Many times, and he got away with it over and over because of his incredible release and ability to make big time throws over the middle of the field.

Have to wait for the end zone view to be sure, but I believe the Wagner INT was more a bad throw than a vision or timing issue. The throw was way behind Sherfield. You can even see Trent throw his hands up after like "What the f**k?"

It's possible. It looked like he was throwing it to Kittle. Either way it's not excusable, and it doesn't disprove the claim that he isn't great at seeing the field (go look at Warner's video, and remember the consistent failure to throw to wide open guys).
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:36 AM
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Five more games of Jimmy left.

Probably fewer than that. In 3 weeks it's very likely that we'll be 6-9 and essentially eliminated from playoff contention. Why not start Trey for the last 2 games? Any chance of getting higher than a 4th rounder for Jimmy has gone out the window at this point, so it doesn't make sense to keep putting him out there.

It's almost as likely we could be 9-6.

I think Jimmy is now on the "win and you remain in" leash. And I think he should be. If he keeps the ship right (and doesn't shoot holes in the deck), keep it going.

It's not likely at all that we'll beat the Bengals on the road or the Titans on a short week on the road. The Falcons game is a 50/50 toss-up.

I think it's also unlikely we lose all three. 8-7 or 7-8 are much more likely IMHO.
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Five more games of Jimmy left.

Probably fewer than that. In 3 weeks it's very likely that we'll be 6-9 and essentially eliminated from playoff contention. Why not start Trey for the last 2 games? Any chance of getting higher than a 4th rounder for Jimmy has gone out the window at this point, so it doesn't make sense to keep putting him out there.

Nah stop being dramatic. they'll make it to the playoffs, already have tie breakers against Philly and Vikes who seem to be crashing themselves . Niners play some bad teams, others falling off, and the Rams 1 more time with Deebo coming back as well. Doubt they do anything once they get there tho
We do have the head-to-head sweep of Philly and Minn. But what if it's four teams? That brings it to conference record. We really, really, REALLY need to beat the Falcons.
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:39 AM
grrr I know people hate Rich in here...disregard the context of the tweet (if you feel like you have too) and focus on the film.




[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 6, 2021 at 11:46 AM ]
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:43 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
grrr I know people hate Rich in here...disregard the context of the tweet (if you feel like you have too) and focus on the film.





That last one is the difference between good and great.
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:44 AM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
grrr I know people hate Rich in here...disregard the context of the tweet (if you feel like you have too) and focus on the film.





That last one is the difference between good and great.

He just need more time to learn this offense.
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Joecool:
Jimmy has been playing well for 4 or so straight games. Every QB runs into a bad game. Even though he had a "bad" game, he brought us back in a position to win. SEA just made a better play and the refs crapped the bed at the worst times for us and at the best times for SEA.

oh please
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:47 AM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
That last one is the difference between good and great.

Saw the same thing happen last week in the Vikings game. Aiyuk had his guy beat deep, but Jimmy throws short.
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:47 AM
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
grrr I know people hate Rich in here...disregard the context of the tweet (if you feel like you have too) and focus on the film.





That last one is the difference between good and great.

He just need more time to learn this offense.

Dec 6, 2021 at 11:48 AM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
grrr I know people hate Rich in here...disregard the context of the tweet (if you feel like you have too) and focus on the film.





That last one is the difference between good and great.

More like the difference between average and good.
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:49 AM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
That last one is the difference between good and great.

It all depends on how they practiced it compared to the look the defense gets. That's the thing with having a QBs back to the defense on those long play actions. They practice turning that head and looking at the spot that should be open as it was practiced. But given the amount of space Jimmy had, that's something he should have deviated from the play ran in practice and went for the kill.

As for the throw to Juice, that's on Jimmy. Wide open target, you can't make it that hard.
[ Edited by Joecool on Dec 6, 2021 at 11:49 AM ]
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:51 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
LMFAO.

Jimmy cost us 7 points on 2 INT's. Tom Compton cost us 9.


I can only guess that that's from the self-made chart here:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Penalties/Non-Penalties/Refs - 14 points (at least)
Jimmy - 7 points
Special Teams - 15 points
Defense - 7 points (quick 7 after immediately going up double digits)

Just another collective s**t in the park.

I gotta admit that 1st, you deserve an award of some type for the change in your "Theme of The Week" campaign that is now target at sprinkling the blame around a little more evenly. Creative indeed!

I also have to admit that this one is alot better than the shotgun-spread no pa theme that I hope is now retired forever, as this one has the potential to be ALOT more tangible than ghost averages posted from out of nowhere with no link.

However, as you are probably aware, there are holes all over the place in it.

I mean,...the only one I can come close to addressing legitimately is the STs,...guessing that the 15 pts ='s Robbie's missed XP (1), the TB fumble (7), and the fake punt that went for a TD(7)?

Even then,...this is a complete mess because, for example:

1) The fake punt for a TD is technically not a STs play, since the kick was never attempted. It counts as a defensive play in the books, but go with it.

2) Benjamin's fumble didn't cost us points on the following drive. It was a complete momentum killer as we looked to bury them @ the start of the 2nd half, but I cant measure any points that came from it tangibly because we INTERCEPTED the ball near the goal line if you recall, swinging the momentum back to us, and again, the Seahawks got a goose egg off of the ST's FUMBLE.

However, I believe Jimmy G followed that up with a SAFETY, so that's I guess 2 points that you just attributed to Compton, not a 7 that you've already blamed on STs, even though we intercepted the ball right back?!?!

And how does STs get blamed for scores that weren't on immediate/the following drive, but Jimmy's mistakes get a pass any time we get the ball back, even though they might've killed momentum as well?!

As you can see it's just a cluster**** all the way around, case in point how 15 points really turns out to be 1 point.

I mean I guess the only true goals here are to absolve Jimmy of as much blame as possible and place as much blame on the Oline and others as possible.

But even still, I'd ask that this new theme have a little more work done to it after Cincy so we can somehow keep up with these errant point totals.
[ Edited by random49er on Dec 6, 2021 at 12:06 PM ]
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:53 AM
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
grrr I know people hate Rich in here...disregard the context of the tweet (if you feel like you have too) and focus on the film.





That last one is the difference between good and great.

He just need more time to learn this offense.
I hope this is sarcasm.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
grrr I know people hate Rich in here...disregard the context of the tweet (if you feel like you have too) and focus on the film.





That last one is the difference between good and great.

More like the difference between average and good.
Okay fair enough. Probably more accurate. But Jimmy did go through a few week stretch of playing very good.

Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
That last one is the difference between good and great.

It all depends on how they practiced it compared to the look the defense gets. That's the thing with having a QBs back to the defense on those long play actions. They practice turning that head and looking at the spot that should be open as it was practiced. But given the amount of space Jimmy had, that's something he should have deviated from the play ran in practice and went for the kill.

As for the throw to Juice, that's on Jimmy. Wide open target, you can't make it that hard.

Jimmy has had YEARS of practicing this offense. Why is it that he's the only 8 year veteran that gets these excuses? I mean, I know why. This is 49ers board, so we have sever homeritis. But I do frequent other boards to get off on their tears when we beat them, and frankly I just do not see the same level of homerism. Maybe Northern California is full of optimists. It is a very nice place, so I can see that. Don't live there though. But it's very nice.
Dec 6, 2021 at 11:55 AM
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
grrr I know people hate Rich in here...disregard the context of the tweet (if you feel like you have too) and focus on the film.





That last one is the difference between good and great.

More like the difference between average and good.

every week he's leaving plays/yards on the field. every damn week
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