Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Jimmy is injured, coming off a horrible game, and has to okay a trade to happen. I just don't see how it favors us at all..... If any team was interested they would just wait till he gets cut, but I could be totally wrong so theres that.
Actually, I'm pretty sure he doesn't.
If we tried to trade him today? Yeah he would have to agree to it. But I believe sometime next year, I want to say end of March, that no trade clause goes away and he doesn't
have to give his okay about being traded or to whom he's traded. This has been reported and it's hard to imagine that they just made something like that up. It's I'd presume pretty atypical and very understandable that probably almost no one is aware of that.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by jcs:
He didn't lose his thumb, he'll be healthy in just over a month.
He'll also be healthy in the offseason and there are plenty of teams that desperately need a QB who wins nearly 70% of the games he starts. I'm sure most of those teams won't also hamper him with a POS Oline and poor pass protection like Kyle has in their 4.5 seasons together.
Here we go again with this nonsense of attributing team stats to the QB.
Which team wants an injury-prone, 27+ million QB who is a statue, a turnover machine while offering next to zero downfield or big play upside, while also unable to read defenses consistently in year 8 in the league ?
Um, well Denver was mentioned and a team that can't draft one at all and kept giving guys like Brock Osweiler, Paxton Lynch, and Drew Lock might be interested.
A team that George Seifert coach a long time ago that thought Sam Darnold and Cam Newton could be rehabbed might be interested.
A team that hasn't remotely successfully found Big Ben's replacement might be interested.
A team that replaced a Hall of Fame QB with a gimmick QB and arguable bust of a #1 overall pick, and given his draft status
is a bust who also has a offensive minded head coach might be interested.
Injury prone, sure.
The next team is not necessarily going to pay him that much money and likely won't. Yes they take on his contract but that's also why there are negotiations even on that during trades where we perhaps would stay be paying a portion of that.
A statue, unfortunately
A turnover machine is an exaggeration and just an emotional "I hate Jimmy" or at best "He frustrates the heck out of me" rant.
That said there is
some truth to your critique of him. But that still nonetheless ignores just how many QB's in this league aren't that great and are all kind of bunched in the roughly equivalent to Jimmy and even not as good as Jimmy category. As well as how many teams have for years and years and years now not adequately or successfully addressed the position whether in terms of finding a quality starter or finding a replacement for their long time starter. Can't draft one worth a crap. Can't/won't commit to signing one worth a crap.
Jimmy is certainly at this stage not anyone's future at the position. But if a team views him as indeed a Alex Smith type or even peak Andy Dalton type good enough placeholder for however long they'll take him.
I guess it's just a fanbase thing. We almost always look harder at our own players's faults than other teams do. Especially other teams who are really really bad or have a bigger need in a spot than we do.
Jimmy is certainly no one's future