Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…
I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating
Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.
People can't have it both ways. They can't say, "You can't cite Jimmy's won loss record because that's a team stat" and then say, "Jimmy lost us the game" when there were 10 other guys on offense, and more than that subbing in, 11 guys on defense, and more than that subbing in, and guys on special teams who in multiple cases and perhaps at multiple times screwed something up along the way.
Sure they can. "Jimmy is X and Y as a starter!" contains no context and thus the win-loss record of a TEAM cannot fully or accurately portray the abilities of an individual player. "Jimmy lost this game for our team because of X and Y" does contain the context to attribute a loss to one individual primary contributer.
Interception in the endzone. Loss of points. Missed Juice. Loss of points. Interception on our side of the field. Led to their points. Yes, the defense struggled mightily in the second half. Yes, special teams are as abysmal as we've all come to expect. With that said, you expect your QB to be good enough to overcome these struggles, and make up for any weak links. No QB, no matter how good, can make up for a bad team 17 games a year. But one or two? Absolutely. Versus a beat up Titans team, Jimmy handed them the game. Going into half time someone tweeted how good the defense had looked. I responded, long road trip on a short week, offense is going to need to start sustaining some drives if we are to hold up. And sure enough, turnovers and short drives without points led to our defense getting absolutely gassed.
Not entirely incorrect but again it works both ways. Someone said it brilliantly when they said the media and the marketing arm of the NFL has conditioned everyone to focus on almost nothing but the quarterback. Paraphrasing obviously but it is nonetheless true.
As a result, almost like the President of the United States, which is a digression I know- but the point is too much credit and blame for everything. The quarterback is realistically given probably too much credit for a heck of a lot of wins and too much blame for a heck of a lot of losses.
And again the point is, you're pointing the finger at Jimmy and saying, in your own words, he has to be good enough to make up for any weak links. Yet at the same time if the quarterback is the weak link in a particular game, there is no accountability or no expectation on other components of the team to make up for that particular weak link. Or even if there is, they still tend to get a pass because they're not the quarterback. But if multiple links in the game are bad or weak, than guess what. You're probably going to lose.
The reality is this can all be summed up like this. A large percentage or at least a very vocal percentage of people here convinced themselves and set it in their minds that even with injuries, even with generally poor pass protection, even with maybe the weakest set of starting corners in the league, right now anyway, and even with almost no running backs staying healthy two weeks in a row the biggest problem and the biggest thing holding the team back is Jimmy Garoppolo. Now, that was decided before some of the other things happened when it comes to injuries and our secondary and so forth. But because it was decided and there's no going back mentally on that that's going to be the predicted complaint every single week- at least when we lose.