Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by miked1978:
I htink Jimmy gives us the best chance to win if he's healthy. Lance is holding on to the ball too long and if he's playing a team with a decent pass rush they will eat him alive.

Nothing against Lance. Very happy with what i saw yesterday.

Yes but if Jimmy throws a pick we lose. All season it's been that way. "Jimmy is good, but can't cover his sins." Greg Olsen

trey won despite throwing a pick. Yes I know who we played. But we have lost to teams similar

The "who we played" card is being played because it gets done for Jimmy.

JAX, DET, CHI, were all, "but look who we played".

Either way, he played well and that's a positive thing.

I'm supporting whoever Kyle puts under center because he knows who gives our offense the best chance to succeed. Not fans on a forum who made up their mind last April

That's ironic. Because the only thing I adamantly disagreed with you on this year was the comment you made along the lines of… "Anyone who wants Trey Lance to start week one doesn't want us to win" Did you not make up your mind in April with that quote? I've never understood that one.

Ive repeatedly said that was a the wrong way to look at things because you're assuming what Trey is without evidence and speculating what he would become this season when my default position all year has been "I don't know.

It's okay to say I don't know and I'd argue that's the only position to hold that made any sense when projecting Lance as a rookie.

As far as Jimmy G goes…

I really don't understand how anyone can assume he's going to have a huge market and expect him to make more money next season with his new team.

The Steelers make some sense but I've always seen them as a team that wants to push the ball down the field in a vertical passing game. That's not Jimmy's game. Maybe they change their philosophy.

I'll concede Jimmy is more safe of a player than Bridgewater or Heinicke but when you consider his cap hit I don't see how he's a better option for those teams. I'd rather have Heinicke + cap space over Jimmy.

Ok... Who would you sign if you were the Broncos, Steelers, Washington, Giants, Panthers, Saints, Browns?

There are many teams that could use Jimmy for a season or two. Heinicke is nothing more than a fan favorite.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I wouldnt' trust this secondary to cover a college team's group of wr's. Tarrt and Ward are allergic to making plays unless the ball is thrown directly to them.

How are they rated 5th in the league in pass yards given up?

I think we overreact to all the pass interference calls and not look at all the other plays that the secondary defended well.

There is definitely revisionist history with this defense. But the most memorable parts of games are the endings, not the 3 quarters before that. IE: Titans, Bengals etc. Remove the 4th quarter from games and this team would have a bye week going into the playoffs.

Packers. :37s

Late comebacks from Detroit and Philly too. Colt McCoy. Even Justin Fields looking like a league MVP but prior, looking like hot garbage. Many career days against this passing D.

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by miked1978:
I htink Jimmy gives us the best chance to win if he's healthy. Lance is holding on to the ball too long and if he's playing a team with a decent pass rush they will eat him alive.

Nothing against Lance. Very happy with what i saw yesterday.

Yes but if Jimmy throws a pick we lose. All season it's been that way. "Jimmy is good, but can't cover his sins." Greg Olsen

trey won despite throwing a pick. Yes I know who we played. But we have lost to teams similar

The "who we played" card is being played because it gets done for Jimmy.

JAX, DET, CHI, were all, "but look who we played".

Either way, he played well and that's a positive thing.

I'm supporting whoever Kyle puts under center because he knows who gives our offense the best chance to succeed. Not fans on a forum who made up their mind last April

That's ironic. Because the only thing I adamantly disagreed with you on this year was the comment you made along the lines of… "Anyone who wants Trey Lance to start week one doesn't want us to win" Did you not make up your mind in April with that quote? I've never understood that one.

Ive repeatedly said that was a the wrong way to look at things because you're assuming what Trey is without evidence and speculating what he would become this season when my default position all year has been "I don't know.

It's okay to say I don't know and I'd argue that's the only position to hold that made any sense when projecting Lance as a rookie.

As far as Jimmy G goes…

I really don't understand how anyone can assume he's going to have a huge market and expect him to make more money next season with his new team.

The Steelers make some sense but I've always seen them as a team that wants to push the ball down the field in a vertical passing game. That's not Jimmy's game. Maybe they change their philosophy.

I'll concede Jimmy is more safe of a player than Bridgewater or Heinicke but when you consider his cap hit I don't see how he's a better option for those teams. I'd rather have Heinicke + cap space over Jimmy.

Ok... Who would you sign if you were the Broncos, Steelers, Washington, Giants, Panthers, Saints, Browns?

There are many teams that could use Jimmy for a season or two. Heinicke is nothing more than a fan favorite.

Washington would be legit. Great DL, good OL, good running team, young, a few weapons, etc. Add some more this off season and they'd be right in the division hunt.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Saints nonsense? They would have to clear almost $90M in capspace AND send draft capital to get Jimmy. That is about as far fetched as me saying Mahomes would be an interesting fit for the 49ers.

I dont know why this needs to be repeated in this thread so many times by so many different posters.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Saints nonsense? They would have to clear almost $90M in capspace AND send draft capital to get Jimmy. That is about as far fetched as me saying Mahomes would be an interesting fit for the 49ers.

What the heck are you talking about clearing $90 mil? Have you run those number by Paraag? Sounds like a typo.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Saints nonsense? They would have to clear almost $90M in capspace AND send draft capital to get Jimmy. That is about as far fetched as me saying Mahomes would be an interesting fit for the 49ers.

I dont know why this needs to be repeated in this thread so many times by so many different posters.

He's gonna be cut. Nobody is trading for him, because they all know we will cut him. Once that happens, yeah, I could see him signing with Saints.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Saints nonsense? They would have to clear almost $90M in capspace AND send draft capital to get Jimmy. That is about as far fetched as me saying Mahomes would be an interesting fit for the 49ers.

I dont know why this needs to be repeated in this thread so many times by so many different posters.

He's gonna be cut. Nobody is trading for him, because they all know we will cut him. Once that happens, yeah, I could see him signing with Saints.

I bet you he gets traded to a desperate team. If Darnold had value last year, Jimmy has way more this offseason.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Ok... Who would you sign if you were the Broncos, Steelers, Washington, Giants, Panthers, Saints, Browns?

There are many teams that could use Jimmy for a season or two. Heinicke is nothing more than a fan favorite.

Washington and Carolina will probably draft a QB just looking at the current draft order.

Giants really want Russell Wilson or Watson. They probably won't get either.

But I believe they would take either Winston, Bridgewater, or Mariota.

It only takes one team to bite but I still find it highly unlikely someone would considering his injury history and that his 19 TDs to 10 ints is just marginally better than some of the other QBs.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Washington would be legit. Great DL, good OL, good running team, young, a few weapons, etc. Add some more this off season and they'd be right in the division hunt.

Heinicke has 20 passing TDs (one more than Jimmy), more total yards, and only 5 more ints on Washington without Kittle, Deebo and Kyle Shanahan.

Is Jimmy an upgrade, sure, but contract wise I don't see how he takes Washington to another level like some are suggesting.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Saints nonsense? They would have to clear almost $90M in capspace AND send draft capital to get Jimmy. That is about as far fetched as me saying Mahomes would be an interesting fit for the 49ers.

What the heck are you talking about clearing $90 mil? Have you run those number by Paraag? Sounds like a typo.

Its not a typo. The Saints currently are projected to be $61M+ over the cap. Then factor in Jimmy's salary. Thats how I came up with clearing almost $90M in capspace. Simple addition.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2022/

And a team who needs to cut that much salary is going to heavily rely on the draft to fill their roster. Having to clear a boatload of cap by cutting players and trading away draft picks to add more salary makes absolutely no sense.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Is Jimmy an upgrade, sure, but contract wise I don't see how he takes Washington to another level like some are suggesting.

It truly is incredible to me how certain posters cannot grasp that it's not just "is QB ___ better than our current QB?"

Is Jimmy better than Heinicke? Yes. No argument here.

Is Jimmy better than Heinicke, the draft pick(s) it would cost to acquire Jimmy, plus the $20M+ salary of the other players that could be signed that are off the table due to the QB salary difference? Debatable at best.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

It truly is incredible to me how certain posters cannot grasp that it's not just "is QB ___ better than our current QB?"

Is Jimmy better than Heinicke? Yes. No argument here.

Is Jimmy better than Heinicke, the draft pick(s) it would cost to acquire Jimmy, plus the $20M+ salary of the other players that could be signed that are off the table due to the QB salary difference? Debatable at best.

Easily because a team can't make the SB with Heinicke.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Saints nonsense? They would have to clear almost $90M in capspace AND send draft capital to get Jimmy. That is about as far fetched as me saying Mahomes would be an interesting fit for the 49ers.

I dont know why this needs to be repeated in this thread so many times by so many different posters.

He's gonna be cut. Nobody is trading for him, because they all know we will cut him. Once that happens, yeah, I could see him signing with Saints.

I bet you he gets traded to a desperate team. If Darnold had value last year, Jimmy has way more this offseason.

Darnold had more than 1 year left on his contract. His ROOKIE contract.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Saints nonsense? They would have to clear almost $90M in capspace AND send draft capital to get Jimmy. That is about as far fetched as me saying Mahomes would be an interesting fit for the 49ers.

What the heck are you talking about clearing $90 mil? Have you run those number by Paraag? Sounds like a typo.

Its not a typo. The Saints currently are projected to be $61M+ over the cap. Then factor in Jimmy's salary. Thats how I came up with clearing almost $90M in capspace. Simple addition.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2022/

And a team who needs to cut that much salary is going to heavily rely on the draft to fill their roster. Having to clear a boatload of cap by cutting players and trading away draft picks to add more salary makes absolutely no sense.

Add Hills salary and that would be a lot of cash spent on hohum QBs

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9erReign:
Where do you think he signs with this offseason? Where would he be most successful?

Saints would be an interesting fit. He can do the short accurate passing and Sean Peyton watched as he hung 48 on em in the dome.

Can we PLEASE stop with the Saints nonsense? They would have to clear almost $90M in capspace AND send draft capital to get Jimmy. That is about as far fetched as me saying Mahomes would be an interesting fit for the 49ers.

What the heck are you talking about clearing $90 mil? Have you run those number by Paraag? Sounds like a typo.

Its not a typo. The Saints currently are projected to be $61M+ over the cap. Then factor in Jimmy's salary. Thats how I came up with clearing almost $90M in capspace. Simple addition.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2022/

And a team who needs to cut that much salary is going to heavily rely on the draft to fill their roster. Having to clear a boatload of cap by cutting players and trading away draft picks to add more salary makes absolutely no sense.

Doing some looking into it they were apparently $100 mil over the cap coming into this year. Looks like they cleared that. $90 mil should be a piece of cake. Especially considering the league is giving them a $26 mil head start. Not saying they will get JG but they could if so inclined. In fact if acquiring they would likely redo JG's deal and the amount counting to this year's cap may be way less than what you are factoring.