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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Should be a Super Bowl lock with an improved roster.
I would like our chances better then a lessened roster.
Originally posted by Joecool:the jinx is on
To me, Jimmy has not been the usual brain fart Jimmy since the Rams game. He has not had any misreads that led to an INT. Since the Rams game, all of his INTS came based on a physical mistakes and not mental mistakes. He hasn't gotten "robbed" by the safety or undercut by a LB. The INTs have been because a throw sailed from him or just didn't get there fast enough.
The good thing is that he hasn't made any mental mistakes based on misreading coverages. This is also why I think he is getting sacked a little more.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
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Still Rodgers was sacked and harassed more than Jimmy. The O lines were probably having trouble with their footing in that game so I'm not surprised.
Jimmy was sacked 4 times on 23 dropbacks, or on 17% of his dropbacks and according to pro football reference was under pressure on 39.1% of his dropbacks.
Rodgers was sacked 5 times on 34 dropbacks or 14.7% and according to the same source was pressured on 26.5% of his dropbacks.
Jimmy was hit 3 times, Rodgers 1.
No, Rodgers wasn't getting pressured and harassed more. Not saying this is you, but some people have this lense they see Garoppolo with vs other qb's and act like Jimmy does less under better circumstances.
GB's defense came to play. They had their best defense in years, Kenny Clark was a monster all game and we struggled separating from man-coverage.
Just think about how dominant our defense and pass rush seemed Jimmy was under more pressure and had fewer guys open. Think about that.
I disagree that he was under more pressure. Rodgers avoided getting hit by being able to move better. In that weather neither QB was going to be able to do much anyway. I stated on another post that despite some drops i was amazed that the receivers were able to catch the ball as well as they did.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
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Jimmy was sacked 4 times on 23 dropbacks, or on 17% of his dropbacks and according to pro football reference was under pressure on 39.1% of his dropbacks.
Rodgers was sacked 5 times on 34 dropbacks or 14.7% and according to the same source was pressured on 26.5% of his dropbacks.
Jimmy was hit 3 times, Rodgers 1.
No, Rodgers wasn't getting pressured and harassed more. Not saying this is you, but some people have this lense they see Garoppolo with vs other qb's and act like Jimmy does less under better circumstances.
GB's defense came to play. They had their best defense in years, Kenny Clark was a monster all game and we struggled separating from man-coverage.
Just think about how dominant our defense and pass rush seemed Jimmy was under more pressure and had fewer guys open. Think about that.
I disagree that he was under more pressure. Rodgers avoided getting hit by being able to move better. In that weather neither QB was going to be able to do much anyway. I stated on another post that despite some drops i was amazed that the receivers were able to catch the ball as well as they did.
That's now how it works. If Rodgers had to move to avoid getting hit, it will still register as a pressure. Rodgers was pressured 9 times on 34 dropbacks, Jimmy 9 times on 23 dropbacks.
For the pressure to be equal, Jimmy would've had to have taken 11 more dropbacks with zero pressure.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Silky:
I think Acho makes a really good point and sums up this entire thread. Starting at the 4:25 mark
Wow, so refreshing of an assessment. Soooooooo much more to QBing, especially in this system, than just the salient tangibles.
Yeah this was a great exchange and explanation of the intangibles that QB's (and all positions) must have to be successful.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Has anyone asked him to validate this?
Yes his little spread sheet is wrong according to pro-football reference..
Jimmy was pressured 10x the past two games and had pressure rate of 10.8% vs Dallas and 17.1% vs GB No clue where he came up with those numbers.
I was skeptical because of the Dallas game for sure.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
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Jimmy was sacked 4 times on 23 dropbacks, or on 17% of his dropbacks and according to pro football reference was under pressure on 39.1% of his dropbacks.
Rodgers was sacked 5 times on 34 dropbacks or 14.7% and according to the same source was pressured on 26.5% of his dropbacks.
Jimmy was hit 3 times, Rodgers 1.
No, Rodgers wasn't getting pressured and harassed more. Not saying this is you, but some people have this lense they see Garoppolo with vs other qb's and act like Jimmy does less under better circumstances.
GB's defense came to play. They had their best defense in years, Kenny Clark was a monster all game and we struggled separating from man-coverage.
Just think about how dominant our defense and pass rush seemed Jimmy was under more pressure and had fewer guys open. Think about that.
I disagree that he was under more pressure. Rodgers avoided getting hit by being able to move better. In that weather neither QB was going to be able to do much anyway. I stated on another post that despite some drops i was amazed that the receivers were able to catch the ball as well as they did.
That's now how it works. If Rodgers had to move to avoid getting hit, it will still register as a pressure. Rodgers was pressured 9 times on 34 dropbacks, Jimmy 9 times on 23 dropbacks.
For the pressure to be equal, Jimmy would've had to have taken 11 more dropbacks with zero pressure.
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
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I disagree that he was under more pressure. Rodgers avoided getting hit by being able to move better. In that weather neither QB was going to be able to do much anyway. I stated on another post that despite some drops i was amazed that the receivers were able to catch the ball as well as they did.
That's now how it works. If Rodgers had to move to avoid getting hit, it will still register as a pressure. Rodgers was pressured 9 times on 34 dropbacks, Jimmy 9 times on 23 dropbacks.
For the pressure to be equal, Jimmy would've had to have taken 11 more dropbacks with zero pressure.
If you go by PFF numbers...
Rodgers: 12 pressures on 34 dropbacks (35%)
Jimmy: 11 pressures on 23 dropbacks (48%)
Originally posted by Silky:
I think Acho makes a really good point and sums up this entire thread. Starting at the 4:25 mark
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
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That's now how it works. If Rodgers had to move to avoid getting hit, it will still register as a pressure. Rodgers was pressured 9 times on 34 dropbacks, Jimmy 9 times on 23 dropbacks.
For the pressure to be equal, Jimmy would've had to have taken 11 more dropbacks with zero pressure.
If you go by PFF numbers...
Rodgers: 12 pressures on 34 dropbacks (35%)
Jimmy: 11 pressures on 23 dropbacks (48%)
50% seems right
I felt like Compton was getting beat on every snap
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by ritz126:
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If you go by PFF numbers...
Rodgers: 12 pressures on 34 dropbacks (35%)
Jimmy: 11 pressures on 23 dropbacks (48%)
50% seems right
I felt like Compton was getting beat on every snap
So does this mean Jimmy is a better QB than Rodgers?
