Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
He's right. I have always felt that JG's will to win presses him to play aggressively and to push the margins of his ability. He's got it like the greats have it. I will take the picks any day with that attitude.

It seems that the team feels the same way. If it weren't for his injury history, JG would be the QBOTF.

I hope Trey has that same obsession.

Lombardi who's a self described analytic nerd, talked about because Jimmy is so aggressive it will result in TO worthy plays (at least that's what he said on twitter) thing is using his own analytics, Jimmy is actually not very aggressive and there's multiple stats backing that up.

There are different types of aggressiveness though.

Originally posted by bzborow1:
JT OSullivan still has some of the balanced coverage you're going to see on QBs out there, and he's released a new video on JimmyG.

https://youtu.be/mB7KjsiInjo

He does a really good job breaking down QBs. I enjoyed his pre draft videos on QBs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Jimmynis polarizing here because some are hapoybto win with him and some are not.

It should be cool to pat him a compliment after that great game winning drive and second half in hostile conditions in Green Bay but some get triggered by those comments and must counter them with negativity.

Jimmy is polarizing because of how he plays.

Also no more trying to start arguments today man, I'm not here for that especially about a subjective take like we should or shouldn't complement a guy just cause. Some get triggered in here if you don't just praise him regardless, people should be allowed to contextualize ANY given game. It's not different then if SF lost a game and it wasn't because of QB play or talking about how bad ST was, even though we won. I'm also not saying Jimmy was bad vs GB in those elements, but for the love of god just leave it alone for one day.

Why no ask for a million dollars too while you're at it?

LFG Polo !!!!

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by dioworld:

Great video

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Jimmynis polarizing here because some are hapoybto win with him and some are not.

It should be cool to pat him a compliment after that great game winning drive and second half in hostile conditions in Green Bay but some get triggered by those comments and must counter them with negativity.

Jimmy is polarizing because of how he plays.

Also no more trying to start arguments today man, I'm not here for that especially about a subjective take like we should or shouldn't complement a guy just cause. Some get triggered in here if you don't just praise him regardless, people should be allowed to contextualize ANY given game. It's not different then if SF lost a game and it wasn't because of QB play or talking about how bad ST was, even though we won. I'm also not saying Jimmy was bad vs GB in those elements, but for the love of god just leave it alone for one day.

The team is won in LA to make the playoffs, won in Dallas and won in Green Bay to make the NFCC and some are polarized by celebrating the game winning drive or Shanahan praising an incomplete pass.

That is silly. People are allowed to make sully posts and get triggered over any praise.

You argued against praise given to Jimmy in the Jimmy thread for the last drive of the game. Are you not allowing people to express their opinion that Jimmy won that game with a great 4th qtr game winning drive?

How many interceptions will he have Sunday?

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
The team is won in LA to make the playoffs, won in Dallas and won in Green Bay to make the NFCC and some are polarized by celebrating the game winning drive or Shanahan praising an incomplete pass.

That is silly. People are allowed to make sully posts and get triggered over any praise.

You argued against praise given to Jimmy in the Jimmy thread for the last drive of the game. Are you not allowing people to express their opinion that Jimmy won that game with a great 4th qtr game winning drive?

everyone get's triggered over everything in here...stop pretending it's just one way. We got one weird poster (who's currently on a TO) DMing me that I have no life, if I get banned don't hurt myself and I should see a counselor etc. Like what are we doing here? s**t is getting way to weird and personal. It's the WZ and not that deep.

Yes I said I don't think throwing two 4 yard slants was some massive accomplishment for a NFL QB, doesn't mean I don't think he played a part in the W.

Also I don't care if you praise Jimmy, go ahead my man....I said I didn't think it was some magical thing from him in GB, not compare to the LA drives. That's it. There is no point to even be talking about this anymore. Do whatever the f**k you want to do....when it comes to talk about the game itself we should be able to have a discussion on it. For you it's W/L and nothing else matters, for others it's different. That should be okay...you don't want to partake in that discussion then don't.

Overall it seems like your beef is with posters and at this point I don't care about debating that. Go do it with someone else...you want to talk about the game, cool I'm down for that.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
He's right. I have always felt that JG's will to win presses him to play aggressively and to push the margins of his ability. He's got it like the greats have it. I will take the picks any day with that attitude.

It seems that the team feels the same way. If it weren't for his injury history, JG would be the QBOTF.

I hope Trey has that same obsession.

Lombardi who's a self described analytic nerd, talked about because Jimmy is so aggressive it will result in TO worthy plays (at least that's what he said on twitter) thing is using his own analytics, Jimmy is actually not very aggressive and there's multiple stats backing that up.

There are different types of aggressiveness though.

Exactly. I don't remember which week is was Exactly but someone asked me about a pick he threw and I said, "that was Jimmy getting too aggressive. A little Gunslinger in him believing he could make a super tight window throw".

I remember a few people "LOL'd" at me for saying that. Happened on Reddit too. But, here we are and Kyle said Exactly what I said about 2 months ago.

I can't even count how many times Kyle or Mike McDaniels have said exactly what I've said, after I say it.

Then people go, "that's just coach speak" you're not convincing me of that when I say it from watching film, then Kyle confirms.

People think "aggressive" means going after that deeper shot. Jimmy is aggressive in he thinks he can turn a sack into a 15 yard gain over one defender in front of another. And he can a heck of a lot of times. So much that we almost get used to it but those are throws only a handful of guys can make.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

i'll always have a soft spot for jimmy g.

from tom's would-be successor, to becoming the face of the niners, all the way to what looks like his final year in the bay... have always wanted to see polo succeed.

let's see how this latest chapter wraps up... 👀👀👀 pic.twitter.com/sN3Fb97Q2o

— Matt Sharpe (@daringsharpe) January 27, 2022

that photoshop is sick lol

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
There are different types of aggressiveness though.

as far as analytical stats go, he's 18th in Next Gen Stats' Aggressiveness metric. Saw this posted yesterday


I mean either way we're in the NFCC and he's played a part in that for sure...I kinda disagree with Lombardi's take on Jimmy being uber aggressive and that's why he turns the ball over a bunch. Just an opinion.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
There are different types of aggressiveness though.

as far as analytical stats go, he's 18th in Next Gen Stats' Aggressiveness metric. Saw this posted yesterday

Largest difference in big-time throws vs turnover-worthy plays this season. Meant in a bad way; more mistakes than elite throws (including playoffs PFF)

T1. Jimmy Garoppolo (-16)
T1. Mike Glennon (-16)
T3. Ben Roethlisberger (-12)
T3. Tua Tagovailoa (-12)
5. Taylor Heinicke (-9)

— Ian Hartitz (@Ihartitz) January 26, 2022

I mean either way we're in the NFCC and he's played a part in that for sure...I kinda disagree with Lombardi's take on Jimmy being uber aggressive and that's why he turns the ball over a bunch. Just an opinion.

That stat is very broad though. It counts any tight window throw (1 yard or less of separation), no matter where the defender is in relation to the ball and doesn't include the amount of defenders in the vicinity nor the difficulty of the throw (pressure, depth, location, etc.).

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
That stat is very broad though. It counts any tight window throw (1 yard or less of separation), no matter where the defender is in relation to the ball and doesn't include the amount of defenders in the vicinity nor the difficulty of the throw (pressure, depth, location, etc.).

which stat.. the Aggressive % or the difference in big-time throws vs turnover-worthy plays this season?

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
There are different types of aggressiveness though.

as far as analytical stats go, he's 18th in Next Gen Stats' Aggressiveness metric. Saw this posted yesterday

Largest difference in big-time throws vs turnover-worthy plays this season. Meant in a bad way; more mistakes than elite throws (including playoffs PFF)

T1. Jimmy Garoppolo (-16)
T1. Mike Glennon (-16)
T3. Ben Roethlisberger (-12)
T3. Tua Tagovailoa (-12)
5. Taylor Heinicke (-9)

— Ian Hartitz (@Ihartitz) January 26, 2022

I mean either way we're in the NFCC and he's played a part in that for sure...I kinda disagree with Lombardi's take on Jimmy being uber aggressive and that's why he turns the ball over a bunch. Just an opinion.

That stat is very broad though. It counts any tight window throw (1 yard or less of separation), no matter where the defender is in relation to the ball and doesn't include the amount of defenders in the vicinity nor the difficulty of the throw (pressure, depth, location, etc.).

I have a problem with stats like this. How do they determine what's a tight window. One yard or less when the ball gets there or when it's thrown? Receivers often have more separation early in a pattern and the QB either doesn't see it or looks elsewhere before he throws. The point being that the tight window can often be caused by the QB himself. Wait too long and that wide open guy can be covered quickly by a fast DB.

When I watch games I see guys that look wide open and wonder why the QB didn't see it. Then I see the replay and realize that he was in a poor throwing position or was just homed in on another receiver. Maybe ther ewas a defender in his line of site.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
That stat is very broad though. It counts any tight window throw (1 yard or less of separation), no matter where the defender is in relation to the ball and doesn't include the amount of defenders in the vicinity nor the difficulty of the throw (pressure, depth, location, etc.).

which stat.. the Aggressive % or the difference in big-time throws vs turnover-worthy plays this season?

Aggressive %