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Jan 27, 2022 at 9:04 AM
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat

he would probably say Ws are WR stat
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:07 AM
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat


They aren't. Team stat.
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:09 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
There are different types of aggressiveness though.

as far as analytical stats go, he's 18th in Next Gen Stats' Aggressiveness metric. Saw this posted yesterday


I mean either way we're in the NFCC and he's played a part in that for sure...I kinda disagree with Lombardi's take on Jimmy being uber aggressive and that's why he turns the ball over a bunch. Just an opinion.

You try so hard to politely put Jimmy down

He's not putting him down. Just suggesting the level he thinks he's at played.

You're just not as good at it as NY, sorry bro.

Don't think it has to do with being aggressive at all, personally. Just not an offense that currently relies on him to read and decipher defenses alot.

Which is fair given that it might be alot worse if it did, but we'll never know. Either way constantly throwing the ball once you see openings instead of anticipating them can often have consequences.
[ Edited by random49er on Jan 27, 2022 at 9:15 AM ]
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:11 AM
At some point, fans have got to maybe realize that they don't know everything? Maybe?

Did anyone see a fan yelling at Darius Slay on Crockers podcast? Saying, "you can't have watched all our games then, you don't watch our games!"

Lol like....Slay has played against Jimmy TWICE. Are we really gonna say an all pro CB who was part of a game plan against this team and Garoppolo twice, who spent two weeks watching film on him doesn't know Jimmybas well as fans who, "watch every game"? It's laughable.

Darius slay says it - doesn't count
Sherman says it - doesn't count.
Deebo says it - doesn't count
Staley says it - doesn't count
Kyle says it - doesn't count
Emmanuel Sanders says it - doesn't count
Juice says it - doesn't count
Bosa says it - doesn't count
Kittle says it - doesn't count
Andy Reid has said it - doesn't count

At some point, maybe fans can take a step back and realize that these guys might, just might have a little more knowledge about this.
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:11 AM
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Jan 27, 2022 at 9:12 AM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat


You think wins are indicative of a QBs performance?

I didn't tweet it, deebo Samuel did, take it up with him
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:12 AM
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat


They aren't. Team stat.

Except of course when they're not. You don't need to look any further than this thread to be aware of that BS hypocrisy. The TEAM wins but it's Jimmy who loses. You guys can't keep having it both ways.
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:13 AM
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
as far as analytical stats go, he's 18th in Next Gen Stats' Aggressiveness metric. Saw this posted yesterday


I mean either way we're in the NFCC and he's played a part in that for sure...I kinda disagree with Lombardi's take on Jimmy being uber aggressive and that's why he turns the ball over a bunch. Just an opinion.

anyone with eyeballs can see that his pick and his near picks were the result of him trying to do too much/be too aggressive. he shoukd have just thrown the ball away, yanno be more conservative.

Nah, Alex Smith conservative style probably won't suit Kyle. He is one aggressive SOB coach. Agree that Jimmy's picks are when he is a bit too aggressive, but also QBs tend to get inaccurate when they are hit while throwing. it is what it is. Its not like no other QBs in the NFL throws picks. There *is* another team trying to stop them, afterall.
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:15 AM
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Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat


They aren't. Team stat.

Except of course when they're not. You don't need to look any further than this thread to be aware of that BS hypocrisy. The TEAM wins but it's Jimmy who loses. You guys can't keep having it both ways.

Then why not the same amount of wins *like* Jimmy if Hoyer, Beathard, and Mullens are playing QB. Can't have it both ways now.
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:17 AM
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat


You think wins are indicative of a QBs performance?

I didn't tweet it, deebo Samuel did, take it up with him

I'm asking you though. Why not answer the question?
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:18 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat

he would probably say Ws are WR stat

Punters too.
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:18 AM
Originally posted by jonnydel:
At some point, fans have got to maybe realize that they don't know everything? Maybe?

Did anyone see a fan yelling at Darius Slay on Crockers podcast? Saying, "you can't have watched all our games then, you don't watch our games!"

Lol like....Slay has played against Jimmy TWICE. Are we really gonna say an all pro CB who was part of a game plan against this team and Garoppolo twice, who spent two weeks watching film on him doesn't know Jimmybas well as fans who, "watch every game"? It's laughable.

Darius slay says it - doesn't count
Sherman says it - doesn't count.
Deebo says it - doesn't count
Staley says it - doesn't count
Kyle says it - doesn't count
Emmanuel Sanders says it - doesn't count
Juice says it - doesn't count
Bosa says it - doesn't count
Kittle says it - doesn't count
Andy Reid has said it - doesn't count

At some point, maybe fans can take a step back and realize that these guys might, just might have a little more knowledge about this.

"Appeal to authority is a common type of fallacy, or an argument based on unsound logic.

When writers or speakers use appeal to authority, they are claiming that something must be true because it is believed by someone who said to be an "authority" on the subject."

https://www.softschools.com/examples/fallacies/appeal_to_authority_examples/430/
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:18 AM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I'm asking you though. Why not answer the question?

its a team stat but qbs play a major part

without jimmy kyle is 6-28
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Jan 27, 2022 at 9:19 AM ]
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:20 AM
Originally posted by jonnydel:
At some point, fans have got to maybe realize that they don't know everything? Maybe?

Did anyone see a fan yelling at Darius Slay on Crockers podcast? Saying, "you can't have watched all our games then, you don't watch our games!"

Lol like....Slay has played against Jimmy TWICE. Are we really gonna say an all pro CB who was part of a game plan against this team and Garoppolo twice, who spent two weeks watching film on him doesn't know Jimmybas well as fans who, "watch every game"? It's laughable.

Darius slay says it - doesn't count
Sherman says it - doesn't count.
Deebo says it - doesn't count
Staley says it - doesn't count
Kyle says it - doesn't count
Emmanuel Sanders says it - doesn't count
Juice says it - doesn't count
Bosa says it - doesn't count
Kittle says it - doesn't count
Andy Reid has said it - doesn't count

At some point, maybe fans can take a step back and realize that these guys might, just might have a little more knowledge about this.

Actions speak louder than words, and Sanders didn't even consider re-signing here
Jan 27, 2022 at 9:20 AM
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat


They aren't. Team stat.

Except of course when they're not. You don't need to look any further than this thread to be aware of that BS hypocrisy. The TEAM wins but it's Jimmy who loses. You guys can't keep having it both ways.

Then why not the same amount of wins *like* Jimmy if Hoyer, Beathard, and Mullens are playing QB. Can't have it both ways now.

Why is Jared Goff losing so much now, and Matt Stafford is winning so much?
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