Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Why are you so mad? Are we not playing to go the super bowl?

JESUS CHRIST.....the most important player on the field is the qb
thats why i'm mad. HE MUST MAKE PLAYS SUNDAY. He's the most fustrating player on the field
He has more ints than tds

you are now just noticing this

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by Joecool:
He has already admitted that the thumb affects some throws.

Jimmy hasn't made a bad read in the last three games.

WHAT !
FANDOM IS A HELL OF A DRUG

The throw to kittle FOR pick
STOP IT

Was not a "bad read." He simply tried to make a throw that he isn't capable of making. Jimmy does that sometimes, he's aggressive. Kittle also could have worked his way back to the QB, which WR's are supposed to do once plays break down and go off-script. Particularly sideline throws.

i think he makes that throw though if his shoulder was fine

Dang you JG for not allowing us to boast to other team fans how great you are. You need to pick it up on the stat sheet so we can say how much better you are than other QBs.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
For the most part. He's had some good throws. I can't wait till he's gone regardless the outcome of the season.

me too

Originally posted by Furlow:
Was not a "bad read." He simply tried to make a throw that he isn't capable of making. Jimmy does that sometimes, he's aggressive. Kittle also could have worked his way back to the QB, which WR's are supposed to do once plays break down and go off-script. Particularly sideline throws.

shannahan SAID IT WAS A BAD read. STEVIE WONDER COULD SEE THAT WAS A BAD read.

Originally posted by ritz126:
how many weak QBs make the SB 2 times in 2 years as starters?

There are no awards for just making it to the Super Bowl.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Quick, someone tell Deebo wins aren't a qb stat

Kraxy how y'all have so much to say about our quarterback…. Check His Win Percentage…. Okay I'll Wait. Pure Winner @JimmyG_10

— Deebo (@19problemz) January 27, 2022

They aren't. Team stat.

Except of course when they're not. You don't need to look any further than this thread to be aware of that BS hypocrisy. The TEAM wins but it's Jimmy who loses. You guys can't keep having it both ways.

Then why not the same amount of wins *like* Jimmy if Hoyer, Beathard, and Mullens are playing QB. Can't have it both ways now.

Why is Jared Goff losing so much now, and Matt Stafford is winning so much?

Why did the 49ers win on Saturday and why did the 49ers win.

Their last two drives are a big reason.

Great defense, STs touchdown, clutch last minute drive.
My point with the question I asked, which you failed to answer, is that did Goff suddenly forget how to be a winning QB?

It would be absurd to say that a qb winning is all because of the qb. Joe Montana played with HOF guys on both sides of the ball, same with Steve.

Dan Marino was unbelievable and never had a great team around him. Trent Dilfer was a backup quality qb on an unbelievable team.

The thing is, though, Dilfer never had a winning % anywhere close to Jimmy. Marino never had a team like Jimmy has.

But for people to act like he's the problem, not part of a solution(which we're still winning, so we've got a solution right now) is weird.

Doesn't make sense, at this point.

You'd have to believe that Kyle and John are the greatest HC and GM duo that has ever existed in the history of football to win like they have with Jimmy, to do it in spite of him.

I have criticized Jimmy for being a limited QB in terms of ability, but I won't doubt his ability to sack up and play well in high pressure situations. He is a part of the winning recipe that the 49ers have, but he is not the main ingredient. I don't think anyone is saying he is, just putting my opinion out there.

For me, and this is the point Slay and Sherman have made. Is Jimmy Mahomes? No. Is he winning like Mahomes? No.

But we won 3 straight road games in win or go home situations. So why in the world are people complaining so incredibly loudly?

Would you really rather be a Bills fan right now? Great qb play and watching other teams play to go to the SB?

I don't get what we're complaining about. Thought the point was to win.

As fans that look at the low level details of a game, you and I know that winning requires details. And whether the 49ers win or lose, you and I look at the whys and hows. STs could have really hurt the 49ers in the DAL game, but to dismiss STs as a weakness and just proclaim, "49ers won so why are we complaining" is a bit simplistic. I think this current playoff run has further fueled the Jimmy talk because he has very weak numbers, except for the all important Win column. But if you look beyond the Win column, there is a lot to talk about regarding Jimmy's play.

That's fair. But at the same point, the vitriolic levels, to the point of saying Jimmy does none of the work and the entire team carries him and the heated levels it gets it ridiculous to me, when we're still winning.

You know as well as anyone how heated this gets. I mean, how many times had this thread been locked?

That's my point. Why are we getting this heated about our quarterback considering where we are as a team. What's the point?

It's because he's a QB and football fans love talking about quarterbacks. I don't agree with anyone saying Jimmy is just along for the ride, or that he did none of the work. He was a part of building the early lead in DAL, and he helped drive the team down the field to set up Gould's field goal. What he did in Green Bay is admirable, no offense was going to do well in that weather.
I think folks see some of the other QBs slinging it all over the field and want that from the 49ers QB. That's not who Jimmy is and it's not who he needs to be to help this team win. What's the point? I think it's just to kill time until Sunday.

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Was not a "bad read." He simply tried to make a throw that he isn't capable of making. Jimmy does that sometimes, he's aggressive. Kittle also could have worked his way back to the QB, which WR's are supposed to do once plays break down and go off-script. Particularly sideline throws.

shannahan SAID IT WAS A BAD read. STEVIE WONDER COULD SEE THAT WAS A BAD read.

This is Kyle's quote about Jimmy after the Packers game.

"I thought Jimmy battled," head coach Kyle Shanahan said after the game. "I know he had that bad pick, which was unfortunate. That wasn't a good play. But some of the plays Jimmy made in the first half—I mean, the throw to Kittle was going to be a touchdown, and Kittle missed that. One play later, when they blitzed us, for him to get it off to Jauan [Jennings], and give a chance, I thought Jimmy made some really good plays in this game.

"I don't think people understand what that's kind of like out there, but I was happy with everybody."

Do you have a quote from Kyle saying it was a "bad read?"

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by ritz126:
how many weak QBs make the SB 2 times in 2 years as starters?

There are no awards for just making it to the Super Bowl.

actually you are the one who said we cant win with Jimmy and he has got us there 2x

and if we win i bet you will come here and say it was completely in spite of jimmy. The fact is he has consistently made clutch throws for us to help put the games away or come back from behind

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
You're mad because we win and you think the qb needs to play better to win again?

Just trying to figure out why we're mad after we won. Cause you know, that's the point of football. To win.

I'm mad because our qb is crap
you cant have weak qb play and win

🤔🤔
Ummmm.....I hate to tell you, but we're winning while 28 other teams are at home.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by ritz126:
how many weak QBs make the SB 2 times in 2 years as starters?

There are no awards for just making it to the Super Bowl.

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Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by Joecool:
He has already admitted that the thumb affects some throws.

Jimmy hasn't made a bad read in the last three games.

WHAT !
FANDOM IS A HELL OF A DRUG

The throw to kittle FOR pick
STOP IT

Was not a "bad read." He simply tried to make a throw that he isn't capable of making. Jimmy does that sometimes, he's aggressive. Kittle also could have worked his way back to the QB, which WR's are supposed to do once plays break down and go off-script. Particularly sideline throws.

i think he makes that throw though if his shoulder was fine

Maybe. Would have helped if he planted before as well. To me it was too late of a decision, and being first down too risky. But he's made some crazy throws during this time here so who are we to nitpick. Just enjoying the ride while it lasts (likely not much longer).

I like Jimmy. He's given us some crazy good memories and W's since 2017. I will agree that one day it will be nice to go into a game and not have to worry about QB play. I'd rather bad QB play surprise me rather than me going into a game expecting it. Like if Josh Allen were our QB I would go into every game knowing he's about to drop 300 yds and 3 TDS. And when he doesn't i'll be surprised and like damn that sucks.

Right now (since the Dallas game really) I have low expectations for Jimmy and high expectations for the run game. He has played bad as much as I don't want to admit it. He came through on the final drive against GB. I'm going into this game hoping those flat routes near pick 6's aren't thrown, and that hero ball throw he made to Kittle isn't attempted again. I will be pleasantly surprised if he gives us that 2019 Saints, 2021 Bears/Bengals/Lions performance. I wish I could expect it though.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
You're mad because we win and you think the qb needs to play better to win again?

Just trying to figure out why we're mad after we won. Cause you know, that's the point of football. To win.

I'm mad because our qb is crap
you cant have weak qb play and win

what are we doing then? unless youre calling jimmy play strong

I'm saying we're in the NFC CG against a team Jimmy is 5-0 against. Whats the complaining about?

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Exactly right. I've stated this many times before. Some people on here would rather have a qb throw for 5000 yards 40tds, and go 6 and 10. Disgusting.

wow..when as that ever happen?

Just look at the Texans in 2020. Or packers in 2018. It happens.