Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Nah bro it's about who actually takes the time to watch film before forming opinions and who doesn't.

No it isn't. The dude who I replied to certainly doesn't watch film and discuss the nuances of it.
Johnnydel is the only one who we see breaking down film here and he is one you would call a they.

Anyone who claimed Jimmy and Stafford are the same, except Jimmy is a winner and Stafford is a loser, DID NOT watch any film on Stafford.

As for johnnydel, breaking down film and posting it on YouTube is not the same thing as watching film. It's more than watching film. What that means is that means he has a pursuit of becoming a YouTuber and takes the excruciating time to make those videos AFTER watching the film. That doesn't mean he's the only one that watches film or knows the game to some degree.
He, however, as far as I can recall, wasn't even involved in the Stafford thread. I imagine if he was, he would have not been spectacularly wrong like some of you guys were, because, as you said, he watches film.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Us?

I don't do Us and Them but I am definitely not one of fhe Stafford fans gloating about their SB win. Congrats.

Have fun repeating the same points in your game of US and Them with other 49er fans.

This is just like those terrible Alex threads.

Here we go again. JFC give it a rest, Woo.

I didn't bring him up. Someone else did, out of the blue for no reason.

Yeah to be fair he was just replying to someone who brought it up to him.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Nah bro it's about who actually takes the time to watch film before forming opinions and who doesn't.

No it isn't. The dude who I replied to certainly doesn't watch film and discuss the nuances of it.
Johnnydel is the only one who we see breaking down film here and he is one you would call a they.

Anyone who claimed Jimmy and Stafford are the same, except Jimmy is a winner and Stafford is a loser, DID NOT watch any film on Stafford.

They are both different QBs. Staffy way more durable, bigger arm, more inventive with his ability to throw from different arm angles, better at recognizing pre snap coverage and pass rush. JG has his own unique skill set. JG has a 99 career rating and it would be fascinating to see his career accomplishments if he didn't have the durability of cold glass exposed to hot water.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Just cut this guy already and give Deebo his 4 yr 110 million contract and Bosa his 5 year 150 million contract already and let's go, no more worries, Paraag work your magic, back end the contracts and then go sign Turay, and Nelson or Callahan. Go in the draft with bpa with a trade up from 61 then S, OL, and WR.

I wish it were that simple but it is not. They need all of that money left on Jimmy's contract. They would be paying him $7.5 million if they cut him before he clears a medical exam. Which is not likely to occur until late July because of Jimmy's recent shoulder surgery.

I like the fact that Deebo maybe forcing the FO's hand. The FO needs to make a decision. Is it him or Jimmy that they feel is more important to the team.

Guess I'm late to this, but all I've seen is something about Deebo not following the team on social media? Is he really forcing their hand or is it a story getting ginned up during a slow offseason? I'm 100% Jimmy will be gone on e his recovery is complete - whether traded or cut, and at that point we'll be working on a new Deebo deal. Is there any more to it than that?

This is what we have been debating over the past week. There are some who believe that Jimmy will be the QB1 again this season because they are under the assumption that Trey isn't ready because they didn't name a starter in April. Technically, anything is possible as long as Jimmy is still here. Do I believe it? No. But that is beside the point.

As for your response to my post. When a player begins distancing themself from the team, it is never a good sign. It was more than just unfollowing. He deleted every pic on his social media that shown him in 49ers gear.

I don't want to take away from anything Deebo has done for this team, but at some point we need to separate what players can do from what Shanny can get out of them. Deebo and Bosa extensions are top on my wish list, but the question needs to be asked: would Kyle be able to get similar play from a draft pick as he has been able to get out of Deebo? I certainly have more faith in that than say getting similar production to a guy like Bosa. Deebo has been schemed into positions where he can be a superstar. Bosa just is a superstar. I hope we can keep both, but I'd be more confident that we CAN replace Deebo than Bosa.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Nah bro it's about who actually takes the time to watch film before forming opinions and who doesn't.

No it isn't. The dude who I replied to certainly doesn't watch film and discuss the nuances of it.
Johnnydel is the only one who we see breaking down film here and he is one you would call a they.

Anyone who claimed Jimmy and Stafford are the same, except Jimmy is a winner and Stafford is a loser, DID NOT watch any film on Stafford.

As for johnnydel, breaking down film and posting it on YouTube is not the same thing as watching film. It's more than watching film. What that means is that means he has a pursuit of becoming a YouTuber and takes the excruciating time to make those videos AFTER watching the film. That doesn't mean he's the only one that watches film or knows the game to some degree.
He, however, as far as I can recall, wasn't even involved in the Stafford thread. I imagine if he was, he would have not been spectacularly wrong like some of you guys were, because, as you said, he watches film.

I said Stafford was older, a loser and ranked 8-15th.

Why are you guys using this thread to stroke Stafford so much?

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

I don't want to take away from anything Deebo has done for this team, but at some point we need to separate what players can do from what Shanny can get out of them. Deebo and Bosa extensions are top on my wish list, but the question needs to be asked: would Kyle be able to get similar play from a draft pick as he has been able to get out of Deebo? I certainly have more faith in that than say getting similar production to a guy like Bosa. Deebo has been schemed into positions where he can be a superstar. Bosa just is a superstar. I hope we can keep both, but I'd be more confident that we CAN replace Deebo than Bosa.

No, Deebo is the only really good WR Kyle has developed. Aiyuk will make two.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Us?

I don't do Us and Them but I am definitely not one of fhe Stafford fans gloating about their SB win. Congrats.

Have fun repeating the same points in your game of US and Them with other 49er fans.

This is just like those terrible Alex threads.

Here we go again. JFC give it a rest, Woo.

I didn't bring him up. Someone else did, out of the blue for no reason.

Yeah to be fair he was just replying to someone who brought it up to him.

No he didn't. He replied to my post laughing at the clusterf**k that was the previous days worth of posts with that sock puppet and a few regulars. It was lol worthy. No one mentioned Stafford except him and you.

I just want to say f**k Stafford and f**k the Rams. If you guys want to rub one out to him, then you can go here

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/184984-super-bowl-champions-los-angeles-rams-thread/

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Us?

I don't do Us and Them but I am definitely not one of fhe Stafford fans gloating about their SB win. Congrats.

Have fun repeating the same points in your game of US and Them with other 49er fans.

This is just like those terrible Alex threads.

Here we go again. JFC give it a rest, Woo.

I didn't bring him up. Someone else did, out of the blue for no reason.

Yeah to be fair he was just replying to someone who brought it up to him.

No he didn't. He replied to my post laughing at the clusterf**k that was the previous days worth of posts with that sock puppet and a few regulars. It was lol worthy. No one mentioned Stafford except him and you.

No kidding. Hence why I said YOU were just replying to someone who brought it up to you. As in, YOU are not the one who brought up Stafford.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I just want to say f**k Stafford and f**k the Rams. If you guys want to rub one out to him, then you can go here

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/184984-super-bowl-champions-los-angeles-rams-thread/

It's not rubbing one out to Stafford. It's more like this:

Kyle = guys here who think Jimmy is Jesus.
Us = Cartman

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I just want to say f**k Stafford and f**k the Rams. If you guys want to rub one out to him, then you can go here

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/184984-super-bowl-champions-los-angeles-rams-thread/

It's not rubbing one out to Stafford. It's more like this:

Kyle = guys here who think Jimmy is Jesus.
Us = Cartman

it's rubbing one out to Stafford. He's a Ram. Let's move on already. Or go to the proper thread to do this



Again, f**k Stafford and f**k the Rams!

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
I don't want to take away from anything Deebo has done for this team, but at some point we need to separate what players can do from what Shanny can get out of them. Deebo and Bosa extensions are top on my wish list, but the question needs to be asked: would Kyle be able to get similar play from a draft pick as he has been able to get out of Deebo? I certainly have more faith in that than say getting similar production to a guy like Bosa. Deebo has been schemed into positions where he can be a superstar. Bosa just is a superstar. I hope we can keep both, but I'd be more confident that we CAN replace Deebo than Bosa.

No, Deebo is the only really good WR Kyle has developed. Aiyuk will make two.

Can't wait to see what Aiyuk does with Trey. Hoping the chemistry they build in offseason pours over to regular season and Trey can be the dude that takes advantage of what Aiyuk can really do.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by jersey49er:
Just cut this guy already and give Deebo his 4 yr 110 million contract and Bosa his 5 year 150 million contract already and let's go, no more worries, Paraag work your magic, back end the contracts and then go sign Turay, and Nelson or Callahan. Go in the draft with bpa with a trade up from 61 then S, OL, and WR.

I wish it were that simple but it is not. They need all of that money left on Jimmy's contract. They would be paying him $7.5 million if they cut him before he clears a medical exam. Which is not likely to occur until late July because of Jimmy's recent shoulder surgery.

I like the fact that Deebo maybe forcing the FO's hand. The FO needs to make a decision. Is it him or Jimmy that they feel is more important to the team.

Guess I'm late to this, but all I've seen is something about Deebo not following the team on social media? Is he really forcing their hand or is it a story getting ginned up during a slow offseason? I'm 100% Jimmy will be gone on e his recovery is complete - whether traded or cut, and at that point we'll be working on a new Deebo deal. Is there any more to it than that?

This is what we have been debating over the past week. There are some who believe that Jimmy will be the QB1 again this season because they are under the assumption that Trey isn't ready because they didn't name a starter in April. Technically, anything is possible as long as Jimmy is still here. Do I believe it? No. But that is beside the point.

As for your response to my post. When a player begins distancing themself from the team, it is never a good sign. It was more than just unfollowing. He deleted every pic on his social media that shown him in 49ers gear.

I don't want to take away from anything Deebo has done for this team, but at some point we need to separate what players can do from what Shanny can get out of them. Deebo and Bosa extensions are top on my wish list, but the question needs to be asked: would Kyle be able to get similar play from a draft pick as he has been able to get out of Deebo? I certainly have more faith in that than say getting similar production to a guy like Bosa. Deebo has been schemed into positions where he can be a superstar. Bosa just is a superstar. I hope we can keep both, but I'd be more confident that we CAN replace Deebo than Bosa.

Draft picks are hit or miss as we have seen with Pettis and others. Why you want to risk missing again when you have already found your guy? Just doesn't make much sense.

Jimmy continues to f**k this team like he f**ks old washed up D list porn stars.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Jimmy continues to f**k this team like he f**ks old washed up D list porn stars.

If you really believe Jimmy has anything to do with Deebos contract negotiations lol