Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Umm do you understand salary cap at all? Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

Biggest falsehood currently being peddled: Jimmy Garoppolo's cap hit is somehow preventing 49ers from extending Deebo Samuel.

SF can actually keep Samuel's 2022 cap hit the same/maybe even lower it with an extension. This is simply about finding an agreeable long-term deal

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 7, 2022

And we don't do that. Look at the new contracts guys like AA, Warner, Kittle got. We don't back load that hard bc that's how you set yourself up for bad salary cap issues later on. You then are at the mercy of the player to want to restructure, and not every player wants to.

We are at 1.5 mil above the cap, there is no way to get Deebo on a contract that benefits us as well while Jimmy is on the books. Especially since we will have to sign our rookies.

Thats not what you said. Own it

Its going to blow people minds when we resign him to a massive contract and lower his cap hit.

Not really. At least not mine. I'm just saying it would be out of the norm when it comes to how we extend our own players.

This is what you said.

Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

It depends on how it's structured. He's already signed for 2022 so any extensions will be for 2023 and beyond.

Sure but he insinuated others were clowns when he was flat out wrong. We can extend him right now with Jimmy. He blames Jimmy for everything. A Jimmy victim

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
LOL at this thread.

Multiple LOLs @ loser Stafford

Triggered?
Not sure what that reply has to do with anything Niner related.

I mean it's just about how arrogant people were whilst being so incredibly wrong. I feel like dealing with the arrogance has earned us the right to rub in the fact that we were right all along, that as soon as Stafford got legitimate help he'd become a winning QB.

Us?

I don't do Us and Them but I am definitely not one of fhe Stafford fans gloating about their SB win. Congrats.

Have fun repeating the same points in your game of US and Them with other 49er fans.

This is just like those terrible Alex threads.

Nothing wrong with simply saying you were wrong, Woo? Otherwise,....be ready for a long ride.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Nah bro it's about who actually takes the time to watch film before forming opinions and who doesn't.

No it isn't. The dude who I replied to certainly doesn't watch film and discuss the nuances of it.
Johnnydel is the only one who we see breaking down film here and he is one you would call a they.

Well,....Jonny hasn't gone out of his way to bring up any opposing QB out of nowhere over and over and over again....only to be so horribly wrong about his stance in the very same thread.

So yea,...that's me defending Jonny here for once.

Stafford has been mostly off topic here the entire time but that never stopped u from invoking his name. Now that your favorite deflection topic has proven you completely wrong about your repeated stance,...you are complaining that he is being brought up off topic?

Again,...take the L with pride. It's ok.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Nah bro it's about who actually takes the time to watch film before forming opinions and who doesn't.

No it isn't. The dude who I replied to certainly doesn't watch film and discuss the nuances of it.
Johnnydel is the only one who we see breaking down film here and he is one you would call a they.

Well,....Jonny hasn't gone out of his way to bring up any opposing QB out of nowhere over and over and over again....only to be so horribly wrong about his stance in the very same thread.

So yea,...that's me defending Jonny here for once.

Stafford has been mostly off topic here the entire time but that never stopped u from invoking his name. Now that your favorite deflection topic has proven you completely wrong about your repeated stance,...you are complaining that he is being brought up off topic?

Again,...take the L with pride. It's ok.

Dude, you getting kinda creepy obsessed.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Anyone who claimed Jimmy and Stafford are the same, except Jimmy is a winner and Stafford is a loser, DID NOT watch any film on Stafford.

As for johnnydel, breaking down film and posting it on YouTube is not the same thing as watching film. It's more than watching film. What that means is that means he has a pursuit of becoming a YouTuber and takes the excruciating time to make those videos AFTER watching the film. That doesn't mean he's the only one that watches film or knows the game to some degree.
He, however, as far as I can recall, wasn't even involved in the Stafford thread. I imagine if he was, he would have not been spectacularly wrong like some of you guys were, because, as you said, he watches film.

Lol thing is,...the poster you're replying to has committed all of his crimes in THIS thread,...long, long before Stafford was ever a trade topic.

I myself have never really seen much of the Stafford thread.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Umm do you understand salary cap at all? Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

Biggest falsehood currently being peddled: Jimmy Garoppolo's cap hit is somehow preventing 49ers from extending Deebo Samuel.

SF can actually keep Samuel's 2022 cap hit the same/maybe even lower it with an extension. This is simply about finding an agreeable long-term deal

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 7, 2022

Just because it's possible to extend Deebo without dramatically increasing his 2022 salary doesn't mean it's possible to do that AND make Deebo happy.

Well that's on Deebo. The clown was wrong.

No, if Deebo wants his salary in 2022 to be dramatically raised, then TheGore49er is right and everyone who called him a clown needs to look in the mirror.

100% wrong

Really? If Deebo wants 20 million per year for 2022, how are the 49ers going to pay him with Jimmy's contract, short of future-mortgaging restructures?

If the money is guaranteed in the future years regardless of injury, I'd imagine 2022 doesn't really matter. Unless he wants to buy a few mansions and some whips lol. He seems very down to earth tho.

To be fair. I can't see any scenario where JG is on this Ritter next year and at most we're getting a 4th, maybe a 3rd for him..... I'd just cut him and move on.

What if it does to Deebo? that was part of the stipulation of my argument. Dropping that creates a strawman which has nothing to do with anything I've said. And why wouldn't he want money now? Money in your hand now is generally more valuable than money that you'll probably get later (this is called the time value of money).

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Really? If Deebo wants 20 million per year for 2022, how are the 49ers going to pay him with Jimmy's contract, short of future-mortgaging restructures?

Quit moving the goalposts. The conversation from 🤡 was that we could not extend Deebo this year. I know you guys are all a clique but he was wrong as always. Let him protect himself for once.

It's not a moving of a goalpost. It's a legitimate possibility that not being paid NOW is part of why Deebo is upset. I have no idea if the guy you are arguing with considered that possibility or not. But since he didn't explicitly write it, I did.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Umm do you understand salary cap at all? Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

Biggest falsehood currently being peddled: Jimmy Garoppolo's cap hit is somehow preventing 49ers from extending Deebo Samuel.

SF can actually keep Samuel's 2022 cap hit the same/maybe even lower it with an extension. This is simply about finding an agreeable long-term deal

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 7, 2022

Just because it's possible to extend Deebo without dramatically increasing his 2022 salary doesn't mean it's possible to do that AND make Deebo happy.

Well that's on Deebo. The clown was wrong.

No, if Deebo wants his salary in 2022 to be dramatically raised, then TheGore49er is right and everyone who called him a clown needs to look in the mirror.

100% wrong

Really? If Deebo wants 20 million per year for 2022, how are the 49ers going to pay him with Jimmy's contract, short of future-mortgaging restructures?

If the money is guaranteed in the future years regardless of injury, I'd imagine 2022 doesn't really matter. Unless he wants to buy a few mansions and some whips lol. He seems very down to earth tho.

To be fair. I can't see any scenario where JG is on this Ritter next year and at most we're getting a 4th, maybe a 3rd for him..... I'd just cut him and move on.

What if it does to Deebo? that was part of the stipulation of my argument. Dropping that creates a strawman which has nothing to do with anything I've said. And why wouldn't he want money now? Money in your hand now is generally more valuable than money that you'll probably get later (this is called the time value of money).

I guess if Deebo wants to be the only person in the last 10 years to be this big of a dick he could ask for it this way. He wont. But your crazy scenario is correct. He could.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Umm do you understand salary cap at all? Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

Biggest falsehood currently being peddled: Jimmy Garoppolo's cap hit is somehow preventing 49ers from extending Deebo Samuel.

SF can actually keep Samuel's 2022 cap hit the same/maybe even lower it with an extension. This is simply about finding an agreeable long-term deal

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 7, 2022

And we don't do that. Look at the new contracts guys like AA, Warner, Kittle got. We don't back load that hard bc that's how you set yourself up for bad salary cap issues later on. You then are at the mercy of the player to want to restructure, and not every player wants to.

We are at 1.5 mil above the cap, there is no way to get Deebo on a contract that benefits us as well while Jimmy is on the books. Especially since we will have to sign our rookies.

Thats not what you said. Own it

Its going to blow people minds when we resign him to a massive contract and lower his cap hit.

Not really. At least not mine. I'm just saying it would be out of the norm when it comes to how we extend our own players.

This is what you said.

Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

It depends on how it's structured. He's already signed for 2022 so any extensions will be for 2023 and beyond.

Sure but he insinuated others were clowns when he was flat out wrong. We can extend him right now with Jimmy. He blames Jimmy for everything. A Jimmy victim

Clown emoji was used bc the other guy posted it as well. Stop white knighting so much lmao.

I'm just going by how this FO has operated so far. Deebo can definitely be different here, but he also has to accept the offer. In our case we can't make the contract as of now without really back loading it and also giving Deebo very nice signing bonus so his agent can be happy with a very back loaded contract.

Overall this FO has a done good job with contracts where both parties are happy, and that won't be the case right now.

Imo Deebo will get his contract once Jimmy passes his physical and is cut or traded.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Umm do you understand salary cap at all? Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

Biggest falsehood currently being peddled: Jimmy Garoppolo's cap hit is somehow preventing 49ers from extending Deebo Samuel.

SF can actually keep Samuel's 2022 cap hit the same/maybe even lower it with an extension. This is simply about finding an agreeable long-term deal

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 7, 2022

Just because it's possible to extend Deebo without dramatically increasing his 2022 salary doesn't mean it's possible to do that AND make Deebo happy.

Well that's on Deebo. The clown was wrong.

No, if Deebo wants his salary in 2022 to be dramatically raised, then TheGore49er is right and everyone who called him a clown needs to look in the mirror.

100% wrong

Really? If Deebo wants 20 million per year for 2022, how are the 49ers going to pay him with Jimmy's contract, short of future-mortgaging restructures?

Look at every contract extension in the last 10 years. First year is always minimum against the cap with huge signing bonus to spread out. He isn't getting 20 year one and a signing bonus.

Mike Williams new contract has a 28 million total in cash payout in year one.
https://overthecap.com/player/mike-williams/5591/

And of course, Jimmy's contract had 37 million in year one (28 million dollar roster bonus), and only 17 million and 15.5 million guaranteed in year two and three respectfully.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Umm do you understand salary cap at all? Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

Biggest falsehood currently being peddled: Jimmy Garoppolo's cap hit is somehow preventing 49ers from extending Deebo Samuel.

SF can actually keep Samuel's 2022 cap hit the same/maybe even lower it with an extension. This is simply about finding an agreeable long-term deal

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 7, 2022

Just because it's possible to extend Deebo without dramatically increasing his 2022 salary doesn't mean it's possible to do that AND make Deebo happy.

Well that's on Deebo. The clown was wrong.

No, if Deebo wants his salary in 2022 to be dramatically raised, then TheGore49er is right and everyone who called him a clown needs to look in the mirror.

100% wrong

Really? If Deebo wants 20 million per year for 2022, how are the 49ers going to pay him with Jimmy's contract, short of future-mortgaging restructures?

If the money is guaranteed in the future years regardless of injury, I'd imagine 2022 doesn't really matter. Unless he wants to buy a few mansions and some whips lol. He seems very down to earth tho.

To be fair. I can't see any scenario where JG is on this Ritter next year and at most we're getting a 4th, maybe a 3rd for him..... I'd just cut him and move on.

What if it does to Deebo? that was part of the stipulation of my argument. Dropping that creates a strawman which has nothing to do with anything I've said. And why wouldn't he want money now? Money in your hand now is generally more valuable than money that you'll probably get later (this is called the time value of money).

I guess if Deebo wants to be the only person in the last 10 years to be this big of a dick he could ask for it this way. He wont. But your crazy scenario is correct. He could.

As I said in the above post, Mike Williams is getting 28 million this year.
https://overthecap.com/player/mike-williams/5591/

14 of it counts against the cap. So where are we gonna get that 9 more million when we have 1 to 2 million to spare? EDIT — that's just to match Mike Williams, who I sure Deebo feels is not on his level.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Umm do you understand salary cap at all? Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

Biggest falsehood currently being peddled: Jimmy Garoppolo's cap hit is somehow preventing 49ers from extending Deebo Samuel.

SF can actually keep Samuel's 2022 cap hit the same/maybe even lower it with an extension. This is simply about finding an agreeable long-term deal

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 7, 2022

Just because it's possible to extend Deebo without dramatically increasing his 2022 salary doesn't mean it's possible to do that AND make Deebo happy.

Well that's on Deebo. The clown was wrong.

No, if Deebo wants his salary in 2022 to be dramatically raised, then TheGore49er is right and everyone who called him a clown needs to look in the mirror.

100% wrong

Really? If Deebo wants 20 million per year for 2022, how are the 49ers going to pay him with Jimmy's contract, short of future-mortgaging restructures?

If the money is guaranteed in the future years regardless of injury, I'd imagine 2022 doesn't really matter. Unless he wants to buy a few mansions and some whips lol. He seems very down to earth tho.

To be fair. I can't see any scenario where JG is on this Ritter next year and at most we're getting a 4th, maybe a 3rd for him..... I'd just cut him and move on.

What if it does to Deebo? that was part of the stipulation of my argument. Dropping that creates a strawman which has nothing to do with anything I've said. And why wouldn't he want money now? Money in your hand now is generally more valuable than money that you'll probably get later (this is called the time value of money).

I guess if Deebo wants to be the only person in the last 10 years to be this big of a dick he could ask for it this way. He wont. But your crazy scenario is correct. He could.

As I said in the above post, Mike Williams is getting 28 million this year.
https://overthecap.com/player/mike-williams/5591/

14 of it counts against the cap. So where are we gonna get that 9 more million when we have 1 to 2 million to spare? EDIT — that's just to match Mike Williams, who I sure Deebo feels is not on his level.

Totally different situation with Chargers having a fortune to spend, but as I said if Deebo wants to be this kind of dick he has the right.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Really? If Deebo wants 20 million per year for 2022, how are the 49ers going to pay him with Jimmy's contract, short of future-mortgaging restructures?

Quit moving the goalposts. The conversation from 🤡 was that we could not extend Deebo this year. I know you guys are all a clique but he was wrong as always. Let him protect himself for once.

It's not a moving of a goalpost. It's a legitimate possibility that not being paid NOW is part of why Deebo is upset. I have no idea if the guy you are arguing with considered that possibility or not. But since he didn't explicitly write it, I did.

It's already been demonstrated that with an extension the hit wouldn't really kick in til 2023. JG ain't stopping anything here folks despite the desire to use him as whipping boy for all 49er sins.

Pissing off your best players one at a time. Not the best look.

Originally posted by NDSU:
Pissing off your best players one at a time. Not the best look.

they babied hurd till they had no choice., they screwed up 100 per cent with buck. they put themselves in a corner with ford. they played chicken with jimmy and the nfl cuz they thought the rest of the nfl was stupid. wonder what lynch will do for an encore with deebo. no matter what he does. his supporters will lap it up even if it means deebo will go.. you can already see some of them planting those seeds already. proactive cover for lynch and the front office.. despite what some think.. the front office and management is not always right