Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by NDSU:
Pissing off your best players one at a time. Not the best look.

Ahem..

"I think part of this also - the optics of it. Jimmy Garoppolo is dealing with a shoulder surgery. Should the 49ers cut him? I think they should. Will they? Probably not. Why? They have an imagine to maintain as well. They want to continue to do right by the players that are on their roster.

Dee Ford should have been gone a long time ago. He's still here. Brock Coyle was released, but they still paid him. They took care of him. They tried to help facilitate other trades with players. They honored NaVorro Bowman's request. They take care of their players as they leave.

I think it's the same with Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't think that they owe that to Jimmy, but it's just kind of how they operate...I think this is where having John Lynch the player as a general manager as comes into effect here."

I'm sure Lynch has seen plenty of cold, calculating moves by NFL franchises during his Hall of Fame career. It does seem like both he and Kyle Shanahan, who grew up in the NFL, treat their players with more respect than most teams.

Originally posted by random49er:

Nothing wrong with simply saying you were wrong, Woo? Otherwise,....be ready for a long ride.

This was all discussed at the end of the season. You were there.

Why bring him up randomly now?

Originally posted by random49er:

Well,....Jonny hasn't gone out of his way to bring up any opposing QB out of nowhere over and over and over again....only to be so horribly wrong about his stance in the very same thread.

So yea,...that's me defending Jonny here for once.

Stafford has been mostly off topic here the entire time but that never stopped u from invoking his name. Now that your favorite deflection topic has proven you completely wrong about your repeated stance,...you are complaining that he is being brought up off topic?

Again,...take the L with pride. It's ok.

I posted "lol at this thread" after the back and forth with a bunch of sock puppet accounts trolling and getting responses.

You replied to my comment with a post about Stafford. Why did you bring him up put of nowhere?

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Dude, you getting kinda creepy obsessed.

It is odd.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Ahem..

"I think part of this also - the optics of it. Jimmy Garoppolo is dealing with a shoulder surgery. Should the 49ers cut him? I think they should. Will they? Probably not. Why? They have an imagine to maintain as well. They want to continue to do right by the players that are on their roster.

Dee Ford should have been gone a long time ago. He's still here. Brock Coyle was released, but they still paid him. They took care of him. They tried to help facilitate other trades with players. They honored NaVorro Bowman's request. They take care of their players as they leave.

I think it's the same with Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't think that they owe that to Jimmy, but it's just kind of how they operate...I think this is where having John Lynch the player as a general manager as comes into effect here."

I'm sure Lynch has seen plenty of cold, calculating moves by NFL franchises during his Hall of Fame career. It does seem like both he and Kyle Shanahan, who grew up in the NFL, treat their players with more respect than most teams.

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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Umm do you understand salary cap at all? Lynch literally said the plan is for Deebo to have a new contract this offseason. Can't happen with Jimmy still on the books bc we don't have enough money. 🤡

Biggest falsehood currently being peddled: Jimmy Garoppolo's cap hit is somehow preventing 49ers from extending Deebo Samuel.

SF can actually keep Samuel's 2022 cap hit the same/maybe even lower it with an extension. This is simply about finding an agreeable long-term deal

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) April 7, 2022

Just because it's possible to extend Deebo without dramatically increasing his 2022 salary doesn't mean it's possible to do that AND make Deebo happy.

Well that's on Deebo. The clown was wrong.

No, if Deebo wants his salary in 2022 to be dramatically raised, then TheGore49er is right and everyone who called him a clown needs to look in the mirror.

100% wrong

Really? If Deebo wants 20 million per year for 2022, how are the 49ers going to pay him with Jimmy's contract, short of future-mortgaging restructures?

If the money is guaranteed in the future years regardless of injury, I'd imagine 2022 doesn't really matter. Unless he wants to buy a few mansions and some whips lol. He seems very down to earth tho.

To be fair. I can't see any scenario where JG is on this Ritter next year and at most we're getting a 4th, maybe a 3rd for him..... I'd just cut him and move on.

What if it does to Deebo? that was part of the stipulation of my argument. Dropping that creates a strawman which has nothing to do with anything I've said. And why wouldn't he want money now? Money in your hand now is generally more valuable than money that you'll probably get later (this is called the time value of money).

I guess if Deebo wants to be the only person in the last 10 years to be this big of a dick he could ask for it this way. He wont. But your crazy scenario is correct. He could.

As I said in the above post, Mike Williams is getting 28 million this year.
https://overthecap.com/player/mike-williams/5591/

14 of it counts against the cap. So where are we gonna get that 9 more million when we have 1 to 2 million to spare? EDIT — that's just to match Mike Williams, who I sure Deebo feels is not on his level.

It's still early in the offseason to get a deal done. Jimmy's money is not guaranteed. He can get cut and that money can be used towards Deebos contract. Assuming they come to an agreement. That's why it's clownish to say Jimmy is f**king the team again when there are ways around it. Lombardi set out one way to do it. Im sure Paarage is smart enough to figure out all the ins n outs.

but again, assuming they come to agreement. It's still early, nothing needs to get done today. It's just a bunch of impatient posters needing immediate satisfaction and blaming Jimmy for it lol.

What's the chances of Jimmy milking the injury in July so he doesn't get cut? He's going to want to hang onto that $27 Million for dear life. If he is healthy he loses the $7.5 Million. Jimmy being cut in July when he is healthy will be the worse thing for him. No team out there will need a starter, He has no guaranteed money, No team will have any cap space to give him much of anything. But if he says he is still hurt, He atleast gets that $7.5 Million.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What's the chances of Jimmy milking the injury in July so he doesn't get cut? He's going to want to hang onto that $27 Million for dear life. If he is healthy he loses the $7.5 Million. Jimmy being cut in July when he is healthy will be the worse thing for him. No team out there will need a starter, He has no guaranteed money, No team will have any cap space to give him much of anything. But if he says he is still hurt, He atleast gets that $7.5 Million.

Jimmy has his thumb to fall back on, for more milking time

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What's the chances of Jimmy milking the injury in July so he doesn't get cut? He's going to want to hang onto that $27 Million for dear life. If he is healthy he loses the $7.5 Million. Jimmy being cut in July when he is healthy will be the worse thing for him. No team out there will need a starter, He has no guaranteed money, No team will have any cap space to give him much of anything. But if he says he is still hurt, He atleast gets that $7.5 Million.

I think it's possible. But I just do not see JG doing this kind of thing. I could be wrong. But, I expect JG to clear any medical hurdles in line with the expected timeline.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What's the chances of Jimmy milking the injury in July so he doesn't get cut? He's going to want to hang onto that $27 Million for dear life. If he is healthy he loses the $7.5 Million. Jimmy being cut in July when he is healthy will be the worse thing for him. No team out there will need a starter, He has no guaranteed money, No team will have any cap space to give him much of anything. But if he says he is still hurt, He atleast gets that $7.5 Million.

Jimmy has his thumb to fall back on, for more milking time

That's what I'm afraid of to be honest. And then if he on the roster week one, he goes to IR with that salary now guaranteed.

Jimmy going to fall down the stairs to screw over the niners lol

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What's the chances of Jimmy milking the injury in July so he doesn't get cut? He's going to want to hang onto that $27 Million for dear life. If he is healthy he loses the $7.5 Million. Jimmy being cut in July when he is healthy will be the worse thing for him. No team out there will need a starter, He has no guaranteed money, No team will have any cap space to give him much of anything. But if he says he is still hurt, He atleast gets that $7.5 Million.

Zero chance ... Jimmy needs to be healthy to move on to his next team. It doesn't matter how he leaves the Niners, trade or being cut ... he needs a job and by faking an injury he will never be hired. He said in his farewell that he has a long career ahead of him.

Jimmy learned a lot from Tom Brady, one thing was to take a pay cut to improve the team. Another is to get rid of the qb that is breathing down your throat ... well, Tom did that but Jimmy has not done it. Jimmy wants to find a team, any team ... even a s**t team that wants to win, he'll take that gig. Tom Brady taught him that as well, when he went to Tampa Bay and turned that team around.

Everyone on this thread wants the same thing ... or have I not heard from the folks that want him on the niners? A few weeks back, before I read all these posts, I thought it would be best to stay, but now I want him to leave. Get the hell out of California Jimmy ... everyone who is truly cool has left already.

I just heard from Frank Gore ... there's one guy that wants Jimmy on the Niners. Too bad he's not one of the brilliant posters on this thread.

Originally posted by joanieb:
I just heard from Frank Gore ... there's one guy that wants Jimmy on the Niners. Too bad he's not one of the brilliant posters on this thread.

And yet he like all the others who support Jimmy never talk about his ability or lack there of. They go with the same old tired worn out thought proccess. "He wins" But cant win a SB. I guess these Jimmy supporters are just ok with getting to the playoffs and winning a game or two and then falling short of the SB which is the main goal. And then these same people will blame Kyle when the Niners don't win the SB because his QB is very average and going up against an elite guy on the other side. They will blame Kyle's play-calling, Even though it's Jimmy that didn't execute it or that the opposing team is stacking the box because they know Jimmy can't beat them with his arm. Or his legs.

And I find it funny that people are saying Jimmy gives us the best chance but yet he's a guy nobody else in the league wants. Average to below average QB's were being sought after before him. Steelers would rather fricken have Trubinsky.

Another niner legend says jimmy gives us the best chance to win. Like I've been saying all along, trey is not ready yet. It is a good thing jimmy is back with us. Jimmy can start another year and trey can learn more and fix his mechanics before we put him on the field next year then he can hit the ground running

Originally posted by q0c0p:
Another niner legend says jimmy gives us the best chance to win. Like I've been saying all along, trey is not ready yet. It is a good thing jimmy is back with us. Jimmy can start another year and trey can learn more and fix his mechanics before we put him on the field next year then he can hit the ground running

How would Frank know? How does Montana know? When these guys break down film of Trey, and back up their opinion with facts as to why Trey is not ready, they can be taken seriously. Right now, their opinions hold no weight...literally.

And like others have said, apparently winning with Jimmy means not winning the Super Bowl. I guess we all have different definitions of winning.