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May 9, 2022 at 9:23 AM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The bad thing about Jimmy is is choked in the 4th quarter of a SB.

because he gave up airballs to Tyreek Hill?

It is the defenses fault for carrying him all season...

Good one.
May 9, 2022 at 9:30 AM
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Finally finished my dorky QB rating metric. Jimmy surprised me a bit, finishing at 12th (I'm not fully amazed at this, but it's definitely the high end of the range where I tend to rank him).

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/196068-new-homegrown-rating-metric-jimmy-controversially-ranks-12th/

And Trey had a better rating, for the record (although with small sample sizes there will be large variations).

Each input in this rating is statistically tied directly to correlation with winning. The only divergence from this with rushing yards, which surprisingly has a very weak negative correlation with winning (But it made no football sense to not include it, and because it is statistically insignificant, I flipped the sign and did a separate correlation analysis for guys who rush for a lot if yards per game, and gave them a bonus based on the positive correlation with winning their rushing yards had.)

Other than that, I made sacks and dominant wins 25% on the QB.

Appreciate all the work you put into it.

Many here won't even read based on your conclusion, but they definitely should, even it goes against their preconceived notion.

Anyways, great job!

Yup good stuff. That's right where I put Jimmy myself. Around the Cousins, Ryan, Tannehill area. Good QB's but every one of them have flaws.

If he's in that category, then he is more than just a good QB.

He is in the category of the QB that will get you wins, but when critical plays are needed to be made to will a win, he may do so on occasion, but won't more often than not.

This is why Lynch is standing strong on his value. QBs in this tier are not easy to come by, especially if you factor in his leadership.
[ Edited by Joecool on May 9, 2022 at 9:31 AM ]
May 9, 2022 at 9:39 AM
Man this thread has turned into....
May 9, 2022 at 9:44 AM
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Let's offer Jimmy his release in exchange for 25 mil off his final year

I think that's what's going to happen.

I don't think he's going anywhere unless traded.
May 9, 2022 at 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Sickaa:
I don't think he's going anywhere unless traded.

He'll be released shortly after he passes a physical which is expected near the beginning of training camp as I understand it. I don't see how they go into camp with Jimmy on the roster if he's cleared to play. I can't see it being ok in the locker room that Jimmy is the backup, and the team all but publicly indicts Trey by letting Jimmy start. It would be a huge mistake imo.
May 9, 2022 at 2:51 PM
Originally posted by wisecraft:
Let's call Pittsburgh and offer them Tyrion Davis-Price and Jimmy G. For Najee Harris. That would help the Steelers QB situation with a upgrade and mentor for the future.

See if they will throw in Watt (TJ not Derek) and two of their Lombardi trophies. We don't want to get played here.
May 9, 2022 at 3:21 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by wisecraft:
Let's call Pittsburgh and offer them Tyrion Davis-Price and Jimmy G. For Najee Harris. That would help the Steelers QB situation with a upgrade and mentor for the future.

See if they will throw in Watt (TJ not Derek) and two of their Lombardi trophies. We don't want to get played here.

LMFAO You have me rolling here.
May 9, 2022 at 3:30 PM
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Finally finished my dorky QB rating metric. Jimmy surprised me a bit, finishing at 12th (I'm not fully amazed at this, but it's definitely the high end of the range where I tend to rank him).

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/196068-new-homegrown-rating-metric-jimmy-controversially-ranks-12th/

And Trey had a better rating, for the record (although with small sample sizes there will be large variations).

Each input in this rating is statistically tied directly to correlation with winning. The only divergence from this with rushing yards, which surprisingly has a very weak negative correlation with winning (But it made no football sense to not include it, and because it is statistically insignificant, I flipped the sign and did a separate correlation analysis for guys who rush for a lot if yards per game, and gave them a bonus based on the positive correlation with winning their rushing yards had.)

Other than that, I made sacks and dominant wins 25% on the QB.

Even with the small sample size, Trey already looks better ceiling and talent wise, compare to every 9er QB since Steve Young (including Jimmy, Alex Smith, Kraperchoke fools gold inaccurate bad attitude immature trash). It's no wonder they spend a bunch of 1st round picks to trade up for him, definitely worth it.

Really exciting!
May 9, 2022 at 3:32 PM
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The bad thing about Jimmy is is choked in the 4th quarter of a SB.

because he gave up airballs to Tyreek Hill?


Haha. The arm punt to Tyreek Hill. The "other" Jimmie.
[ Edited by NCommand on May 9, 2022 at 3:35 PM ]
May 9, 2022 at 3:33 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. The punt to Tyreek Hill. The "other" Jimmie.

That wasn't on Jimmie. Was on Moseley.
May 9, 2022 at 3:40 PM
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. The punt to Tyreek Hill. The "other" Jimmie.

That wasn't on Jimmie. Was on Moseley.

Depends on who you talk too. Eric Crocker said as the single high it's sacrilege to get beat on a double move late like that...then after getting beat/turned around, he just jogs with him and never plays the ball (just the man after the catch). But yes, Moseley was supposed to carry him the whole way too (which is tough to ask of him).
May 9, 2022 at 3:46 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. The punt to Tyreek Hill. The "other" Jimmie.

That wasn't on Jimmie. Was on Moseley.

Depends on who you talk too. Eric Crocker said as the single high it's sacrilege to get beat on a double move late like that...then after getting beat/turned around, he just jogs with him and never plays the ball (just the man after the catch). But yes, Moseley was supposed to carry him the whole way too (which is tough to ask of him).

Jimmie Ward gets way too much credit for being below average in coverage.
May 9, 2022 at 3:49 PM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. The punt to Tyreek Hill. The "other" Jimmie.

That wasn't on Jimmie. Was on Moseley.

Depends on who you talk too. Eric Crocker said as the single high it's sacrilege to get beat on a double move late like that...then after getting beat/turned around, he just jogs with him and never plays the ball (just the man after the catch). But yes, Moseley was supposed to carry him the whole way too (which is tough to ask of him).

Jimmie Ward gets way too much credit for being below average in coverage.

He also took a terrible angle on the final TD too (21 points in 5 minutes). Ward...Tartt.

This is why so many were hoping for a S with the first pick.
May 9, 2022 at 3:51 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. The punt to Tyreek Hill. The "other" Jimmie.

That wasn't on Jimmie. Was on Moseley.

Depends on who you talk too. Eric Crocker said as the single high it's sacrilege to get beat on a double move late like that...then after getting beat/turned around, he just jogs with him and never plays the ball (just the man after the catch). But yes, Moseley was supposed to carry him the whole way too (which is tough to ask of him).

Eh. It was more on the refs for not throwing a flag on Bosa being bear-hugged by the chiefs O-Line
May 9, 2022 at 3:53 PM
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
The bad thing about Jimmy is is choked in the 4th quarter of a SB.

because he gave up airballs to Tyreek Hill?


Jimmy was only 90% responsible for the Super Bowl loss. There's plenty of blame to go around for that last 10%.
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