Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Its quite simple. I don't think they worry about contracts.

They go with darnold 4 and 13, coach gets fired.
They go with Mayfield 7 and 10 coach gets fired.

The coach HAS to win now. His best bet is Jimmy. He gives him the best odds. He is the only one who can save his ass.

This.

A healthy Jimmy, which is a big if, gives them a chance to compete. CMC and DJ Moore are excellent targets for the style of play Jimmy runs.
Jimmy is a capable bridge QB. I don't know if they actually want to groom Matt Corrall or will they see if next year there's a better crop of QBs.
I'd predict Jimmy to Carolina and Baker to Seattle.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Its quite simple. I don't think they worry about contracts.

They go with darnold 4 and 13, coach gets fired.
They go with Mayfield 7 and 10 coach gets fired.

The coach HAS to win now. His best bet is Jimmy. He gives him the best odds. He is the only one who can save his ass.

This.

A healthy Jimmy, which is a big if, gives them a chance to compete. CMC and DJ Moore are excellent targets for the style of play Jimmy runs.
Jimmy is a capable bridge QB. I don't know if they actually want to groom Matt Corrall or will they see if next year there's a better crop of QBs.
I'd predict Jimmy to Carolina and Baker to Seattle.

Agreed, with those two + Jimmy, and if their TE Tremble improves his 2nd year, they'd have a good, balanced offense that could do some damage vs. a not-great NFC South.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
Did someone really say Grant Cohn is some sort of reliable? lmao.
It's pretty simple:
David Lombardi for the actual analysis
Matt Maioco for the news
Grant Cohn for the comedy

Nothing has meaning apart from comparison to something else. I said he was more reliable than LOMBARDO. Because, well, you know, Cohn was THERE at camp, and actually took note of the completion percentages, TDs, and INTs of the 49ers QBs.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Its quite simple. I don't think they worry about contracts.

They go with darnold 4 and 13, coach gets fired.
They go with Mayfield 7 and 10 coach gets fired.

The coach HAS to win now. His best bet is Jimmy. He gives him the best odds. He is the only one who can save his ass.

This.

Problem is, how much say does he have in personnel?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Its quite simple. I don't think they worry about contracts.

They go with darnold 4 and 13, coach gets fired.
They go with Mayfield 7 and 10 coach gets fired.

The coach HAS to win now. His best bet is Jimmy. He gives him the best odds. He is the only one who can save his ass.

This.

Problem is, how much say does he have in personnel?

He has some good say in, at least had. He's definitely on the hot seat now so who knows...

Just saw that terrible hype video of the dolphins with Tua underthrowing Hill haha. I think McDaniel sees really quick that Tua will be a disaster and he makes a trade for JimmyG. Jimmy aint got a strong arm either but I think he is good enough to run the offense with great weapons around him. Tua is going to stall way too many drives

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Just saw that terrible hype video of the dolphins with Tua underthrowing Hill haha. I think McDaniel sees really quick that Tua will be a disaster and he makes a trade for JimmyG. Jimmy aint got a strong arm either but I think he is good enough to run the offense with great weapons around him. Tua is going to stall way too many drives

Jimmy's got a stronger arm than some might think. It's not on par with a Mahomes or Allen but it's better than average.

Now, his accuracy on deep passes...that's something different and could definitely be improved.

Grant Cohn is wildly biased against Jimmy G. Hugely biased in favor of Trey Lance. His reports are ridiculous.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Just saw that terrible hype video of the dolphins with Tua underthrowing Hill haha. I think McDaniel sees really quick that Tua will be a disaster and he makes a trade for JimmyG. Jimmy aint got a strong arm either but I think he is good enough to run the offense with great weapons around him. Tua is going to stall way too many drives

Jimmy's got a stronger arm than some might think. It's not on par with a Mahomes or Allen but it's better than average.

Now, his accuracy on deep passes...that's something different and could definitely be improved.

It seems average to me. Anytime I have seen him throw deep he needs plenty of room and it takes him forever to set up and throw. He also has to put everything he has into it. Even then, receivers usually have to slow down or completely stop and wait for the ball to get there.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Just saw that terrible hype video of the dolphins with Tua underthrowing Hill haha. I think McDaniel sees really quick that Tua will be a disaster and he makes a trade for JimmyG. Jimmy aint got a strong arm either but I think he is good enough to run the offense with great weapons around him. Tua is going to stall way too many drives

Jimmy's got a stronger arm than some might think. It's not on par with a Mahomes or Allen but it's better than average.

Now, his accuracy on deep passes...that's something different and could definitely be improved.

Jimmy can rip it within that 10-20 yards area, but he does lack arm strength beyond that, it's not just an accuracy thing. And when I say arm strength I'm talking about throwing "missiles" at 25+ yards out. Jimmy does have poor accuracy on his deep ball, but deep ball isn't an indication of arm strength. EVERY QB in the can throw it up 50-55 yards.

Can they do it from different angles, back foot, on the run, etc. That's arm strength. Can they throw a frozen rope on out route that's 20+ yards deep, that's arm strength.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
That's what he does when he cracks! It's almost like an immediate epidemic too. His "calming" in the huddle gets the team to a certain level but when there's an immediate comeback, there's a panic that just seems to resonate, starting with him and spreads like wildfire. Hard to watch.

Yeah it's very confusing...We've seen Jimmy make some game winning drives, but overall when it mattered most (playoffs) he's been pretty poor overall. Not all on him though.

I had superbowl flash backs in the last drive against the rams this past season.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Just saw that terrible hype video of the dolphins with Tua underthrowing Hill haha. I think McDaniel sees really quick that Tua will be a disaster and he makes a trade for JimmyG. Jimmy aint got a strong arm either but I think he is good enough to run the offense with great weapons around him. Tua is going to stall way too many drives

Jimmy's got a stronger arm than some might think. It's not on par with a Mahomes or Allen but it's better than average.

Now, his accuracy on deep passes...that's something different and could definitely be improved.

It seems average to me. Anytime I have seen him throw deep he needs plenty of room and it takes him forever to set up and throw. He also has to put everything he has into it. Even then, receivers usually have to slow down or completely stop and wait for the ball to get there.

I disagree. I've seen every one of his throws here - deep passes, medium, short, etc. - at least two times in re-watching games (and re-watching again many games). I've also seen his games as a starter at NE. I've seen sometimes what you mention (takes time to throw it, needs some room)...to me from what I've seen, it's more of a timing, accuracy, and sometimes mechanics thing with him. Regarding the accuracy part, I've also seen him overshoot guys deep. Just one of the areas he needs to improve, and sometimes it definitely involves having better rapport/timing with the receivers - especially new guys to the team and inexperienced guys..

It's my opinion he has a better than average arm - it's not just average - and we can agree to disagree.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:
Just saw that terrible hype video of the dolphins with Tua underthrowing Hill haha. I think McDaniel sees really quick that Tua will be a disaster and he makes a trade for JimmyG. Jimmy aint got a strong arm either but I think he is good enough to run the offense with great weapons around him. Tua is going to stall way too many drives

Jimmy's got a stronger arm than some might think. It's not on par with a Mahomes or Allen but it's better than average.

Now, his accuracy on deep passes...that's something different and could definitely be improved.

It seems average to me. Anytime I have seen him throw deep he needs plenty of room and it takes him forever to set up and throw. He also has to put everything he has into it. Even then, receivers usually have to slow down or completely stop and wait for the ball to get there.

I disagree. I've seen every one of his throws here - deep passes, medium, short, etc. - at least two times in re-watching games (and re-watching again many games). I've also seen his games as a starter at NE. I've seen sometimes what you mention (takes time to throw it, needs some room)...to me from what I've seen, it's more of a timing, accuracy, and sometimes mechanics thing with him. Regarding the accuracy part, I've also seen him overshoot guys deep. Just one of the areas he needs to improve, and sometimes it definitely involves having better rapport/timing with the receivers - especially new guys to the team and inexperienced guys..

It's my opinion he has a better than average arm - it's not just average - and we can agree to disagree.

I guess we're going to have to because I can think of many deep balls where he was given forever on a playaction to set his feet and give everything he had just for the receiver to have to wait for it. I can think of a handful of times when this occurred. I can only think of one over throw and that was to Sanders in the SB.

James " Jimmy" WTFwasthateroppolo. The book on Jimmy has been written. After his first 5 starts and didn't get any better after his knee. The guy shrinks in the moment.However….. HE IS DEFINITELY GOOD ENOUGH, his coach isn't, so far. A huge ego needs a scapegoat, sorry to say. That's why the O coaches all left. Trey might end up being really good, who knows. Kyle is not the right coach for Trey. An Andy Reed type is prob going to be needed here. We'll see. Go Niners!!

Originally posted by socal1632:
James " Jimmy" WTFwasthateroppolo. The book on Jimmy has been written. After his first 5 starts and didn't get any better after his knee. The guy shrinks in the moment.However….. HE IS DEFINITELY GOOD ENOUGH, his coach isn't, so far. A huge ego needs a scapegoat, sorry to say. That's why the O coaches all left. Trey might end up being really good, who knows. Kyle is not the right coach for Trey. An Andy Reed type is prob going to be needed here. We'll see. Go Niners!!

This s**t is all Fn hilarious.