Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
They should trade Lance and give Jimmy G the extension he deserves.

And the craziest part here, is that you actually would want this.

nah the craziest part here, is that you actually want me to want this

just going off your previous posts. don't laugh at me for the some of the dumb things you've posted when it comes to Jimmy lol

lol all good bro, I thought you would've known which ones were actual legit and not sarcasm, but thats seems like a big reach for you. I'm sorry good day

ya it's hard to differentiate between some of the crazy stuff you say, especially when you meant some of it. my bad

all good brother, you always seem to respond to the ones that are borderline crazy thinking they're legit so I can see why you have problems with differentiating. At least we have that resolved now.

they're all crazy

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
They should trade Lance and give Jimmy G the extension he deserves.

And the craziest part here, is that you actually would want this.

nah the craziest part here, is that you actually want me to want this

just going off your previous posts. don't laugh at me for the some of the dumb things you've posted when it comes to Jimmy lol

lol all good bro, I thought you would've known which ones were actual legit and not sarcasm, but thats seems like a big reach for you. I'm sorry good day

ya it's hard to differentiate between some of the crazy stuff you say, especially when you meant some of it. my bad

all good brother, you always seem to respond to the ones that are borderline crazy thinking they're legit so I can see why you have problems with differentiating. At least we have that resolved now.

they're all crazy

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
What about the "but" part says anything different? The "but" part has nothing to do with Jimmy being the starter and everything to do with the fact they're telling the NFL they're not just gonna cut Jimmy, especially before he's even cleared. They don't have too.

What key's are you talking about? It's May rookie mini camp. Lance will be getting all the 1st team reps in OTAs. If Jimmy is practicing and taking all the 1st string snaps in TC, like last yr then you have something to go off of. As of right now Lance is being treated as the starter by the players and Kyle...simply based off the fact that they WANT to trade Jimmy. They just haven't been able too, it's not the hard to understand.

"Because we obviously believe Trey can be a starter and we're ready to do that. But..."

Doesn't say Trey is the starter, They say they believe he can be and they are ready... But if they cant trade Jimmy then things will be different.

even you don't believe what you are claiming (from your own posts i read awhile back).. so why the back and forth

Because as I said I think Trey is the presumed starter but they are leaving the door open for Jimmy. It's been clear as day and I have provided actual 100% word for word quotes to back it up. Unlike the opposite side who flat out say the entire FO is lying. I don't believe this "they are lying to trade Jimmy" conspiracy as I've pointed out if you and I can figure it out, so can a professional GM. The coaches literally say Trey is the future but not once have they committed to Trey. Not once have they came out and said it's his job. Again it's his to lose, but it's not his until he earns it or Jimmy is traded.

How many times have we explained "coach speak" to you and how many times have you then ignored it.

If they don't proclaim Trey the starter after Jimmy is gone THEN, you may have a point. What good does it do to claim Trey is the starter now when we're trying to get trade compensation for Jimmy?

"Because we obviously believe Trey can be a starter"

Coach speak or nah?

Of course it is. If he is complete garbage you expect him to say so? "Sorry guys we used 3 firsts on a turd"

LOL they only tell the truth when it suits your agenda.

Go back to smileys.

Bruh, they almost always tell at least part of the truth. Their current stance is, "We believe Lance is ready, but we're not cutting Jimmy just to cut him, he's too good. If we can't get value for him, we'll just go with both."

That doesn't seem like deception to me. They WANT to trade Jimmy because they believe Trey is READY to be the starter, but if they CAN'T trade Jimmy, they have no intention of just cutting him.

Why does that mean that they don't think Trey is ready, despite saying (repeatedly) that they believe Trey is ready?

Why not come out and hand the keys to the franchise to him like every other QB drafted around him? Out of Lawrence, Mac, Wilson, and Fields he is the only one not named the starter.

Again I don't buy the "they are trying to outsmart GM's even though average fans understand their play".

Because the jets,Jax,NE & the bears don't have a 25 mil QB on the roster that they're trying to get some value for.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
What about the "but" part says anything different? The "but" part has nothing to do with Jimmy being the starter and everything to do with the fact they're telling the NFL they're not just gonna cut Jimmy, especially before he's even cleared. They don't have too.

What key's are you talking about? It's May rookie mini camp. Lance will be getting all the 1st team reps in OTAs. If Jimmy is practicing and taking all the 1st string snaps in TC, like last yr then you have something to go off of. As of right now Lance is being treated as the starter by the players and Kyle...simply based off the fact that they WANT to trade Jimmy. They just haven't been able too, it's not the hard to understand.

"Because we obviously believe Trey can be a starter and we're ready to do that. But..."

Doesn't say Trey is the starter, They say they believe he can be and they are ready... But if they cant trade Jimmy then things will be different.

even you don't believe what you are claiming (from your own posts i read awhile back).. so why the back and forth

Because as I said I think Trey is the presumed starter but they are leaving the door open for Jimmy. It's been clear as day and I have provided actual 100% word for word quotes to back it up. Unlike the opposite side who flat out say the entire FO is lying. I don't believe this "they are lying to trade Jimmy" conspiracy as I've pointed out if you and I can figure it out, so can a professional GM. The coaches literally say Trey is the future but not once have they committed to Trey. Not once have they came out and said it's his job. Again it's his to lose, but it's not his until he earns it or Jimmy is traded.

How many times have we explained "coach speak" to you and how many times have you then ignored it.

If they don't proclaim Trey the starter after Jimmy is gone THEN, you may have a point. What good does it do to claim Trey is the starter now when we're trying to get trade compensation for Jimmy?

"Because we obviously believe Trey can be a starter"

Coach speak or nah?

Of course it is. If he is complete garbage you expect him to say so? "Sorry guys we used 3 firsts on a turd"

LOL they only tell the truth when it suits your agenda.

Go back to smileys.

Bruh, they almost always tell at least part of the truth. Their current stance is, "We believe Lance is ready, but we're not cutting Jimmy just to cut him, he's too good. If we can't get value for him, we'll just go with both."

That doesn't seem like deception to me. They WANT to trade Jimmy because they believe Trey is READY to be the starter, but if they CAN'T trade Jimmy, they have no intention of just cutting him.

Why does that mean that they don't think Trey is ready, despite saying (repeatedly) that they believe Trey is ready?

Why not come out and hand the keys to the franchise to him like every other QB drafted around him? Out of Lawrence, Mac, Wilson, and Fields he is the only one not named the starter.

Again I don't buy the "they are trying to outsmart GM's even though average fans understand their play".

Well if you don't buy it, it's because you don't want to buy it.

But even if they AREN'T doing what every team does (which is pretend they want to keep a player they want to trade), it's still folly to compare Lance's situation to the other first round rookies because… none of them have a QB of Jimmy's quality on the roster. In other words, even if you were right (you're not, of course), and the 49ers really WANT to keep Jimmy and make the two compete, it's not an indictment on Lance. It's because Jimmy is a legitimate, quality NFL starter.

And lastly, there's a third reason the 49ers might be playing this game: pique. Rumors a couple months ago were that they were PISSED that Jimmy waited to get the surgery, and saw it as either an attempt at revenge or a selfish move that hurts the team. Consider that Jimmy has taken all the power away from the 49ers in this matter: they can't cut him or they owe him over 7 million; they can't trade him because no one wants to give up draft capital for an injured QB.

They are stuck with him for the time being, and a dangerous precedent has now been set where players can wrestle away power.

So, do not be surprised if the 49ers keep Jimmy as long as possible, knowing he won't be able to compete in camp (conveniently giving Lance time to solidify his push to start), and relegate Jimmy to a back up role or a week three pre-season cut.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well if you don't buy it, it's because you don't want to buy it.

But even if they AREN'T doing what every team does (which is pretend they want to keep a player they want to trade), it's still folly to compare Lance's situation to the other first round rookies because… none of them have a QB of Jimmy's quality on the roster. In other words, even if you were right (you're not, of course), and the 49ers really WANT to keep Jimmy and make the two compete, it's not an indictment on Lance. It's because Jimmy is a legitimate, quality NFL starter.

And lastly, there's a third reason the 49ers might be playing this game: pique. Rumors a couple months ago were that they were PISSED that Jimmy waited to get the surgery, and saw it as either an attempt at revenge or a selfish move that hurts the team. Consider that Jimmy has taken all the power away from the 49ers in this matter: they can't cut him or they owe him over 7 million; they can't trade him because no one wants to give up draft capital for an injured QB.

They are stuck with him for the time being, and a dangerous precedent has now been set where players can wrestle away power.

So, do not be surprised if the 49ers keep Jimmy as long as possible, knowing he won't be able to compete in camp (conveniently giving Lance time to solidify his push to start), and relegate Jimmy to a back up role or a week three pre-season cut.

I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

Originally posted by joanieb:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?

If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

You're not buying it because you don't want to, period. Yes it's not rocket science.

They aren't gonna flat out cut Jimmy right now. They have no reason to…they want fair market value for him and his surgery stopped all of it. Once he's cleared they can cut him and save more than if that did that right now. They can wait to see if a team needs his services at some pt in TC. They have options up until WK1.

kyle has said all this….quit being stupid about it acting like people are making up s**t. If they didn't think Lance was gonna be the starter they would have NEVER thought of trading Jimmy to begin with. How you can't grasp that or don't want to is ridiculous. Like others stated you just don't want to regardless of what's right in front of your face.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by joanieb:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?

If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

Everyone has an opinion, this one is just wrong though.

lol so we can't play Lance because our team is good? How stupid is that? Guess KC, GB, and SF should have never started Mahomes, Rogers, young.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

quit being stupid about it acting like people are making up s**t. If

"Do you see a scenario where Jimmy is in the the team next season"

Lynch: "absolutely"

You're literally... lit...er...a..lly... Calling Lynch a liar. In doing so... It's you... Who is making s**t up. You're literally..lit...er...a..lly creating a conspiracy despite DIRECT QUOTES based off emotion.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

quit being stupid about it acting like people are making up s**t. If

"Do you see a scenario where Jimmy is in the the team next season"

Lynch: "absolutely"

You're literally... lit...er...a..lly... Calling Lynch a liar. In doing so... It's you... Who is making s**t up. You're literally..lit...er...a..lly creating a conspiracy despite DIRECT QUOTES based off emotion.

It is absolutely a scenario. Doesn't mean it is absolutely going to happen.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

quit being stupid about it acting like people are making up s**t. If

"Do you see a scenario where Jimmy is in the the team next season"

Lynch: "absolutely"

You're literally... lit...er...a..lly... Calling Lynch a liar. In doing so... It's you... Who is making s**t up. You're literally..lit...er...a..lly creating a conspiracy despite DIRECT QUOTES based off emotion.

It is absolutely a scenario. Doesn't mean it is absolutely going to happen.

Yup. And that's why Trey has yet to named starter.

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Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
"Do you see a scenario where Jimmy is in the the team next season"

Lynch: "absolutely"

You're literally... lit...er...a..lly... Calling Lynch a liar. In doing so... It's you... Who is making s**t up. You're literally..lit...er...a..lly creating a conspiracy despite DIRECT QUOTES based off emotion.

Nothing is absolute. Kyle also said he has no idea if we're gonna be alive next Sunday…he said basically the only reason he's still on the team is because he got surgery. you calling Kyle a lier???

You've made s**t up this whole damn time. You disregard anything that proves you're wrong then prop up whatever small detail says otherwise and run with this like it means something….yeah if you're trying to move a player let's say we don't want you on team that will really get the value going for him.

like I said quit being dumb about it. Only person creating a conspiracy is you and everyone in here feels the same. Take the tinfoil hat off.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Yup. And that's why Trey has yet to named starter.

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That's why Jimmy has yet to be named the starter. Derp.

The team f**king told him they're trying to move him per Jimmy! They've been trying to move him BECAUSE they think Lance is the starter. How dumb do you have to be to think otherwise?

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

quit being stupid about it acting like people are making up s**t. If

"Do you see a scenario where Jimmy is in the the team next season"

Lynch: "absolutely"

You're literally... lit...er...a..lly... Calling Lynch a liar. In doing so... It's you... Who is making s**t up. You're literally..lit...er...a..lly creating a conspiracy despite DIRECT QUOTES based off emotion.

It is absolutely a scenario. Doesn't mean it is absolutely going to happen.

Coaches make statements to mislead other teams all the time. The only way I see JG starting for the Niners this year is if Trey got seriously injured in camp.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well if you don't buy it, it's because you don't want to buy it.

But even if they AREN'T doing what every team does (which is pretend they want to keep a player they want to trade), it's still folly to compare Lance's situation to the other first round rookies because… none of them have a QB of Jimmy's quality on the roster. In other words, even if you were right (you're not, of course), and the 49ers really WANT to keep Jimmy and make the two compete, it's not an indictment on Lance. It's because Jimmy is a legitimate, quality NFL starter.

And lastly, there's a third reason the 49ers might be playing this game: pique. Rumors a couple months ago were that they were PISSED that Jimmy waited to get the surgery, and saw it as either an attempt at revenge or a selfish move that hurts the team. Consider that Jimmy has taken all the power away from the 49ers in this matter: they can't cut him or they owe him over 7 million; they can't trade him because no one wants to give up draft capital for an injured QB.

They are stuck with him for the time being, and a dangerous precedent has now been set where players can wrestle away power.

So, do not be surprised if the 49ers keep Jimmy as long as possible, knowing he won't be able to compete in camp (conveniently giving Lance time to solidify his push to start), and relegate Jimmy to a back up role or a week three pre-season cut.

I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

Just like teams figured out Seattle was full of it when they said they had no intention of trading Wilson. And yet, Seattle stuck by that narrative.

What you're missing here is that in the ultra-competitive NFL, even a sliver of doubt has value to teams.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

The the former depends on saying the latter, ever if only marginally so, and even a marginal, nearly imperceptible advantage is valued in the ultra-competitive NFL.