Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Jimmy flat foot has to go.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Jimmy flat foot has to go.

Soon enough. 2-4 months

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Lance struggles this year, that would be a bad sign Imo. I'm expecting to see Lance take the league by storm though.

He doesn't have to take the league by storm. To expect that is unreasonable. All he really has to do in order for the team to have good success is to play just a little better than did Garoppolo when he was healthy. Do that, and stay healthy, and this team will do well.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Lance struggles this year, that would be a bad sign Imo. I'm expecting to see Lance take the league by storm though.

He doesn't have to take the league by storm. To expect that is unreasonable. All he really has to do in order for the team to have good success is to play just a little better than did Garoppolo when he was healthy. Do that, and stay healthy, and this team will do well.

I would disagree with that. I'd expect more than a slight Improvement over Jimmy considering how much draft capital was Invested to acquire Lance to begin with. I understand he still lacks experience/playing time, but that was Kyle's decision to stick with Jimmy all of last season.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Lance struggles this year, that would be a bad sign Imo. I'm expecting to see Lance take the league by storm though.

He doesn't have to take the league by storm. To expect that is unreasonable. All he really has to do in order for the team to have good success is to play just a little better than did Garoppolo when he was healthy. Do that, and stay healthy, and this team will do well.

I would disagree with that. I'd expect more than a slight Improvement over Jimmy considering how much draft capital was Invested to acquire Lance to begin with. I understand he still lacks experience/playing time, but that was Kyle's decision to stick with Jimmy all of last season.

Slight improvement over Jimmy is not taking the league by storm. Slightly better than Jimmy is like Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, or Dak Prescott.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Lance struggles this year, that would be a bad sign Imo. I'm expecting to see Lance take the league by storm though.

He doesn't have to take the league by storm. To expect that is unreasonable. All he really has to do in order for the team to have good success is to play just a little better than did Garoppolo when he was healthy. Do that, and stay healthy, and this team will do well.

I would disagree with that. I'd expect more than a slight Improvement over Jimmy considering how much draft capital was Invested to acquire Lance to begin with. I understand he still lacks experience/playing time, but that was Kyle's decision to stick with Jimmy all of last season.

Slight improvement over Jimmy is not taking the league by storm. Slightly better than Jimmy is like Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, or Dak Prescott.

That's what I'm saying... And that's why I'm expecting much more from Lance next season, regardless of young and Inexperienced he Is.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Yes. Thanks for not denying that you only care about Jimmy being gone nothing more. Respect.

My confidence is his only two healthy seasons he's gotten us to the NFCC or SB. My confidence is his third leading winning %. My confidence is his undeniable record to help the team win.

Now what leads you to believe he can't do it again? Fairy tales...

Once they moved up for a QB in the draft, Jimmy was playing on borrowed time. One of the greatest assets in having a starting QB on a rookie contract is the money you can invest around him….they've already wasted a yr of that contract and here you are trying to burn another yr AND pay an avg QB $27M in FGTD cash lol.

You think Jimmy is gonna win us a super bowl? Honestly? He's been dreadful in the playoffs and has had his chances….if SF can find a trade partner he's gone and that's a fact. The league played musical chairs with starting QBs this off season and we couldn't even get a sniff for him….The only reason he's still on the team is because they can't move him right now. Period.

He is the heir apparent to Jimmy Garoppolo, who remains atop the team's depth chart. And York said he is fine if Garoppolo remains as coach Kyle Shanahan's starter for a year — or even two.

"We've talked about this internally," York said on 49ers Talk. "If we're in a situation where Jimmy goes out and takes us to a Super Bowl again and has an MVP-caliber season, and does it again, there are worse dilemmas to be in. And Jimmy certainly has the ability to do that."

"If he doesn't play until he's 23, but he's got a 15-plus year career …" York said of Lance. "There were rumors about a guy, and obviously Kyle talked about trading for Aaron. How long did Aaron sit? Two or three years before he played? And, again, I want to make sure that we do everything we can to make sure that position is the best it can possibly be in the NFL."

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The FO has been more than ready to let him sit for 2 seasons. Sure he didn't have the best season last year but he was one or two plays away from the SB. Yes I think we can win a SB with Jimmy but I understand he has some deficiencies that a better QB could mask. Is a 22 year old Trey that? Maybe but not many 22 years old go out and catch the NFL on fire.

Gonna be hilarious when Lance is starting and your nowhere to be found.

fwiw you can still wear your Jimmy jersey even if he's not starting it's okay man.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Yes. Thanks for not denying that you only care about Jimmy being gone nothing more. Respect.

My confidence is his only two healthy seasons he's gotten us to the NFCC or SB. My confidence is his third leading winning %. My confidence is his undeniable record to help the team win.

Now what leads you to believe he can't do it again? Fairy tales...

Once they moved up for a QB in the draft, Jimmy was playing on borrowed time. One of the greatest assets in having a starting QB on a rookie contract is the money you can invest around him….they've already wasted a yr of that contract and here you are trying to burn another yr AND pay an avg QB $27M in FGTD cash lol.

You think Jimmy is gonna win us a super bowl? Honestly? He's been dreadful in the playoffs and has had his chances….if SF can find a trade partner he's gone and that's a fact. The league played musical chairs with starting QBs this off season and we couldn't even get a sniff for him….The only reason he's still on the team is because they can't move him right now. Period.

He is the heir apparent to Jimmy Garoppolo, who remains atop the team's depth chart. And York said he is fine if Garoppolo remains as coach Kyle Shanahan's starter for a year — or even two.

"We've talked about this internally," York said on 49ers Talk. "If we're in a situation where Jimmy goes out and takes us to a Super Bowl again and has an MVP-caliber season, and does it again, there are worse dilemmas to be in. And Jimmy certainly has the ability to do that."

"If he doesn't play until he's 23, but he's got a 15-plus year career …" York said of Lance. "There were rumors about a guy, and obviously Kyle talked about trading for Aaron. How long did Aaron sit? Two or three years before he played? And, again, I want to make sure that we do everything we can to make sure that position is the best it can possibly be in the NFL."

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The FO has been more than ready to let him sit for 2 seasons. Sure he didn't have the best season last year but he was one or two plays away from the SB. Yes I think we can win a SB with Jimmy but I understand he has some deficiencies that a better QB could mask. Is a 22 year old Trey that? Maybe but not many 22 years old go out and catch the NFL on fire.

Gonna be hilarious when Lance is starting and your nowhere to be found.

fwiw you can still wear your Jimmy jersey even if he's not starting it's okay man.

I'll be here rooting for Lance 100%. I'll give Lance the same respect I give Jimmy and fight the good fight against those who will needlessly try to bring him down. I've repeatedly said I want Lance to start as I know what Jimmy is. A good, sometimes great, other times down right infuriating QB. Tret has a chance to be a Super Star. Now will he?

I'm not going to pretend to know until he actually does something.

No Jimmy jersey btw. Just Brent Jones, Alex, and Willis.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

Jimmy is "Playing the game" ?? I thought they were 100% honest truthful, and forthcoming? At least,...this is what u have pitched for the couple months u've been here.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
"But if we can't upgrade our team in another way, we're not going to just get rid of a good quarterback because we have other quarterbacks on the roster."

/thread

We can upgrade our team in other ways though,....literally every single day.

Looks like that gives us the freedom to get rid of a good quarterback the very moment it saves us extra money.

And then this one...lol...

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Yes. Thanks for not denying that you only care about Jimmy being gone nothing more. Respect.

My confidence is his only two healthy seasons he's gotten us to the NFCC or SB. My confidence is his third leading winning %. My confidence is his undeniable record to help the team win.

Now what leads you to believe he can't do it again? Fairy tales...

If Jimmy "got us to" the NFCCG and the SB, then so did the equipment manager.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Lance struggles this year, that would be a bad sign Imo. I'm expecting to see Lance take the league by storm though.

He doesn't have to take the league by storm. To expect that is unreasonable. All he really has to do in order for the team to have good success is to play just a little better than did Garoppolo when he was healthy. Do that, and stay healthy, and this team will do well.

I would disagree with that. I'd expect more than a slight Improvement over Jimmy considering how much draft capital was Invested to acquire Lance to begin with. I understand he still lacks experience/playing time, but that was Kyle's decision to stick with Jimmy all of last season.

I dont think the draft capital was invested for 1 single "show me" year of his first year starting @ 22. I think it was more of a longterm investment. Taking the league by storm is more of a right away thing. Josh Allen didn't take the league by storm right away or anything, but I think he's doing just fine, no?

If the Bills gave up 3 1sts to get to spot #7 and get him,....I dont think that makes him a bust of a pick or anything to have not done much better his 1st year starting.

You are selected where your selected. How much teams give up for you is a separate matter that's not on the kid drafted.

"My mind was changed about Jimmy because of your argument."

- Nobody

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Lance struggles this year, that would be a bad sign Imo. I'm expecting to see Lance take the league by storm though.

He doesn't have to take the league by storm. To expect that is unreasonable. All he really has to do in order for the team to have good success is to play just a little better than did Garoppolo when he was healthy. Do that, and stay healthy, and this team will do well.

I would disagree with that. I'd expect more than a slight Improvement over Jimmy considering how much draft capital was Invested to acquire Lance to begin with. I understand he still lacks experience/playing time, but that was Kyle's decision to stick with Jimmy all of last season.

Slight improvement over Jimmy is not taking the league by storm. Slightly better than Jimmy is like Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, or Dak Prescott.

That's what I'm saying... And that's why I'm expecting much more from Lance next season, regardless of young and Inexperienced he Is.

You setting your self up for failure with this train of thought. Just b/c they gave up a ton of draft capital doesn't mean they guy will be an instant success. Do you expect any player drafted number 1 overall to be an instant success? Even the top tier picks who have had hall of fame careers had growing pains and sluggish starts to their careers. They guy will need playing time to develop. Not saying you shouldn't have high expectations but it sounds like your expectations might be over the moon high

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Lance struggles this year, that would be a bad sign Imo. I'm expecting to see Lance take the league by storm though.

He doesn't have to take the league by storm. To expect that is unreasonable. All he really has to do in order for the team to have good success is to play just a little better than did Garoppolo when he was healthy. Do that, and stay healthy, and this team will do well.

I would disagree with that. I'd expect more than a slight Improvement over Jimmy considering how much draft capital was Invested to acquire Lance to begin with. I understand he still lacks experience/playing time, but that was Kyle's decision to stick with Jimmy all of last season.

Slight improvement over Jimmy is not taking the league by storm. Slightly better than Jimmy is like Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, or Dak Prescott.

That's what I'm saying... And that's why I'm expecting much more from Lance next season, regardless of young and Inexperienced he Is.

You setting your self up for failure with this train of thought. Just b/c they gave up a ton of draft capital doesn't mean they guy will be an instant success. Do you expect any player drafted number 1 overall to be an instant success? Even the top tier picks who have had hall of fame careers had growing pains and sluggish starts to their careers. They guy will need playing time to develop. Not saying you shouldn't have high expectations but it sounds like your expectations might be over the moon high

Don't worry - Trey will be dynamic. I have that much confidence in the kid.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I'll be here rooting for Lance 100%. I'll give Lance the same respect I give Jimmy and fight the good fight against those who will needlessly try to bring him down. I've repeatedly said I want Lance to start as I know what Jimmy is. A good, sometimes great, other times down right infuriating QB. Tret has a chance to be a Super Star. Now will he?

I'm not going to pretend to know until he actually does something.

No Jimmy jersey btw. Just Brent Jones, Alex, and Willis.

it's okay to be critical about a player. If Lance ends up playing like Jimmy 4 yrs from now it should be talked about.