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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by joanieb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?


If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

LOL... did someone just posted MORE negative things about KS10?

OR did someone just tried confirming that The Best Mind In Football wont have anyone else to point to once Grappy's gone... wait wait.. the rest of team still under the HC..


At some point, we need to see what Lance can do. If we fail to reach the playoffs this season with Lance at the helm, it's fair to say Kyle and Lynch messed up big time.

That's ludicrous. Most QBs don't really figure it out until year three or four. It's possible Lance struggles in year 2 and makes All Pro in year six. No reasonable person will get nervous about Trey until year three or four.

I don't buy this. By year 2 you should he seeing something that gives you hope. Yes he will struggle at times, but i want to see steady improvement this year, and by next year we should know for sure. year 3 is where we should really start being concerned if it doesn't click.

He's ALREADY seen something that gives hope. Only the Jimmy clan members who didn't watch when he played (you? I recall you having to "re-watch" the Texans game after people called you out on the "6 yard pass" to Kittle comment) don't have hope.




Ignoring the highlights in and of themselves, you can see the difference from the start of that video to the end. You can see the development. Only a blind man wouldn't see it. And that should give you some hope.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by joanieb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?


If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

LOL... did someone just posted MORE negative things about KS10?

OR did someone just tried confirming that The Best Mind In Football wont have anyone else to point to once Grappy's gone... wait wait.. the rest of team still under the HC..


At some point, we need to see what Lance can do. If we fail to reach the playoffs this season with Lance at the helm, it's fair to say Kyle and Lynch messed up big time.

That's ludicrous. Most QBs don't really figure it out until year three or four. It's possible Lance struggles in year 2 and makes All Pro in year six. No reasonable person will get nervous about Trey until year three or four.

What Qbs are you referring too? Most young Qbs look good from the get go these days, especially ones that are drafted by talented teams. The only ones who struggle, are the one's drafted by bad teams. We replaced Jimmy to move forwards, not to go backwards.

After ONE YEAR of starting?

2021: Lawrence, Fields, Wilson, all sucked, still on the team.
2020: Tua, Love, both still on their team.
2019: Daniel Jones, sucked the whole time, still on the team. Haskins, our first 1st round QB to be moved (RIP). Lock, our first 2nd round QB to be moved. So ALL these guys lasted THREE YEARS.
2018: Rosen, the very first QB to fit this idea that QBs shouldn't be given three years. He got one. But Darnold got three years. Mayfield got four.
2017: Trubisky got four years. Mahomes and Watson are All Pros.
2016: Goff was drafted on a decent team. Lasted six seasons. Wentz five season, and the Eagles were 7-9 the year before he was drafted, so it's not like they were terrible.
2015: Winston and Mariota lasted several years on their teams (five for Winston, five for Mariota).

Now, it's true, these guys mostly went to bad teams, but not necessarily bad offenses. Moreover, the ones who did go to good teams are Love, Mahomes, and Allen. And that's it. Two of those three are going to the Hall of Fame unless some unforeseen events take place.

So you have THREE rookie QBs on good teams. Three. One of whom has done nothing but is still on the team. And Allen SUCKED his first two years starting, which already undermines your argument.

It's. Ludicrous. To. Expect. A. Rookie. QB. To. Dominate. His. Very. First. Year. Starting.

Only guys who are likely heading to the Hall of Fame do that.

I hate to break it to you, but every one of those guys are considered busts. (Except for the most recent bunch, yet). I mean, even Tua is on the hot seat this year. Jones didn't have his 5th year picked up. Now it may be because they went to bad teams (Love the exception).

And what's wrong with expecting trey to go the hall of fame? With the haul we gave up that should be our expectation.

So I'm saying, by next year, treys 3rd, we should be seeing something real promising.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by joanieb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?


If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

LOL... did someone just posted MORE negative things about KS10?

OR did someone just tried confirming that The Best Mind In Football wont have anyone else to point to once Grappy's gone... wait wait.. the rest of team still under the HC..


At some point, we need to see what Lance can do. If we fail to reach the playoffs this season with Lance at the helm, it's fair to say Kyle and Lynch messed up big time.

That's ludicrous. Most QBs don't really figure it out until year three or four. It's possible Lance struggles in year 2 and makes All Pro in year six. No reasonable person will get nervous about Trey until year three or four.

I don't buy this. By year 2 you should he seeing something that gives you hope. Yes he will struggle at times, but i want to see steady improvement this year, and by next year we should know for sure. year 3 is where we should really start being concerned if it doesn't click.

He's ALREADY seen something that gives hope. Only the Jimmy clan members who didn't watch when he played (you? I recall you having to "re-watch" the Texans game after people called you out on the "6 yard pass" to Kittle comment) don't have hope.




Ignoring the highlights in and of themselves, you can see the difference from the start of that video to the end. You can see the development. Only a blind man wouldn't see it. And that should give you some hope.

I did see some promising things from Trey in that Houston game. What I'd like to to see is him doing it consistently by next year. Hopefully with more snaps.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by joanieb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?


If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

LOL... did someone just posted MORE negative things about KS10?

OR did someone just tried confirming that The Best Mind In Football wont have anyone else to point to once Grappy's gone... wait wait.. the rest of team still under the HC..


At some point, we need to see what Lance can do. If we fail to reach the playoffs this season with Lance at the helm, it's fair to say Kyle and Lynch messed up big time.

What part of Trey's performance last season has folks feeling like the glass is half empty? Sure. He missed some reads. Jimmy missed plenty of them last season as well. Trey also showed he can make up for his inexperience by making ad-lib plays. Something Jimmy rarely does. Trey can only become more experienced by playing through and learning from his mistakes. Imo, he has shown enough good that he should be given the opportunity to learn on the job. It also helps having Shanahan as your play caller but maybe thats just me.

I agree though 2 games isn't even a fraction of his career. He did show positive traits but that means nothing until he gets more filmed and game planned against.

Sure. It is an unkown. It will remain an unknown until we take that leap. We used 3 1st round draft picks to select this guy. He showed some ups and downs in his limited playing time. He also showed significant growth from pre season through the Texans game. He is a young QB who is intelligent, hard working and has plenty of talent to be successful.

If this glass is half empty attitude is because you all are affraid of the unknown. I have to say, that is no way to live.

I'm not afraid of the unknown... I want the best QB out there unlike you guys who are terrified of competition. I want Trey because his ceiling is extremely high and I know Jimmy's ceiling but if he can't do what Jimmy has done his healthy seasons and get us deep into the playoffs then stick with Jimmy. You guys would rather it be Trey or lose... Be honest. It's not about football with you guys. It's about the Jimmy being gone... Nothing else. No matter if it hurts the team.

My glass is I want to win no matter who
Your glass is hatred towards a player. Nothing more


So what you are afraid of is losing the regular season instead of losing another NFCCG or SB? Jimmy has not proven that he can win a SB. So where does this extreme confidence come from?

Yes. Thanks for not denying that you only care about Jimmy being gone nothing more. Respect.

My confidence is his only two healthy seasons he's gotten us to the NFCC or SB. My confidence is his third leading winning %. My confidence is his undeniable record to help the team win.

Now what leads you to believe he can't do it again? Fairy tales...

What? Lose another SB or NFCCG?

Yeah...

At least you hypocritically finally admitted QBs win and lose games. That was like pulling teeth. Too bad you hypocritically only give him credit for the losses.

And you only give him credit for the wins.

I don't get this mindset. Kyle hasn't won a superbowl in 5 years. Should we toss him because that means he can't win the big one? So why jimmy?

Because Kyle scheme the guys open and Jimmy just missed them or didn't see them?
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by joanieb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?


If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

LOL... did someone just posted MORE negative things about KS10?

OR did someone just tried confirming that The Best Mind In Football wont have anyone else to point to once Grappy's gone... wait wait.. the rest of team still under the HC..


At some point, we need to see what Lance can do. If we fail to reach the playoffs this season with Lance at the helm, it's fair to say Kyle and Lynch messed up big time.

That's ludicrous. Most QBs don't really figure it out until year three or four. It's possible Lance struggles in year 2 and makes All Pro in year six. No reasonable person will get nervous about Trey until year three or four.

I don't buy this. By year 2 you should he seeing something that gives you hope. Yes he will struggle at times, but i want to see steady improvement this year, and by next year we should know for sure. year 3 is where we should really start being concerned if it doesn't click.

He's ALREADY seen something that gives hope. Only the Jimmy clan members who didn't watch when he played (you? I recall you having to "re-watch" the Texans game after people called you out on the "6 yard pass" to Kittle comment) don't have hope.




Ignoring the highlights in and of themselves, you can see the difference from the start of that video to the end. You can see the development. Only a blind man wouldn't see it. And that should give you some hope.

I did see some promising things from Trey in that Houston game. What I'd like to to see is him doing it consistently by next year. Hopefully with more snaps.

Yes. We've seen what a guy who can only make highlight plays is like—Kaepernick.

Of course, Trey is not very much like Kap. Not really at all. Not the same attitude when it comes to quarterbacking, in particular. While Kap hit the weights and studied opponents, he wasn't interested in improving his delivery or mechanics. Trey is more like Tom Brady in that respect.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by joanieb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?


If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

LOL... did someone just posted MORE negative things about KS10?

OR did someone just tried confirming that The Best Mind In Football wont have anyone else to point to once Grappy's gone... wait wait.. the rest of team still under the HC..


At some point, we need to see what Lance can do. If we fail to reach the playoffs this season with Lance at the helm, it's fair to say Kyle and Lynch messed up big time.

That's ludicrous. Most QBs don't really figure it out until year three or four. It's possible Lance struggles in year 2 and makes All Pro in year six. No reasonable person will get nervous about Trey until year three or four.

I don't buy this. By year 2 you should he seeing something that gives you hope. Yes he will struggle at times, but i want to see steady improvement this year, and by next year we should know for sure. year 3 is where we should really start being concerned if it doesn't click.

He's ALREADY seen something that gives hope. Only the Jimmy clan members who didn't watch when he played (you? I recall you having to "re-watch" the Texans game after people called you out on the "6 yard pass" to Kittle comment) don't have hope.




Ignoring the highlights in and of themselves, you can see the difference from the start of that video to the end. You can see the development. Only a blind man wouldn't see it. And that should give you some hope.

I did see some promising things from Trey in that Houston game. What I'd like to to see is him doing it consistently by next year. Hopefully with more snaps.

Yes. We've seen what a guy who can only make highlight plays is like—Kaepernick.

Of course, Trey is not very much like Kap. Not really at all. Not the same attitude when it comes to quarterbacking, in particular. While Kap hit the weights and studied opponents, he wasn't interested in improving his delivery or mechanics. Trey is more like Tom Brady in that respect.

Alot of guys come in with that mindset. Hell, I remember reading an article that after kap was drafted he called Harbaugh that night and wanted to drive to Santa clara that night and hit the ground running. It has to click. It's not an easy thing to do. If it was, there'd be more bradys.
[ Edited by JoseCortez on May 15, 2022 at 8:12 AM ]
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Yes. Thanks for not denying that you only care about Jimmy being gone nothing more. Respect.

My confidence is his only two healthy seasons he's gotten us to the NFCC or SB. My confidence is his third leading winning %. My confidence is his undeniable record to help the team win.

Now what leads you to believe he can't do it again? Fairy tales...

Once they moved up for a QB in the draft, Jimmy was playing on borrowed time. One of the greatest assets in having a starting QB on a rookie contract is the money you can invest around him….they've already wasted a yr of that contract and here you are trying to burn another yr AND pay an avg QB $27M in FGTD cash lol.

You think Jimmy is gonna win us a super bowl? Honestly? He's been dreadful in the playoffs and has had his chances….if SF can find a trade partner he's gone and that's a fact. The league played musical chairs with starting QBs this off season and we couldn't even get a sniff for him….The only reason he's still on the team is because they can't move him right now. Period.

He is the heir apparent to Jimmy Garoppolo, who remains atop the team's depth chart. And York said he is fine if Garoppolo remains as coach Kyle Shanahan's starter for a year — or even two.

"We've talked about this internally," York said on 49ers Talk. "If we're in a situation where Jimmy goes out and takes us to a Super Bowl again and has an MVP-caliber season, and does it again, there are worse dilemmas to be in. And Jimmy certainly has the ability to do that."

"If he doesn't play until he's 23, but he's got a 15-plus year career …" York said of Lance. "There were rumors about a guy, and obviously Kyle talked about trading for Aaron. How long did Aaron sit? Two or three years before he played? And, again, I want to make sure that we do everything we can to make sure that position is the best it can possibly be in the NFL."

link

The FO has been more than ready to let him sit for 2 seasons. Sure he didn't have the best season last year but he was one or two plays away from the SB. Yes I think we can win a SB with Jimmy but I understand he has some deficiencies that a better QB could mask. Is a 22 year old Trey that? Maybe but not many 22 years old go out and catch the NFL on fire.

Gonna be hilarious when Lance is starting and your nowhere to be found.

fwiw you can still wear your Jimmy jersey even if he's not starting it's okay man.

I'll be here rooting for Lance 100%. I'll give Lance the same respect I give Jimmy and fight the good fight against those who will needlessly try to bring him down. I've repeatedly said I want Lance to start as I know what Jimmy is. A good, sometimes great, other times down right infuriating QB. Tret has a chance to be a Super Star. Now will he?

I'm not going to pretend to know until he actually does something.

No Jimmy jersey btw. Just Brent Jones, Alex, and Willis.
Now you're lying. 100% rooting for Lance lol. You're love for jimmy is mentally blocking all of your common sense. Trey is the starter

I have been nothing but complimentary towards Trey. I don't get why one has to hate one to like the other. I simply don't. I like them both. Crazy concept for a fan, eh?

You may not hate Trey but you certainly have no confidence in him.

But what would be wrong with this?

I don't get why some fans can't seperate 2 different positions.

1. A fan can root for Trey.
2. A fan can have serious reservations as to how Trey will turn out.

It can be both, and that's OK. Some posters on here can't accept that, and they take it personally. It's a fascinating concept to me.

Just not if you replace the word "Trey" with "Jimmy." Hundreds of examples of posts proving that.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by joanieb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?


If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

LOL... did someone just posted MORE negative things about KS10?

OR did someone just tried confirming that The Best Mind In Football wont have anyone else to point to once Grappy's gone... wait wait.. the rest of team still under the HC..


At some point, we need to see what Lance can do. If we fail to reach the playoffs this season with Lance at the helm, it's fair to say Kyle and Lynch messed up big time.

That's ludicrous. Most QBs don't really figure it out until year three or four. It's possible Lance struggles in year 2 and makes All Pro in year six. No reasonable person will get nervous about Trey until year three or four.

I don't buy this. By year 2 you should he seeing something that gives you hope. Yes he will struggle at times, but i want to see steady improvement this year, and by next year we should know for sure. year 3 is where we should really start being concerned if it doesn't click.

He's ALREADY seen something that gives hope. Only the Jimmy clan members who didn't watch when he played (you? I recall you having to "re-watch" the Texans game after people called you out on the "6 yard pass" to Kittle comment) don't have hope.




Ignoring the highlights in and of themselves, you can see the difference from the start of that video to the end. You can see the development. Only a blind man wouldn't see it. And that should give you some hope.

I did see some promising things from Trey in that Houston game. What I'd like to to see is him doing it consistently by next year. Hopefully with more snaps.

Yes. We've seen what a guy who can only make highlight plays is like—Kaepernick.

Of course, Trey is not very much like Kap. Not really at all. Not the same attitude when it comes to quarterbacking, in particular. While Kap hit the weights and studied opponents, he wasn't interested in improving his delivery or mechanics. Trey is more like Tom Brady in that respect.

Alot of guys come in with that mindset. Hell, I remember reading an article that after kap was drafted he called Harbaugh that night and wanted to drive to Santa clara that night and hit the ground running. It has to click. It's not an easy thing to do. If it was, there'd be more bradys.

Go look at Trey's twitter. You can go back to when he was fourteen years old. Dude has been mature and motivated his entire life. Trey at 14 was older than Bosa at 19. This is not new behavior for him.

EDIT—lol maybe that's why he's (allegedly) balding early.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on May 15, 2022 at 8:20 AM ]
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by joanieb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Do we let JG have the Bears game since he has ownage?


If they were smart, which they aren't, they would let JG start. I just rewatched this game ... Jimmy rushed for 2 tds, the Bears have never beaten him and it's his hometown. Lance could beat the Bears, but it's not as sure a thing. Fields had a nice game against the 49ers, and next year he'll be better.

I find it very difficult to believe what I keep hearing, the 49ers are going to trust the season to Trey Lance. That's very risky, rookies start for bad teams ... not good ones like the 49ers. I don't think that Lance will win the close games, I don't think he'll make it to the post season, but at least you won't have Jimmy Garoppolo to kick around anymore.

You are not allowed to have this opinion in here. How dare you.

LOL... did someone just posted MORE negative things about KS10?

OR did someone just tried confirming that The Best Mind In Football wont have anyone else to point to once Grappy's gone... wait wait.. the rest of team still under the HC..


At some point, we need to see what Lance can do. If we fail to reach the playoffs this season with Lance at the helm, it's fair to say Kyle and Lynch messed up big time.

That's ludicrous. Most QBs don't really figure it out until year three or four. It's possible Lance struggles in year 2 and makes All Pro in year six. No reasonable person will get nervous about Trey until year three or four.

I don't buy this. By year 2 you should he seeing something that gives you hope. Yes he will struggle at times, but i want to see steady improvement this year, and by next year we should know for sure. year 3 is where we should really start being concerned if it doesn't click.

He's ALREADY seen something that gives hope. Only the Jimmy clan members who didn't watch when he played (you? I recall you having to "re-watch" the Texans game after people called you out on the "6 yard pass" to Kittle comment) don't have hope.




Ignoring the highlights in and of themselves, you can see the difference from the start of that video to the end. You can see the development. Only a blind man wouldn't see it. And that should give you some hope.

I did see some promising things from Trey in that Houston game. What I'd like to to see is him doing it consistently by next year. Hopefully with more snaps.

Yes. We've seen what a guy who can only make highlight plays is like—Kaepernick.

Of course, Trey is not very much like Kap. Not really at all. Not the same attitude when it comes to quarterbacking, in particular. While Kap hit the weights and studied opponents, he wasn't interested in improving his delivery or mechanics. Trey is more like Tom Brady in that respect.

Sometimes I remember how this guy fumbled the opening season snap at Detroit 🤣
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/158204-breer-jimmy-garoppolos-49ers-dependent-lances-offseason-development/

Feel this is the right way to go, see if Lance can beat out Garoppolo
Originally posted by Since07:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/158204-breer-jimmy-garoppolos-49ers-dependent-lances-offseason-development/

Feel this is the right way to go, see if Lance can beat out Garoppolo

If year two Trey cannot make the 49ers' staff believe he is the better option moving forward, there is a galactic problem in Santa Clara.
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by Since07:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/158204-breer-jimmy-garoppolos-49ers-dependent-lances-offseason-development/

Feel this is the right way to go, see if Lance can beat out Garoppolo

If year two Trey cannot make the 49ers' staff believe he is the better option moving forward, there is a galactic problem in Santa Clara.

Correct. It's been reported that Shanahan was seriously considering starting Trey week 1, but he got injured and the decision was made for him. I think it's safe to say Trey is going to be at least marginally better than what he was last training camp. And since 2017, Jimmy has been the same level of player.

The one piece of information that Breer didn't mention is they don't owe Jimmy any money until Week 1, except for an injury. So I still think it's unlikely that Jimmy will actually step onto the field.

But the national narrative is much better that Trey looks great and beat Jimmy out.
"Lance finished his second start 16-for-23 with 249 yards, two touchdowns, and one pick. He also carried the ball eight times for 31 yards and was sacked just once. Despite a quiet start, he looked comfortable executing the passing game. Shanahan's offense is renowned for scheming open middle-of-the-field receivers, often on crossing routes that allow targets to pick up yards after the catch. This has been Garoppolo's calling card and a key reason he's on pace to lead the league in YAC per completion (6.5) for the second time in three seasons (2019). (For what it's worth, Nick Mullens led the league in 2018 as a 49er.) This season, Garoppolo's average depth of target, meanwhile, ranks 10th lowest in the league, and only New York's Daniel Jones (6.6 percent) has targeted players 20 yards downfield or more at a lower rate than Garoppolo's 7.6 percent clip. That's where Lance can change Shanahan's offense. The Niners had no issues attacking deep with Lance, whose 12-yard average depth of target marked the highest for a San Francisco starting quarterback since 2017."

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2022/1/4/22866075/trey-lance-san-francisco-49ers-offense-dimension
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Once they moved up for a QB in the draft, Jimmy was playing on borrowed time. One of the greatest assets in having a starting QB on a rookie contract is the money you can invest around him….they've already wasted a yr of that contract and here you are trying to burn another yr AND pay an avg QB $27M in FGTD cash lol.

You think Jimmy is gonna win us a super bowl? Honestly? He's been dreadful in the playoffs and has had his chances….if SF can find a trade partner he's gone and that's a fact. The league played musical chairs with starting QBs this off season and we couldn't even get a sniff for him….The only reason he's still on the team is because they can't move him right now. Period.

You say that Jimmy has been dreadful in the playoffs ... not true at all. In 2019 he beats the Vikings and Packers, but in 2021 he was better going on the road to beat the Cowboys and Packers as an underdog. That's a good record. When he looses to the Chiefs, he lost to the best team in the NFL and he did the same thing last year. OK, he's not No. 1, but he's not dreadful ... you might call him No. 2 at least in terms of playoffs. He's not dreadful, far from it.
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