Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think some folks are just afraid that Jimmy won't be able to live up to his success he had here and that Kyle will find success without him. It will kill their narrative that Kyle needs Jimmy more than Jimmy needs Kyle.

Or the opposite...

I'm still waiting for Kyle to have success with a qb other than Jimmy. look how great his hand picked qb that he traded up for in the 3rd round turned out.could it be there's a reason he wanted Kirk so bad? I've yet to have any confirmation that Kyle is able to hand pick a talented qb.

Did you really expect a 3rd round QB to become a HOFer? Lets get real about that. Bringing up Cousins is ironic since that was a hand picked QB of his. Who, ironically, has had a longer and better career than the owner's hand picked QB drafted that same year. Also, I recall, Matt Ryan had his best season under Shanahan.

HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

Originally posted by 9moon:
the IRONY on this is that when KS10 needed to run the ball against KC, he puts it on Grappy's hand... so in so many ways, KS10 has gots to take as much blame as Grappy and that's what these followers needs to accept..

Jimmy was not all pro.. couldn't even be a Pro Bowler last year... but Shanny ain't GREAT.. so FARRRRRR from it..

. and I will always say the TRUE facts that Shanny had his chances to pull the plug on Grappy if he was not all in, had chance to trade for Brady and Staff but did NOT..

it can't be all on Grappy...

if only we had PJ fleck or Chris Petersen

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

I know it's not like the HEAD COACH who's a defensive guru didn't give up 500 yards and blow a 28 pt lead in the second half. It's not like Matt Ryan didn't check out of runs, take a pointless sack, or the LT didn't get called for holding...I know who wants to put the ball in the hands of MVP of the league that year?

PJ Fleck would be better for sure

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think some folks are just afraid that Jimmy won't be able to live up to his success he had here and that Kyle will find success without him. It will kill their narrative that Kyle needs Jimmy more than Jimmy needs Kyle.

Or the opposite...

I'm still waiting for Kyle to have success with a qb other than Jimmy. look how great his hand picked qb that he traded up for in the 3rd round turned out.could it be there's a reason he wanted Kirk so bad? I've yet to have any confirmation that Kyle is able to hand pick a talented qb.

Did you really expect a 3rd round QB to become a HOFer? Lets get real about that. Bringing up Cousins is ironic since that was a hand picked QB of his. Who, ironically, has had a longer and better career than the owner's hand picked QB drafted that same year. Also, I recall, Matt Ryan had his best season under Shanahan.

HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

So you rather not have a chance to win a championship... ? lol

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I think some folks are just afraid that Jimmy won't be able to live up to his success he had here and that Kyle will find success without him. It will kill their narrative that Kyle needs Jimmy more than Jimmy needs Kyle.

Or the opposite...

I'm still waiting for Kyle to have success with a qb other than Jimmy. look how great his hand picked qb that he traded up for in the 3rd round turned out.could it be there's a reason he wanted Kirk so bad? I've yet to have any confirmation that Kyle is able to hand pick a talented qb.

Did you really expect a 3rd round QB to become a HOFer? Lets get real about that. Bringing up Cousins is ironic since that was a hand picked QB of his. Who, ironically, has had a longer and better career than the owner's hand picked QB drafted that same year.

Yes I did expect a 3rd round qb of a coaching genius to at least last in the league as a backup. He's barely hang9ng on.

Why does Kyle get credit for Kirk? Wasn't his father the coach? And what's so great about Kirk "Mr 8-8" cousins? He's safe, and that's about it.

But he is still a back up, right? How many 3rd round QB's end up long term starters?

Sure, Mike was the coach. From what I recall, Cousins was who Kyle wanted and was reinforced by the fact that he still wanted him when he became a head coach. Are you one of those folks that places the Falcons SB loss on Kyle and not the HC/DC?

Kirk Cousins has put up respectable numbers over the past 7 years. He hasn't thrown less than 25 TD's over the last 7 seasons and has thrown 35 and 33 over the last 2.

People are afraid that Jimmy won't find the success that he had here elsewhere. They are also afraid that Kyle found his guy and he might prove them wrong about his coaching acumen.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If he knew his physical limitations due to injury would limit the offense as it did, it makes him look even worse. Than when we are trying to find a trade partner, he turns around and throws a wrench into those plans by having a surprise, late surgery.

The idea that he intentionally delayed his surgery was somehow orchestrated by him really doesn't play. If I were to go back 500 pages I could find numerous references to medical opinions that the common treatment plan would be, lacking a clear need for surgery, to see if it would begin to heal on its own in 2-3 weeks. If not, surgery. The timeline fits this prognosis. Not Garoppolo's doing.

But he didn't inform the team, right? If so, that kind of undermines that argument.

My point was that the delay was a standard first step in treatment. It looks like he did not keep the team fully informed but I don't think we know all of that story.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

I know it's not like the HEAD COACH who's a defensive guru didn't give up 500 yards and blow a 28 pt lead in the second half. It's not like Matt Ryan didn't check out of runs, take a pointless sack, or the LT didn't get called for holding...I know who wants to put the ball in the hands of MVP of the league that year?

PJ Fleck would be better for sure

Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

I know it's not like the HEAD COACH who's a defensive guru didn't give up 500 yards and blow a 28 pt lead in the second half. It's not like Matt Ryan didn't check out of runs, take a pointless sack, or the LT didn't get called for holding...I know who wants to put the ball in the hands of MVP of the league that year?

PJ Fleck would be better for sure

Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

how much more inprovement can there be when the plays called have wide open targets... missed blocks and QBs who s**t the bed are not the plays called

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

I know it's not like the HEAD COACH who's a defensive guru didn't give up 500 yards and blow a 28 pt lead in the second half. It's not like Matt Ryan didn't check out of runs, take a pointless sack, or the LT didn't get called for holding...I know who wants to put the ball in the hands of MVP of the league that year?

PJ Fleck would be better for sure

Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

how much more inprovement can there be when the plays called have wide open targets... missed blocks and QBs who s**t the bed are not the plays called

Maybe f**king call a play that's a high percentage play to allow the team to get into a rhythm. You know, a play where you actually know who your personnel is.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

I know it's not like the HEAD COACH who's a defensive guru didn't give up 500 yards and blow a 28 pt lead in the second half. It's not like Matt Ryan didn't check out of runs, take a pointless sack, or the LT didn't get called for holding...I know who wants to put the ball in the hands of MVP of the league that year?

PJ Fleck would be better for sure

Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

how much more inprovement can there be when the plays called have wide open targets... missed blocks and QBs who s**t the bed are not the plays called

Maybe f**king call a play that's a high percentage play to allow the team to get into a rhythm. You know, a play where you actually know who your personnel is.

high % plays is all Kyle does. the film is there. Don't make up s**t now

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

I know it's not like the HEAD COACH who's a defensive guru didn't give up 500 yards and blow a 28 pt lead in the second half. It's not like Matt Ryan didn't check out of runs, take a pointless sack, or the LT didn't get called for holding...I know who wants to put the ball in the hands of MVP of the league that year?

PJ Fleck would be better for sure

Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

how much more inprovement can there be when the plays called have wide open targets... missed blocks and QBs who s**t the bed are not the plays called

Maybe f**king call a play that's a high percentage play to allow the team to get into a rhythm. You know, a play where you actually know who your personnel is.

high % plays is all Kyle does. the film is there. Don't make up s**t now

Yea, really. How about the easy play where Kittle fakes a block and gets wide open out in the flat and Jimmy isn't even looking his way. Hard to say that wasn't a designed, high percentage play that Jimmy completely botched.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

I know it's not like the HEAD COACH who's a defensive guru didn't give up 500 yards and blow a 28 pt lead in the second half. It's not like Matt Ryan didn't check out of runs, take a pointless sack, or the LT didn't get called for holding...I know who wants to put the ball in the hands of MVP of the league that year?

PJ Fleck would be better for sure

Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

how much more inprovement can there be when the plays called have wide open targets... missed blocks and QBs who s**t the bed are not the plays called

Maybe f**king call a play that's a high percentage play to allow the team to get into a rhythm. You know, a play where you actually know who your personnel is.

high % plays is all Kyle does. the film is there. Don't make up s**t now

I'm talking about 4th quarter offinse. I've watched that rams game again. The 4th quarter was all on Kyle. Just go back and watch that 1st 4th quarter drive. Talk about a choke job from kyle. Then comes the 2nd drive, Kyle panics even though the game is tied and calls 3 long developing plays knowing his offensive line is s**t. Then of course the final drive where Jimmy is running for his life. I'm not making s**t up.

I am pretty sure this play was called on the final drive or second to final drive. Kittle fakes a block and sneaks out for what would be a high percentage pass with a lot of open field for Kittle to do damage.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I am pretty sure this play was called on the final drive or second to final drive. Kittle fakes a block and sneaks out for what would be a high percentage pass with a lot of open field for Kittle to do damage.

First, I hate photos. Show the actual play as photos can be so deceiving. Also, how do you know the progression?

I'm not defending Jimmy in any way, but Kyle should not be exempt from criticism. He s**t the bed royally In the 4th. Specifically that 1st drive in the 4th. His 4th quarter play calling needs improvement in big games. That's what winners do.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Maybe f**king call a play that's a high percentage play to allow the team to get into a rhythm. You know, a play where you actually know who your personnel is.

Really? Wow. Kyle knows and uses his personnel way better than over 80% of the offensive head coaches.