Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I am pretty sure this play was called on the final drive or second to final drive. Kittle fakes a block and sneaks out for what would be a high percentage pass with a lot of open field for Kittle to do damage.

First, I hate photos. Show the actual play as photos can be so deceiving. Also, how do you know the progression?

I'm not defending Jimmy in any way, but Kyle should not be exempt from criticism. He s**t the bed royally In the 4th. Specifically that 1st drive in the 4th. His 4th quarter play calling needs improvement in big games. That's what winners do.

Kyle remedied the problem by drafting a more talented QB who can make oft schedule plays.

I once heard a coach say every play is designed to score. I'm sure he was exaggerating but his point is every play is designed to work. How well it works depends on the players executing and how well the defense responds. In reality, the offense doesn't always make every block and get wide open. The defense has ways of preventing that.

When a coach calls a play that doesn't work it's not because it was a bad play call. If they execute and it works then the coach is a genius.

It starts at the 47 minute mark. This breakdown does put some of the blame on Shanahan as well. So you might find it worth watching.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW did the Atlanta ended the season??

" ALMOST " - as in... they almost won the Super Bowl...

is ALMOST good enough ?

I know it's not like the HEAD COACH who's a defensive guru didn't give up 500 yards and blow a 28 pt lead in the second half. It's not like Matt Ryan didn't check out of runs, take a pointless sack, or the LT didn't get called for holding...I know who wants to put the ball in the hands of MVP of the league that year?

PJ Fleck would be better for sure

Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

how much more inprovement can there be when the plays called have wide open targets... missed blocks and QBs who s**t the bed are not the plays called

The game against the Rams In the NFCCG wasn't the first time Kyle's offense failed to score a single point. We can blame the QB all we want, but like I said, Kyle deserves plenty of blame too. Besides, It was Kyle who decided to stick with Jimmy all year.. that's on him, Is It not?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I am pretty sure this play was called on the final drive or second to final drive. Kittle fakes a block and sneaks out for what would be a high percentage pass with a lot of open field for Kittle to do damage.

like i said to Jose... the film is there.

so many options with jimmy already planted to throw and thats just one play^^^

Originally posted by YACBros85:
It starts at the 47 minute mark. This breakdown does put some of the blame on Shanahan as well. So you might find it worth watching.

This is fantastic. Thank you. Jimmy missed some throws for sure, but boy did that really magnify shanahans blame. This is exactly how I feel. Shanahans in game decisions need so much work.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I am pretty sure this play was called on the final drive or second to final drive. Kittle fakes a block and sneaks out for what would be a high percentage pass with a lot of open field for Kittle to do damage.

like i said to Jose... the film is there.

so many options with jimmy already planted to throw and thats just one play^^^

1st and 10. 6 minutes left. Tie game. Niners Defense exhausted. Rams no timeouts. Shanahan passes 3 times.

Jimmy's 2 worst plays were this and the kittle miss in the first drive. Shanahan botched the entire 4th quarter. You can't convince me otherwise. The tape is there.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I am pretty sure this play was called on the final drive or second to final drive. Kittle fakes a block and sneaks out for what would be a high percentage pass with a lot of open field for Kittle to do damage.

First, I hate photos. Show the actual play as photos can be so deceiving. Also, how do you know the progression?

I'm not defending Jimmy in any way, but Kyle should not be exempt from criticism. He s**t the bed royally In the 4th. Specifically that 1st drive in the 4th. His 4th quarter play calling needs improvement in big games. That's what winners do.

Kyle remedied the problem by drafting a more talented QB who can make oft schedule plays.

This actually may be correct. Since Kyle has problems with in game management. Trey may be the guy fix it. Only time will tell.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I am pretty sure this play was called on the final drive or second to final drive. Kittle fakes a block and sneaks out for what would be a high percentage pass with a lot of open field for Kittle to do damage.

like i said to Jose... the film is there.

so many options with jimmy already planted to throw and thats just one play^^^

1st and 10. 6 minutes left. Tie game. Niners Defense exhausted. Rams no timeouts. Shanahan passes 3 times.

Jimmy's 2 worst plays were this and the kittle miss in the first drive. Shanahan botched the entire 4th quarter. You can't convince me otherwise. The tape is there.

Rams were selling out on the run... it's why the reciving options are wide open

a 27 million dollar QB should be able to make 10 yard passes, but couldn't. game over

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
It starts at the 47 minute mark. This breakdown does put some of the blame on Shanahan as well. So you might find it worth watching.

This is fantastic. Thank you. Jimmy missed some throws for sure, but boy did that really magnify shanahans blame. This is exactly how I feel. Shanahans in game decisions need so much work.

You're welcome.

I agree with you somewhat. However, I didn't agree with Josh Putnam's criticism of not running the ball late in the game. Mitchell was virtually non existent all game. Deebo had some success early on running the ball. However, the Rams really shut the run game down in the second half. The Rams were forcing Jimmy to throw the ball. Jimmy had a handful of opportunities late in the game and he missed them. You cannot blame Shanahan for scheming guys open and Jimmy either not seeing them or refusing to pull the trigger.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
It starts at the 47 minute mark. This breakdown does put some of the blame on Shanahan as well. So you might find it worth watching.

This is fantastic. Thank you. Jimmy missed some throws for sure, but boy did that really magnify shanahans blame. This is exactly how I feel. Shanahans in game decisions need so much work.

How I view last season was that the NFC championship game was time for Jimmy to pick up some of the slack because I felt Kyle's coaching and the defense both performed extremely well in the first two playoff games.

If you isolate the NFC championship there's a lot of blame to go around including Kyle, the offensive line, and parts of the defense.

But in context of the entire post season I think it's fair to highlight Jimmy's play over the rest of the team that played unbelievable during the postseason when Jimmy never could.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You're welcome.

I agree with you somewhat. However, I didn't agree with Josh Putnam's criticism of not running the ball late in the game. Mitchell was virtually non existent all game. Deebo had some success early on running the ball. However, the Rams really shut the run game down in the second half. The Rams were forcing Jimmy to throw the ball. Jimmy had a handful of opportunities late in the game and he missed them. You cannot blame Shanahan for scheming guys open and Jimmy either not seeing them or refusing to pull the trigger.

Tbh. It's not hard top shutdown a run game when the plays are predictable... For example, running the ball up the gut with Deebo on consecutive plays to start the game was about as predictable as it gets. We all Saw those plays coming a mile away.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You're welcome.

I agree with you somewhat. However, I didn't agree with Josh Putnam's criticism of not running the ball late in the game. Mitchell was virtually non existent all game. Deebo had some success early on running the ball. However, the Rams really shut the run game down in the second half. The Rams were forcing Jimmy to throw the ball. Jimmy had a handful of opportunities late in the game and he missed them. You cannot blame Shanahan for scheming guys open and Jimmy either not seeing them or refusing to pull the trigger.

Tbh. It's not hard top shutdown a run game when the plays are predictable... For example, running the ball up the gut with Deebo on consecutive plays to start the game was about as predictable as it gets. We all Saw those plays coming a mile away.

yet it forced the Rams to run blitz up the middle.. and ended up with wide open guys to throw to... jimmmy was scared to throw

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You're welcome.

I agree with you somewhat. However, I didn't agree with Josh Putnam's criticism of not running the ball late in the game. Mitchell was virtually non existent all game. Deebo had some success early on running the ball. However, the Rams really shut the run game down in the second half. The Rams were forcing Jimmy to throw the ball. Jimmy had a handful of opportunities late in the game and he missed them. You cannot blame Shanahan for scheming guys open and Jimmy either not seeing them or refusing to pull the trigger.

Tbh. It's not hard top shutdown a run game when the plays are predictable... For example, running the ball up the gut with Deebo on consecutive plays to start the game was about as predictable as it gets. We all Saw those plays coming a mile away.

yet it forced the Rams to run blitz up the middle.. and ended up with wide open guys to throw to... jimmmy was scared to throw

We still making excuses for Kyle's poor game plan? I guess it's just a coincidence that his offenses have failed to score a single point In the 4th quarter of games I previously mentioned?.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You're welcome.

I agree with you somewhat. However, I didn't agree with Josh Putnam's criticism of not running the ball late in the game. Mitchell was virtually non existent all game. Deebo had some success early on running the ball. However, the Rams really shut the run game down in the second half. The Rams were forcing Jimmy to throw the ball. Jimmy had a handful of opportunities late in the game and he missed them. You cannot blame Shanahan for scheming guys open and Jimmy either not seeing them or refusing to pull the trigger.

Tbh. It's not hard top shutdown a run game when the plays are predictable... For example, running the ball up the gut with Deebo on consecutive plays to start the game was about as predictable as it gets. We all Saw those plays coming a mile away.

Perhaps the run game was a bit predictable. But what is Jimmy's excuse for missing a wide open Deebo down the sideline and also missing Aiyuk over the middle on the same play or the other handful of plays he left out on the field? You actually have to throw the ball in order to use the injury excuse.