Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
He made an effort for Stafford, talked to his agent, but just got out-maneuvered by the Rams.

The Brady thing was inexcusable.

I disagree it was inexcusable...Brady was coming off one of his worst seasons and was 42. Jimmy just went to the SB and while wasn't a all-pro there was a chance for him to improve off that. He ended not.

Stafford wanted to be in LA from day 1. He was interested in SF, but end of the day his wife wanted LA and the Lions had a former Rams FO guy as their GM. Plus they ate the Goff contract, SF wasn't doing that.

IMO if Watson didn't go off getting hand jibbers from everyone, he would be a Niner right now. I'm happy with Lance and excited to see what he can do in the future.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
The game against the Rams In the NFCCG wasn't the first time Kyle's offense failed to score a single point. We can blame the QB all we want, but like I said, Kyle deserves plenty of blame too. Besides, It was Kyle who decided to stick with Jimmy all year.. that's on him, Is It not?

You can blame every single HC when they don't score or lose.

Each play should be looked at if we're gonna put blame on so an so, it's not just a hey they didn't score so blame the HC or blame the QB. You can put together the perfect play call but if the players don't execute it doesn't mean a damn.

That's what I'm saying. I'm not putting all the fault at Kyle's door, but he does deserve some of the blame... Fwiw, I was one of the ones banging the drum to start Lance from day 1

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing the game plan?

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Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing game plan?

Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing game plan?

Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Yup. Blame Kyle for one of, if not, the biggest defensive collapses in SB history. Even though he wasn't even the HC. Like I said, I will give Kyle the benefit of the doubt until the verdict is out on Trey Lance.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing game plan?

Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Yup. Blame Kyle for one of, if not, the biggest defensive collapses in SB history. Even though he wasn't even the HC. Like I said, I will give Kyle the benefit of the doubt until the verdict is out on Trey Lance.

Where did I blame him for the outcome of the falcons super bowl? I'm referring to the fact that his offense failed to score a single point In the 4th quarter, despite having superstars all across the board.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing game plan?

Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Yup. Blame Kyle for one of, if not, the biggest defensive collapses in SB history. Even though he wasn't even the HC. Like I said, I will give Kyle the benefit of the doubt until the verdict is out on Trey Lance.

Where did I blame him for the outcome of the falcons super bowl? I'm referring to the fact that his offense failed to score a single point In the 4th quarter, despite having superstars all across the board.

His offense put up 28 points in that game. 28 points is enough to win a lot of games in the NFL.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing game plan?

Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Yup. Blame Kyle for one of, if not, the biggest defensive collapses in SB history. Even though he wasn't even the HC. Like I said, I will give Kyle the benefit of the doubt until the verdict is out on Trey Lance.

Where did I blame him for the outcome of the falcons super bowl? I'm referring to the fact that his offense failed to score a single point In the 4th quarter, despite having superstars all across the board.

His offense put up 28 points in that game. 28 points is enough to win a lot of games in the NFL.

That Is true... However, we're discussing the lack of production from his offense In 4th quarters of the games mentioned

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing game plan?

Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Yup. Blame Kyle for one of, if not, the biggest defensive collapses in SB history. Even though he wasn't even the HC. Like I said, I will give Kyle the benefit of the doubt until the verdict is out on Trey Lance.

Where did I blame him for the outcome of the falcons super bowl? I'm referring to the fact that his offense failed to score a single point In the 4th quarter, despite having superstars all across the board.

His offense put up 28 points in that game. 28 points is enough to win a lot of games in the NFL.

That Is true... However, we're discussing the lack of production from his offense In 4th quarters of the games mentioned

Which could be completely coincidental since its such a small sample size. Also since 2/3 games were with Jimmy playing QB.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing game plan?

Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Yup. Blame Kyle for one of, if not, the biggest defensive collapses in SB history. Even though he wasn't even the HC. Like I said, I will give Kyle the benefit of the doubt until the verdict is out on Trey Lance.

Where did I blame him for the outcome of the falcons super bowl? I'm referring to the fact that his offense failed to score a single point In the 4th quarter, despite having superstars all across the board.

His offense put up 28 points in that game. 28 points is enough to win a lot of games in the NFL.

That Is true... However, we're discussing the lack of production from his offense In 4th quarters of the games mentioned

Which could be completely coincidental since its such a small sample size.

Hope so. We'll soon see now we have Lance.. expecting big things this season.

Coaches and QB combos that don't win the SB in 5 years never go onto win it together. Last year was year 5 of the Kyle and Jimmy partnership.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-coaches-and-qbs-should-divorce-after-five-years-of-not-winning/amp/

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Coaches and QB combos that don't win the SB in 5 years never go onto win it together. Last year was year 5 of the Kyle and Jimmy partnership.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-coaches-and-qbs-should-divorce-after-five-years-of-not-winning/amp/

Nice find!

I wonder how much this hurts Jimmy's confidence. Knowing there isn't a single team in the entire league even willing to trade a ham sandwich for him. Probably hurts the poor fella's feelings too.