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May 16, 2022 at 3:04 PM
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Coaches and QB combos that don't win the SB in 5 years never go onto win it together. Last year was year 5 of the Kyle and Jimmy partnership.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-coaches-and-qbs-should-divorce-after-five-years-of-not-winning/amp/

Nice find!

1st year didn't count

Now Joe buck's forehead thinks Jimmy is going to stay.

I just want this season to start so the noise can stop.
May 16, 2022 at 3:08 PM
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Coaches and QB combos that don't win the SB in 5 years never go onto win it together. Last year was year 5 of the Kyle and Jimmy partnership.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-coaches-and-qbs-should-divorce-after-five-years-of-not-winning/amp/

Nice find!

1st year didn't count

Now Joe buck's forehead thinks Jimmy is going to stay.

I just want this season to start so the noise can stop.

It counts. Jimmy fans point to his winning regular season record which includes the 5-0 start in 2017, can't have it both ways.
May 16, 2022 at 8:37 PM
The offense is going to explode once it's free of its Jimitations!

May 16, 2022 at 10:44 PM
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
The offense is going to explode once it's free of its Jimitations!


I'm ready for Jimmy to be gone but that one I think Baldy is blaming Dwelly for not holding up his block at all.
May 16, 2022 at 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
The offense is going to explode once it's free of its Jimitations!


I'm ready for Jimmy to be gone but that one I think Baldy is blaming Dwelly for not holding up his block at all.

He's hinting at the QBs inability to step up and make the throw. That was the real issue.

Dude ran a 4.97 before he blew out his knee, he's not avoiding defenders in or outside the pocket.
[ Edited by SinceXVI on May 16, 2022 at 11:10 PM ]
May 17, 2022 at 1:53 AM
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Coaches and QB combos that don't win the SB in 5 years never go onto win it together. Last year was year 5 of the Kyle and Jimmy partnership.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-coaches-and-qbs-should-divorce-after-five-years-of-not-winning/amp/

Nice find!

1st year didn't count

Now Joe buck's forehead thinks Jimmy is going to stay.

I just want this season to start so the noise can stop.

If jimmy stays the noise will stop
May 17, 2022 at 5:04 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
He made an effort for Stafford, talked to his agent, but just got out-maneuvered by the Rams.

The Brady thing was inexcusable.

I disagree it was inexcusable...Brady was coming off one of his worst seasons and was 42. Jimmy just went to the SB and while wasn't a all-pro there was a chance for him to improve off that. He ended not.

Stafford wanted to be in LA from day 1. He was interested in SF, but end of the day his wife wanted LA and the Lions had a former Rams FO guy as their GM. Plus they ate the Goff contract, SF wasn't doing that.

IMO if Watson didn't go off getting hand jibbers from everyone, he would be a Niner right now. I'm happy with Lance and excited to see what he can do in the future.

The reason I said it's inexcusable is that even with Brady having a down year, he outplayed Jimmy. And that was with less prolific weapons.

But I suppose you're right on the following grounds: it must have been assumed that Jimmy would improve. No one could have known he'd flatline.
May 17, 2022 at 5:07 AM
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not to put all the blame on Kyle or anything, but his offense did fail to score any points In the 4th quarter of 3 crucial games. The Falcons/Pats super bowl. The 9ers/Chiefs super bowl and the NFCCG against the Rams. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for his lack of offensive production when It matters most. This Is a part of Kyles game that needs some serious Improvement. Let's see If we see a difference with Lance as our QB

Dude go look at the film from the NFCC. I've posted half a dozen plays were guys are wide freaking open....overall I know how you feel about Kyle.

I've seen the footage and I'm aware of how poorly JG executed the game plan. That doesn't excuse the fact that Kyle's offense once again failed to score points In the 4th quarter of a crucial game. As for the last part of the sentence.. I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm a fan of Kyle, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna criticize him when things go bad. Two super bowls and a HUGE Nfccg without a single point in the 4th quarter of either of those games... You can't make excuses for his lack of offensive production in those games, regardless of who's the QB.

Well how tf do you expect the offense to score if the QB is poorly executing game plan?

Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Yup. Blame Kyle for one of, if not, the biggest defensive collapses in SB history. Even though he wasn't even the HC. Like I said, I will give Kyle the benefit of the doubt until the verdict is out on Trey Lance.

Where did I blame him for the outcome of the falcons super bowl? I'm referring to the fact that his offense failed to score a single point In the 4th quarter, despite having superstars all across the board.

His offense put up 28 points in that game. 28 points is enough to win a lot of games in the NFL.

That Is true... However, we're discussing the lack of production from his offense In 4th quarters of the games mentioned

Did you watch that game? That was, from what I could tell, the fault of the offensive line. A key penalty and a key sack.
May 17, 2022 at 5:10 AM
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
The offense is going to explode once it's free of its Jimitations!


Please. This is one play. For every one of those there's three of these:



That isn't his game. It never has been. It never will be.
May 17, 2022 at 5:35 AM
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Matt Ryan took unneeded sacks, failing to throw the ball away when a play was dead (poor execution). LT get's called for holding, Freeman fails to pickup a blitz etc... here you are talking about him not giving the ball to Mosert and in the same breath wanting him to take the ball out of the MVP of the league's hands in the SB? Explain what play calls were just flat out bad play calls? I'm not talking about run vs pass either. Ryan much like Jimmy audibled out of run plays and guys simply couldn't block in certain positions when they did run. You do realize there's a defense that makes changes all the same too, right? As far as Jimmy goes....dude has been a disaster in the playoffs overall and even worse in the 4th QR.

So you're telling me Kyle should have benched Jimmy in the playoffs for rookie QB who outside of a two random games, got next to nothing in meaningful snaps for 7+ months? OH and didn't play football the year prior because of covid? LOL yeah okay. Only pattern I'm seeing his your distain for our HC. No one is saying he can't improve...every HC can. s**t Tomlin and Harbs haven't won a SB in over a decade (with better QBs). Bill hasn't won a playoff game without Brady. Andy Reid went to one SB prior to Mahomes in 20 years! Yet here we are complaining about Kyle
May 17, 2022 at 5:39 AM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
The offense is going to explode once it's free of its Jimitations!


Please. This is one play. For every one of those there's three of these:



That isn't his game. It never has been. It never will be.

Jimmy's pocket presence is poop. He would get hit by the only dude within 5 yards of him. Kyle's play call gives him a clean pocket, all he's got to do is move up in the pocket and toss it downfield. Instead he stands there waiting...
[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 17, 2022 at 5:45 AM ]
May 17, 2022 at 5:53 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
The offense is going to explode once it's free of its Jimitations!


Please. This is one play. For every one of those there's three of these:



That isn't his game. It never has been. It never will be.

Jimmy's pocket presence is poop. He would get hit by the only dude within 5 yards of him. Kyle's play call gives him a clean pocket, all he's got to do is move up in the pocket and toss it downfield. Instead he stands there waiting...

You gonna hold Trey to the same standards since it's so easy? Every single QB misses throws like this. Trey will too.
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on May 17, 2022 at 6:01 AM ]
May 17, 2022 at 6:02 AM
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
You gonna hold Trey to the same standards since it's so easy?

after being in the league for 8 years (53 starts)? yes...year 2 of basically his rookie season, no....you shouldn't either.

How about you be objective on a given play about your lord and savior Jimmy for once? His pocket presence is less then desirable, and that's just a fact. That play is just another example of his issue with it.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 17, 2022 at 6:03 AM ]
May 17, 2022 at 6:07 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
You gonna hold Trey to the same standards since it's so easy?

after being in the league for 8 years (53 starts)? yes...year 2 of basically his rookie season, no....you shouldn't either.

How about you be objective on a given play about your lord and savior Jimmy for once? His pocket presence is less then desirable, and that's just a fact. That play is just another example of his issue with it.

He's literally sitting in the pocket lol. He simply missed the throw which I can find every single QB in history doing. It's had nothing to do with a pocket.

My savior yet you're not going to hold another QB to the same standards. Interesting... Me I will... I understand that QBs miss easy ones a of the time. Should the throw have been made? Of course.
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on May 17, 2022 at 6:08 AM ]
May 17, 2022 at 6:10 AM
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
He's literally sitting in the pocket lol. He simply missed the throw which I can find every single QB in history doing. It's had nothing to do with a pocket.

My savior yet you're not going to hold another QB to the same standards. Interesting...

yes "sitting" is the key word....that play is designed to get Jimmy in space and have room to make a throw downfield. He needs to move UP in the pocket, not let the one dude who's within 5 yards of him hit him OR have some damn anticipation....he's gotta see that the safety is flat footed and BA has the win there...the ball should be out when he's at the 40 yard line.

Why would you hold a rookie QB to the same standards as a guy with 50+ starts? Do you understand how stupid that is? talk about more bias b******t from you. If Lance is playing like Jimmy 4 years from now, then yeah there will be the same criticism all the same.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 17, 2022 at 6:24 AM ]
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