Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
He's literally sitting in the pocket lol. He simply missed the throw which I can find every single QB in history doing. It's had nothing to do with a pocket.

My savior yet you're not going to hold another QB to the same standards. Interesting...

yes "sitting" is the key word....that play is designed to get Jimmy in space and have room to make a throw downfield. He needs to move UP in the pocket, not let the one dude who's within 5 yards of him hit him OR have some damn anticipation....he's gotta see that the safety is flat footed and BA has the win there...the ball should be out when he's at the 40 yard line.

Why would you hold a rookie QB to the same standards as a guy with 50+ starts? Do you understand how stupid that is? talk about more bias b******t from you. If Lance is playing like Jimmy 4 years from now, then yeah there will be the same criticism all the same.

LMFAO why? Why does he need to move up? What good does moving up in the pocket do here lol?

LMFAO you're just making stuff up just to hate. It was a poor throw, nothing more. Lol I'm perplexed who is within 5 yards? Nobody is pressuring him he literally just missed an easy throw. Again something Trey will do... Something Brady does... Something Montana did... Something every single QB in history will and has done. Why make up random " not let the one dude who's within 5 yards of him hit him" whatever you are talking about?

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
LMFAO why? Why does he need to move up? What good does moving up in the pocket do here lol?

LMFAO you're just making stuff up just to hate. It was a poor throw, nothing more. Lol I'm perplexed who is within 5 yards? Nobody is pressuring him he literally just missed an easy throw. Again something Trey will do... Something Brady does... Something Montana did... Something every single QB in history will and has done. Why make up random " not let the one dude who's within 5 yards of him hit him" whatever you are talking about?

I'm talking about this play...figured you would have known that since I was talking about BA, throwing at the 40 yard line and the pocket being moved for Jimmy. So yeah not making up anything. Read what I write.


That was just a horrible throw vs the titans.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Matt Ryan took unneeded sacks, failing to throw the ball away when a play was dead (poor execution). LT get's called for holding, Freeman fails to pickup a blitz etc... here you are talking about him not giving the ball to Mosert and in the same breath wanting him to take the ball out of the MVP of the league's hands in the SB? Explain what play calls were just flat out bad play calls? I'm not talking about run vs pass either. Ryan much like Jimmy audibled out of run plays and guys simply couldn't block in certain positions when they did run. You do realize there's a defense that makes changes all the same too, right? As far as Jimmy goes....dude has been a disaster in the playoffs overall and even worse in the 4th QR.

So you're telling me Kyle should have benched Jimmy in the playoffs for rookie QB who outside of a two random games, got next to nothing in meaningful snaps for 7+ months? OH and didn't play football the year prior because of covid? LOL yeah okay. Only pattern I'm seeing his your distain for our HC. No one is saying he can't improve...every HC can. s**t Tomlin and Harbs haven't won a SB in over a decade (with better QBs). Bill hasn't won a playoff game without Brady. Andy Reid went to one SB prior to Mahomes in 20 years! Yet here we are complaining about Kyle

So, that's three crucial games without a single point in the 4tb quarter of either of those and none of that Is on Kyle?. That's funny. As for comparing the Mostert situation with Ryan, I don't think that's even close to be the same? Mostert ( our most explosive player ) shared touches all game with an average RB ( Coleman ) all because Kyle gets a stiffy for certain guys. The Ryan's situation was completely different, everyone and their momma knows that the falcons should be running the ball.. don't blame the players for that nonsense.

I'm also aware that defenses make changes, the same way offenses make adjustments ( Kyle failed ) how does someone fail to score a point when it mattered most when you have, Jones, White, Ryan's, ect? .. let's stop being so defensive over any criticism of Kyle... You starting to sound like those Jimmy fans. As I've stated many times in the past... Kyle and Lynch deserve all the praise in the world for making us competitive again, buy they also deserve blame for costing the opportunity of winning at least one super bowl.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Did you watch that game? That was, from what I could tell, the fault of the offensive line. A key penalty and a key sack.

Yes I did... I Saw a coach who decided to pass when he should have ran the ball.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
LMFAO why? Why does he need to move up? What good does moving up in the pocket do here lol?

LMFAO you're just making stuff up just to hate. It was a poor throw, nothing more. Lol I'm perplexed who is within 5 yards? Nobody is pressuring him he literally just missed an easy throw. Again something Trey will do... Something Brady does... Something Montana did... Something every single QB in history will and has done. Why make up random " not let the one dude who's within 5 yards of him hit him" whatever you are talking about?

I'm talking about this play...figured you would have known that since I was talking about BA, throwing at the 40 yard line and the pocket being moved for Jimmy. So yeah not making up anything. Read what I write.

.@49ers @THE2ERA had his number called and he got the safety a bad case of the "twisty's" but they just aren't executing well enough to make these throws and change the game. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/mh0BdFI3ht

— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 25, 2021

That was just a horrible throw vs the titans.

"If you can protect one second longer"

I'll go with Baldy over obvious every day bias, thanks. I'd recommend quoting the proper post next time but my bad.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
LMFAO why? Why does he need to move up? What good does moving up in the pocket do here lol?

LMFAO you're just making stuff up just to hate. It was a poor throw, nothing more. Lol I'm perplexed who is within 5 yards? Nobody is pressuring him he literally just missed an easy throw. Again something Trey will do... Something Brady does... Something Montana did... Something every single QB in history will and has done. Why make up random " not let the one dude who's within 5 yards of him hit him" whatever you are talking about?

I'm talking about this play...figured you would have known that since I was talking about BA, throwing at the 40 yard line and the pocket being moved for Jimmy. So yeah not making up anything. Read what I write.

.@49ers @THE2ERA had his number called and he got the safety a bad case of the "twisty's" but they just aren't executing well enough to make these throws and change the game. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/mh0BdFI3ht

— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) October 25, 2021

That was just a horrible throw vs the titans.

"If you can protect one second longer"

I'll go with Baldy over obvious every day bias, thanks. I'd recommend quoting the proper post next time but my bad.

It's called feeling the pass rush, stepping up in the pocket, keeping your eyes downfield, and finding your receiver.

if Jimmy could do this, then the Niners would've had #6 by now regardless of its Oline play.

Jimmy actually gotten worse this past year. No way he's the starter nor even on the team going forward

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Jimmy actually gotten worse this past year. No way he's the starter nor even on the team going forward

Let's hope not

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
"If you can protect one second longer"

I'll go with Baldy over obvious every day bias, thanks. I'd recommend quoting the proper post next time but my bad.

yeah a TE on a DE in space is an advantage for SF lol. How about you use some common sense? there's literally 5 yards of space in front of him and the TE has him blocked from the inside. The only way the DE wins there is on the outside rush, Jimmy basically has to stand there and wait for the TE to lose contain for him to have a shot to hit him...which is exactly what he does.

It's a reason why guys like Brady and Brees were so good as pure pocket passers, they had anticipation and feel within the pocket. Jimmy should have seen the safety flat footed and he KNOWS Aiyuk's route...so why the hell is he waiting to throw the ball? Throw with some damn anticipation. He doesn't have the ability to make throws out of structure, nor does he have the arm talent to wait on a throw like that...so throw with anticipation. At the very least move UP where there isn't a player within 5 yards of him. It's not rocket science and there's no good reason to defend Jimmy on this play. He moves up and it's not a holding on the TE either. He throws with anticipation it's not a holding on the TE either. He messed it up plain and simple. There are other plays worth defending, this ain't one.

My comment should have explained what video I was talking about, but yes I will be more precise going forward.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
"If you can protect one second longer"

I'll go with Baldy over obvious every day bias, thanks. I'd recommend quoting the proper post next time but my bad.

yeah a TE on a DE in space is an advantage for SF lol. How about you use some common sense? there's literally 5 yards of space in front of him and the TE has him blocked from the inside. The only way the DE wins there is on the outside rush, Jimmy basically has to stand there and wait for the TE to lose contain for him to have a shot to hit him...which is exactly what he does.

It's a reason why guys like Brady and Brees were so good as pure pocket passers, they had anticipation and feel within the pocket. Jimmy should have seen the safety flat footed and he KNOWS Aiyuk's route...so why the hell is he waiting to throw the ball? Throw with some damn anticipation. He doesn't have the ability to make throws out of structure, nor does he have the arm talent to wait on a throw like that...so throw with anticipation. At the very least move UP where there isn't a player within 5 yards of him. It's not rocket science and there's no good reason to defend Jimmy on this play. He moves up and it's not a holding on the TE either. He throws with anticipation it's not a holding on the TE either. He messed it up plain and simple. There are other plays worth defending, this ain't one.

My comment should have explained what video I was talking about, but yes I will be more precise going forward.

Ok... sure. Now do positive plays Jimmy does please.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
"If you can protect one second longer"

I'll go with Baldy over obvious every day bias, thanks. I'd recommend quoting the proper post next time but my bad.

yeah a TE on a DE in space is an advantage for SF lol. How about you use some common sense? there's literally 5 yards of space in front of him and the TE has him blocked from the inside. The only way the DE wins there is on the outside rush, Jimmy basically has to stand there and wait for the TE to lose contain for him to have a shot to hit him...which is exactly what he does.

It's a reason why guys like Brady and Brees were so good as pure pocket passers, they had anticipation and feel within the pocket. Jimmy should have seen the safety flat footed and he KNOWS Aiyuk's route...so why the hell is he waiting to throw the ball? Throw with some damn anticipation. He doesn't have the ability to make throws out of structure, nor does he have the arm talent to wait on a throw like that...so throw with anticipation. At the very least move UP where there isn't a player within 5 yards of him. It's not rocket science and there's no good reason to defend Jimmy on this play. He moves up and it's not a holding on the TE either. He throws with anticipation it's not a holding on the TE either. He messed it up plain and simple. There are other plays worth defending, this ain't one.

My comment should have explained what video I was talking about, but yes I will be more precise going forward.

man look at some of these absolute fantastic passes.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Matt Ryan took unneeded sacks, failing to throw the ball away when a play was dead (poor execution). LT get's called for holding, Freeman fails to pickup a blitz etc... here you are talking about him not giving the ball to Mosert and in the same breath wanting him to take the ball out of the MVP of the league's hands in the SB? Explain what play calls were just flat out bad play calls? I'm not talking about run vs pass either. Ryan much like Jimmy audibled out of run plays and guys simply couldn't block in certain positions when they did run. You do realize there's a defense that makes changes all the same too, right? As far as Jimmy goes....dude has been a disaster in the playoffs overall and even worse in the 4th QR.

So you're telling me Kyle should have benched Jimmy in the playoffs for rookie QB who outside of a two random games, got next to nothing in meaningful snaps for 7+ months? OH and didn't play football the year prior because of covid? LOL yeah okay. Only pattern I'm seeing his your distain for our HC. No one is saying he can't improve...every HC can. s**t Tomlin and Harbs haven't won a SB in over a decade (with better QBs). Bill hasn't won a playoff game without Brady. Andy Reid went to one SB prior to Mahomes in 20 years! Yet here we are complaining about Kyle

So, that's three crucial games without a single point in the 4tb quarter of either of those and none of that Is on Kyle?. That's funny. As for comparing the Mostert situation with Ryan, I don't think that's even close to be the same? Mostert ( our most explosive player ) shared touches all game with an average RB ( Coleman ) all because Kyle gets a stiffy for certain guys. The Ryan's situation was completely different, everyone and their momma knows that the falcons should be running the ball.. don't blame the players for that nonsense.

I'm also aware that defenses make changes, the same way offenses make adjustments ( Kyle failed ) how does someone fail to score a point when it mattered most when you have, Jones, White, Ryan's, ect? .. let's stop being so defensive over any criticism of Kyle... You starting to sound like those Jimmy fans. As I've stated many times in the past... Kyle and Lynch deserve all the praise in the world for making us competitive again, buy they also deserve blame for costing the opportunity of winning at least one super bowl.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Did you watch that game? That was, from what I could tell, the fault of the offensive line. A key penalty and a key sack.

Yes I did... I Saw a coach who decided to pass when he should have ran the ball.

I have seen this routine many times on these boards. If Shanahan calls a run play that goes nowhere. HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED A PASS PLAY. If Shanahan calls a pass play and it goes nowhere. HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED A RUN PLAY.
That idiot Shanahan should have called those armchair HC's and asked them what he should of called in those situations.

The bottom line is if an O lineman misses a block on a run play that is out of his control. If there are WR open all over the field and the QB doesn't see them/pull the trigger, it is out of his control.

Man this is a throw only a few make. Can't do video right now but it was great

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Matt Ryan took unneeded sacks, failing to throw the ball away when a play was dead (poor execution). LT get's called for holding, Freeman fails to pickup a blitz etc... here you are talking about him not giving the ball to Mosert and in the same breath wanting him to take the ball out of the MVP of the league's hands in the SB? Explain what play calls were just flat out bad play calls? I'm not talking about run vs pass either. Ryan much like Jimmy audibled out of run plays and guys simply couldn't block in certain positions when they did run. You do realize there's a defense that makes changes all the same too, right? As far as Jimmy goes....dude has been a disaster in the playoffs overall and even worse in the 4th QR.

So you're telling me Kyle should have benched Jimmy in the playoffs for rookie QB who outside of a two random games, got next to nothing in meaningful snaps for 7+ months? OH and didn't play football the year prior because of covid? LOL yeah okay. Only pattern I'm seeing his your distain for our HC. No one is saying he can't improve...every HC can. s**t Tomlin and Harbs haven't won a SB in over a decade (with better QBs). Bill hasn't won a playoff game without Brady. Andy Reid went to one SB prior to Mahomes in 20 years! Yet here we are complaining about Kyle

So, that's three crucial games without a single point in the 4tb quarter of either of those and none of that Is on Kyle?. That's funny. As for comparing the Mostert situation with Ryan, I don't think that's even close to be the same? Mostert ( our most explosive player ) shared touches all game with an average RB ( Coleman ) all because Kyle gets a stiffy for certain guys. The Ryan's situation was completely different, everyone and their momma knows that the falcons should be running the ball.. don't blame the players for that nonsense.

I'm also aware that defenses make changes, the same way offenses make adjustments ( Kyle failed ) how does someone fail to score a point when it mattered most when you have, Jones, White, Ryan's, ect? .. let's stop being so defensive over any criticism of Kyle... You starting to sound like those Jimmy fans. As I've stated many times in the past... Kyle and Lynch deserve all the praise in the world for making us competitive again, buy they also deserve blame for costing the opportunity of winning at least one super bowl.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Did you watch that game? That was, from what I could tell, the fault of the offensive line. A key penalty and a key sack.

Yes I did... I Saw a coach who decided to pass when he should have ran the ball.

I have seen this routine many times on these boards. If Shanahan calls a run play that goes nowhere. HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED A PASS PLAY. If Shanahan calls a pass play and it goes nowhere. HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED A RUN PLAY.
That idiot Shanahan should have called those armchair HC's and asked them what he should of called in those situations.

The bottom line is if an O lineman misses a block on a run play that is out of his control. If there are WR open all over the field and the QB doesn't see them/pull the trigger, it is out of his control.

thats why i can't take these guys seriously.. They just blurt out anything without any thought

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Man this is a throw only a few make. Can't do video right now but it was great

and this proves what..

all QBs can do that.. like you said