Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Man this is a throw only a few make. Can't do video right now but it was great

and this proves what..

all QBs can do that.. like you said

Ok show me QBs who made throws like this down 7 with 1:30 on the clock zero timeouts.

If all QBs can do it. Let's see

What throw am I seeing lol? show the film to have a real discussion. This is pointless.

24-17 with 1:24 left against the Rams.. I figured people would recognize this... My bad. Wait... I already provided the video. Pay attention please.



Wait... I already provided the video. Pay attention please.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Matt Ryan took unneeded sacks, failing to throw the ball away when a play was dead (poor execution). LT get's called for holding, Freeman fails to pickup a blitz etc... here you are talking about him not giving the ball to Mosert and in the same breath wanting him to take the ball out of the MVP of the league's hands in the SB? Explain what play calls were just flat out bad play calls? I'm not talking about run vs pass either. Ryan much like Jimmy audibled out of run plays and guys simply couldn't block in certain positions when they did run. You do realize there's a defense that makes changes all the same too, right? As far as Jimmy goes....dude has been a disaster in the playoffs overall and even worse in the 4th QR.

So you're telling me Kyle should have benched Jimmy in the playoffs for rookie QB who outside of a two random games, got next to nothing in meaningful snaps for 7+ months? OH and didn't play football the year prior because of covid? LOL yeah okay. Only pattern I'm seeing his your distain for our HC. No one is saying he can't improve...every HC can. s**t Tomlin and Harbs haven't won a SB in over a decade (with better QBs). Bill hasn't won a playoff game without Brady. Andy Reid went to one SB prior to Mahomes in 20 years! Yet here we are complaining about Kyle

So, that's three crucial games without a single point in the 4tb quarter of either of those and none of that Is on Kyle?. That's funny. As for comparing the Mostert situation with Ryan, I don't think that's even close to be the same? Mostert ( our most explosive player ) shared touches all game with an average RB ( Coleman ) all because Kyle gets a stiffy for certain guys. The Ryan's situation was completely different, everyone and their momma knows that the falcons should be running the ball.. don't blame the players for that nonsense.

I'm also aware that defenses make changes, the same way offenses make adjustments ( Kyle failed ) how does someone fail to score a point when it mattered most when you have, Jones, White, Ryan's, ect? .. let's stop being so defensive over any criticism of Kyle... You starting to sound like those Jimmy fans. As I've stated many times in the past... Kyle and Lynch deserve all the praise in the world for making us competitive again, buy they also deserve blame for costing the opportunity of winning at least one super bowl.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Did you watch that game? That was, from what I could tell, the fault of the offensive line. A key penalty and a key sack.

Yes I did... I Saw a coach who decided to pass when he should have ran the ball.

I have seen this routine many times on these boards. If Shanahan calls a run play that goes nowhere. HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED A PASS PLAY. If Shanahan calls a pass play and it goes nowhere. HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED A RUN PLAY.
That idiot Shanahan should have called those armchair HC's and asked them what he should of called in those situations.

The bottom line is if an O lineman misses a block on a run play that is out of his control. If there are WR open all over the field and the QB doesn't see them/pull the trigger, it is out of his control.

thats why i can't take these guys seriously.. They just blurt out anything without any thought

You mean some can't handle any criticism when It comes to Kyle... Kinda like how Jimmy fans kept defending him ( especially you ) for his 2019 performance when most knew he was carried by the run game and defense

This is a perfect example ^^

People who blame Kyle have no idea what they are talking about or they are just not watching the game (probably the later).

And yes, Jimmy in 2019 in his first full year was great. A 3rd down conversion god, he would answer every INT with a TD.. actually won some games when we needed him to. He left a lot to look forward to after his first full year coming off of knee surgery.

Do i feel the same about jimmy now, no. I am capable of actually seeing whats on the field and understanding the game

I'm not blaming Kyle for the losses... It's more about how his offense failed to score a single point in each of those games when It came to the 4th quarter. There's nothing wrong In saying that.... I'm not against Kyle.... I'm more than happy he's our head coach and hoping he brings home that 6th Lombardi with Lance.

Kyle can only call the plays which he does get guys open.. up to the players to execute and if they don't, it makes the next play even harder in those crunch time moments

There's more than one way to skin a cat. If a particular QB Is struggling that bad to make simple plays, then surely you have not option but to substitute him? And if we're concerned with bringing In Lance because lack of experience, then they should have done more to bring in a decent vet?. You can't keep repeating the same thing and expecting different results.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Man this is a throw only a few make. Can't do video right now but it was great

and this proves what..

all QBs can do that.. like you said

Ok show me QBs who made throws like this down 7 with 1:30 on the clock zero timeouts.

If all QBs can do it. Let's see

What throw am I seeing lol? show the film to have a real discussion. This is pointless.

24-17 with 1:24 left against the Rams.. I figured people would recognize this... My bad. Wait... I already provided the video. Pay attention please.



Wait... I already provided the video. Pay attention please.

An outlier performance for one quarter that was born out of desperation. He immediately reverted to his mediocre performances in the playoffs.

Thats not good enough to win a championship.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Depends on the situation but at least Run plays generally burn clock not to mention how it's been said that the running game is what made it to these championship games.

This. Everyone knows the Falcons should have ran the ball in that situation.. that shouldn't even be debatable.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Depends on the situation but at least Run plays generally burn clock not to mention how it's been said that the running game is what made it to these championship games.

This. Everyone knows the Falcons should have ran the ball in that situation.. that shouldn't even be debatable.

Falcons run plays in the 2nd half of the NE vs ATL SB

-3
+5
+9
-3
-1
+8
+1
+2
-1

9 run plays for a whopping 17 yards gained.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Falcons run plays in the 2nd half of the NE vs ATL SB

-3
+5
+9
-3
-1
+8
+1
+2
-1

9 run plays for a whopping 17 yards gained.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Depends on the situation but at least Run plays generally burn clock not to mention how it's been said that the running game is what made it to these championship games.

This. Everyone knows the Falcons should have ran the ball in that situation.. that shouldn't even be debatable.

Falcons run plays in the 2nd half of the NE vs ATL SB

-3
+5
+9
-3
-1
+8
+1
+2
-1

9 run plays for a whopping 17 yards gained.

hE sHoUld rAn bEtTer plays !!!!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Last time I checked, Matt Ryan was MVP? And yet the falcons failed to score a single point in the 4th quarter of their super bowl? Let me guess, not Kyle's fault? .. super bowl against Chiefs, out most explosive player ( Mostert ) carried the ball 10 times... Still not Kyle's fault? Poor performance from Jimmy all through the playoffs, yet Kyle stuck with him... Still not Kyle's fault?. I see a pattern here

Matt Ryan took unneeded sacks, failing to throw the ball away when a play was dead (poor execution). LT get's called for holding, Freeman fails to pickup a blitz etc... here you are talking about him not giving the ball to Mosert and in the same breath wanting him to take the ball out of the MVP of the league's hands in the SB? Explain what play calls were just flat out bad play calls? I'm not talking about run vs pass either. Ryan much like Jimmy audibled out of run plays and guys simply couldn't block in certain positions when they did run. You do realize there's a defense that makes changes all the same too, right? As far as Jimmy goes....dude has been a disaster in the playoffs overall and even worse in the 4th QR.

So you're telling me Kyle should have benched Jimmy in the playoffs for rookie QB who outside of a two random games, got next to nothing in meaningful snaps for 7+ months? OH and didn't play football the year prior because of covid? LOL yeah okay. Only pattern I'm seeing his your distain for our HC. No one is saying he can't improve...every HC can. s**t Tomlin and Harbs haven't won a SB in over a decade (with better QBs). Bill hasn't won a playoff game without Brady. Andy Reid went to one SB prior to Mahomes in 20 years! Yet here we are complaining about Kyle

So, that's three crucial games without a single point in the 4tb quarter of either of those and none of that Is on Kyle?. That's funny. As for comparing the Mostert situation with Ryan, I don't think that's even close to be the same? Mostert ( our most explosive player ) shared touches all game with an average RB ( Coleman ) all because Kyle gets a stiffy for certain guys. The Ryan's situation was completely different, everyone and their momma knows that the falcons should be running the ball.. don't blame the players for that nonsense.

I'm also aware that defenses make changes, the same way offenses make adjustments ( Kyle failed ) how does someone fail to score a point when it mattered most when you have, Jones, White, Ryan's, ect? .. let's stop being so defensive over any criticism of Kyle... You starting to sound like those Jimmy fans. As I've stated many times in the past... Kyle and Lynch deserve all the praise in the world for making us competitive again, buy they also deserve blame for costing the opportunity of winning at least one super bowl.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Did you watch that game? That was, from what I could tell, the fault of the offensive line. A key penalty and a key sack.

Yes I did... I Saw a coach who decided to pass when he should have ran the ball.

I have seen this routine many times on these boards. If Shanahan calls a run play that goes nowhere. HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED A PASS PLAY. If Shanahan calls a pass play and it goes nowhere. HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED A RUN PLAY.
That idiot Shanahan should have called those armchair HC's and asked them what he should of called in those situations.

The bottom line is if an O lineman misses a block on a run play that is out of his control. If there are WR open all over the field and the QB doesn't see them/pull the trigger, it is out of his control.

thats why i can't take these guys seriously.. They just blurt out anything without any thought

You mean some can't handle any criticism when It comes to Kyle... Kinda like how Jimmy fans kept defending him ( especially you ) for his 2019 performance when most knew he was carried by the run game and defense

This is a perfect example ^^

People who blame Kyle have no idea what they are talking about or they are just not watching the game (probably the later).

And yes, Jimmy in 2019 in his first full year was great. A 3rd down conversion god, he would answer every INT with a TD.. actually won some games when we needed him to. He left a lot to look forward to after his first full year coming off of knee surgery.

Do i feel the same about jimmy now, no. I am capable of actually seeing whats on the field and understanding the game

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
24-17 with 1:24 left against the Rams.. I figured a fan would recognize this... My bad.



Wait... I already provided the video. Pay attention please.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Depends on the situation but at least Run plays generally burn clock not to mention how it's been said that the running game is what made it to these championship games.

This. Everyone knows the Falcons should have ran the ball in that situation.. that shouldn't even be debatable.

Falcons run plays in the 2nd half of the NE vs ATL SB

-3
+5
+9
-3
-1
+8
+1
+2
-1

9 run plays for a whopping 17 yards gained.

hE sHoUld rAn bEtTer plays !!!!

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
So they averaged around 1.8 ypc in the 2nd half. That would have been perfect for the situation.

Run the ball 3 times, gain roughly 5 yds and kick the FG.

Kyle would more than likely have a ring right now if he ran the ball in that situation.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Depends on the situation but at least Run plays generally burn clock not to mention how it's been said that the running game is what made it to these championship games.

This. Everyone knows the Falcons should have ran the ball in that situation.. that shouldn't even be debatable.

Falcons run plays in the 2nd half of the NE vs ATL SB

-3
+5
+9
-3
-1
+8
+1
+2
-1

9 run plays for a whopping 17 yards gained.

hE sHoUld rAn bEtTer plays !!!!

4 mins remaining. 2nd and 11th on the pats 23 yard line... You run the ball... Kyle choked when it mattered most..

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
So they averaged around 1.8 ypc in the 2nd half. That would have been perfect for the situation.

Run the ball 3 times, gain roughly 5 yds and kick the FG.

Kyle would more than likely have a ring right now if he ran the ball in that situation.

This... You don't pass the ball in those situations... I can't believe some are still defending his decision to pass

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
24-17 with 1:24 left against the Rams.. I figured a fan would recognize this... My bad.



Wait... I already provided the video. Pay attention please.

What a dumb comment. You toss youtube clip of a full game and then post a screenshot of one pass acting like everyone knows what you're talking about lol

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Depends on the situation but at least Run plays generally burn clock not to mention how it's been said that the running game is what made it to these championship games.

This. Everyone knows the Falcons should have ran the ball in that situation.. that shouldn't even be debatable.

Falcons run plays in the 2nd half of the NE vs ATL SB

-3
+5
+9
-3
-1
+8
+1
+2
-1

9 run plays for a whopping 17 yards gained.

hE sHoUld rAn bEtTer plays !!!!

4 mins remaining. 2nd and 11th on the pats 23 yard line... You run the ball... Kyle choked when it mattered most..

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
So they averaged around 1.8 ypc in the 2nd half. That would have been perfect for the situation.

Run the ball 3 times, gain roughly 5 yds and kick the FG.

Kyle would more than likely have a ring right now if he ran the ball in that situation.

This... You don't pass the ball in those situations... I can't believe some are still defending his decision to pass

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Depends on the situation but at least Run plays generally burn clock not to mention how it's been said that the running game is what made it to these championship games.

This. Everyone knows the Falcons should have ran the ball in that situation.. that shouldn't even be debatable.

Falcons run plays in the 2nd half of the NE vs ATL SB

-3
+5
+9
-3
-1
+8
+1
+2
-1

9 run plays for a whopping 17 yards gained.

hE sHoUld rAn bEtTer plays !!!!

4 mins remaining. 2nd and 11th on the pats 23 yard line... You run the ball... Kyle choked when it mattered most..

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
So they averaged around 1.8 ypc in the 2nd half. That would have been perfect for the situation.

Run the ball 3 times, gain roughly 5 yds and kick the FG.

Kyle would more than likely have a ring right now if he ran the ball in that situation.

This... You don't pass the ball in those situations... I can't believe some are still defending his decision to pass

NY85 brought up that there is video proof of Matt Ryan audibling out of run plays and into pass plays. I wonder if that happened there or not?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How about the 500 yards of offense they gave up? Where's the HC in all of this? I've never seen a head coach take less blame for a loss then quinn