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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by YACBros85:If the Browns want to give us a 3rd for Jimmy instead of waiting 3 weeks for him to be cut, I am all for it.
I'd be happy with a money round 5th. Salvaging anything at this point would be turning a frown upside down.
Originally posted by Garce:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If the Browns want to give us a 3rd for Jimmy instead of waiting 3 weeks for him to be cut, I am all for it.
I'd be happy with a money round 5th. Salvaging anything at this point would be turning a frown upside down.
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by swaccmac1:
the browns paid 10 million of baker mayfield's salary for a 4th or 5th round pick. i don't know why niner fans think we have to beat the sh# out of every team in a trade. this trade works for everyone ... give a litlle to get a little ...capice
Baker's money was GTD. Jimmy's is not....it's not even close to the same situation.
Jimmy knows he will not see that 26 million and so does his agent. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that.
Because it is still a factor in making a trade. Either the team trading for him will have to pay it (unlikely), or the team trading for him and Jimmy's camp will have to work out a new contract prior to making the trade.
So while Jimmy is most likely not going to make the $25M or whatever it is next season, for people to continue to say it doesnt matter at all is not accurate at all. Its absolutely a hurdle that will need to be overcome.
It is not a significant hurdle in anyway. Sign and trade is not exactly unheard of in the NFL. The team tells Jimmy agent, if he wants to come here, we offer "x" on a new contract . He can say no or yes, with a no, no trade happens.Then he is cut and has no more real leverage than he did originally, There would have to be multiple teams trying to sign him for him to have any kind of leverage. The $25M doesn't figure into any of the real options he will encounter.
So what you are saying is, it IS a factor....which is really all I was saying.
The reason it is a factor is because if Jimmy had a, lets say a 1 year $12M non guaranteed contract, it would be much easier for Browns to simply say "ok send SF a pick and guarantee Jimmy the $12M." Because that number is $25M, they will have to work something out. And because they have to work that out, its not hard to believe that either Jimmy or the Browns would not agree with the other side.
Then there is also the idea that maybe the Browns would be willing to give Jimmy a few million more dollars for 2022 if they could just sign him as a free agent and not send us back a pick in return. Who knows at this point.
All I am saying is that the fact that Jimmy has a $25M non guaranteed contract for 2022 means that a few things will have to be ironed out to make a trade. It may not be difficult, but there are things that will need to be worked out.
Originally posted by Silky:anyway we can banish him to the NetherRealm until he is summoned by a demonic passage 160 years from now by a child who found the hidden scripture?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If the Browns want to give us a 3rd for Jimmy instead of waiting 3 weeks for him to be cut, I am all for it.
I'd be happy with a money round 5th. Salvaging anything at this point would be turning a frown upside down.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If the Browns want to give us a 3rd for Jimmy instead of waiting 3 weeks for him to be cut, I am all for it.
I'd be happy with a money round 5th. Salvaging anything at this point would be turning a frown upside down.
Sure. I would be happy with anything at this point. I just don't see that much of an advantage for the Browns to trade when they could just sit a few weeks and pick him up in FA, while also enticing Jimmy with a better offer, like SWH said. The Browns gave up a lot of draft capital for DW. I don't think its in their best interest to give up any more of their draft picks, especially for what they hope is only a 1 year rental.
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Bro just give him to the Browns
Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Bro just give him to the Browns
Trade him for Kareem and let's move on.
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Bro just give him to the Browns
Trade him for Kareem and let's move on.
Would love to add him to the RB stable for this year.
Originally posted by 9erguy:
Bro just give him to the Browns
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by swaccmac1:
the browns paid 10 million of baker mayfield's salary for a 4th or 5th round pick. i don't know why niner fans think we have to beat the sh# out of every team in a trade. this trade works for everyone ... give a litlle to get a little ...capice
Baker's money was GTD. Jimmy's is not....it's not even close to the same situation.
Jimmy knows he will not see that 26 million and so does his agent. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that.
Because it is still a factor in making a trade. Either the team trading for him will have to pay it (unlikely), or the team trading for him and Jimmy's camp will have to work out a new contract prior to making the trade.
So while Jimmy is most likely not going to make the $25M or whatever it is next season, for people to continue to say it doesnt matter at all is not accurate at all. Its absolutely a hurdle that will need to be overcome.
It is not a significant hurdle in anyway. Sign and trade is not exactly unheard of in the NFL. The team tells Jimmy agent, if he wants to come here, we offer "x" on a new contract . He can say no or yes, with a no, no trade happens.Then he is cut and has no more real leverage than he did originally, There would have to be multiple teams trying to sign him for him to have any kind of leverage. The $25M doesn't figure into any of the real options he will encounter.
So what you are saying is, it IS a factor....which is really all I was saying.
The reason it is a factor is because if Jimmy had a, lets say a 1 year $12M non guaranteed contract, it would be much easier for Browns to simply say "ok send SF a pick and guarantee Jimmy the $12M." Because that number is $25M, they will have to work something out. And because they have to work that out, its not hard to believe that either Jimmy or the Browns would not agree with the other side.
Then there is also the idea that maybe the Browns would be willing to give Jimmy a few million more dollars for 2022 if they could just sign him as a free agent and not send us back a pick in return. Who knows at this point.
All I am saying is that the fact that Jimmy has a $25M non guaranteed contract for 2022 means that a few things will have to be ironed out to make a trade. It may not be difficult, but there are things that will need to be worked out.
Tell us you are saying the same thing we said. Without telling us you are saying the same thing. Haha
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If the Browns want to give us a 3rd for Jimmy instead of waiting 3 weeks for him to be cut, I am all for it.
I'd be happy with a money round 5th. Salvaging anything at this point would be turning a frown upside down.
Sure. I would be happy with anything at this point. I just don't see that much of an advantage for the Browns to trade when they could just sit a few weeks and pick him up in FA, while also enticing Jimmy with a better offer, like SWH said. The Browns gave up a lot of draft capital for DW. I don't think its in their best interest to give up any more of their draft picks, especially for what they hope is only a 1 year rental.