Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Giedi:
Yup, or cut. I can't belive I'm posting that. But the reality is nobody is going to pay 25+ million for a backup QB.

Now, what I'd like to happen is Purdy beats out Sudfeld, and we can trade him for a day 3 pick (maybe a fifth rounder 👀).👅

i just think we need to hold onto all three guys

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I'm a big Jimmy guy, but not a fan to hear how he disappeared from the team at times. I get we all need alone time, but should've used some of the time developing chemistry with his teammates

why,,,, they are no longer his team mates. nothing good comes out of him being visible at practice or in a box or on the sidelines or anywhere around niner land in my opinion

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by rxrunner:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Strange because I heard QB's don't get hurt running the ball.

Who said this?

All of the Jimmy haters lol.

Haven't seen one of those posts yet. Care to share?. I'm sure it has nothing to do with your terrible reading comprehension or how you take everything to the extreme, no matter that the topic is.

Jimmy has gotten hurt running and playing in the pocket

I haven't seen a single post where someone said a running QB can't get hurt.

dude Fur's post are funny, he gets so upset when anyone says something negative about Jimmy and yet all he does is post negative s**t about Lance. Like what are we doing here? Hypocrite

150 IQ lol

well didnt get we get bosa because jimmy got hurt?

Yes, whats that have to do with the conversation?

What's the point here when two of Jimmy's biggest career injuries happened when he left the pocket and started running and thinking he was Shady McCoy.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I'm a big Jimmy guy, but not a fan to hear how he disappeared from the team at times. I get we all need alone time, but should've used some of the time developing chemistry with his teammates

By all accounts he was very popular and well liked among his teammates, any number of whom have come to his defense for various reasons over the last year and a half. How is that an indication that he didn't "develop chemistry" with them? One of the big talking points in here has been how the team shouldn't keep Jimmy around specifically because he is so popular with his teammates that it might cause an issue in the locker room.

Now I don't know how much truth there is to the recent reporting on this, especially considering the source, I think Mike Silver is one of the worst reporters there is covering the NFL, but George Kittle has also said that Jimmy isn't much for keeping in touch during the off season, so who knows. Either way the point is moot at this stage. They moved on and seem to be happy with the new direction.

My only complaint is that if it was their intention to release him anyway at the cut down date they could have just as easily done it after he passed his physical so that he would have had a better opportunity to sign a deal somewhere else. I think he's earned that much. What they are doing now is kind of disrespectful. I'm surprised they're not asking him to pick up towels in the locker room.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I'm a big Jimmy guy, but not a fan to hear how he disappeared from the team at times. I get we all need alone time, but should've used some of the time developing chemistry with his teammates

why,,,, they are no longer his team mates. nothing good comes out of him being visible at practice or in a box or on the sidelines or anywhere around niner land in my opinion

I'd just as soon he be gone. He's still got a $20m plus differential incentive to throw too hard and reinjure his shoulder. If it happens while on our field and therefore under the supervision of the team, we give up a year of the benefit of Lance's rookie deal. If it happens on his own, perhaps we can escape.

Sure, it probably won't happen, but the risk/reward benefit for a very late round draft pick, which probably won't even happen also, is just not worth the gamble.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Strange because I heard QB's don't get hurt running the ball.

Who said this?

All of the Jimmy haters lol.

Haven't seen one of those posts yet. Care to share?. I'm sure it has nothing to do with your terrible reading comprehension or how you take everything to the extreme, no matter that the topic is.

You're joking, right? Give me a break.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Strange because I heard QB's don't get hurt running the ball.

Who said this?

All of the Jimmy haters lol.

Haven't seen one of those posts yet. Care to share?. I'm sure it has nothing to do with your terrible reading comprehension or how you take everything to the extreme, no matter that the topic is.

Jimmy has gotten hurt running and playing in the pocket

I haven't seen a single post where someone said a running QB can't get hurt.

dude Fur's post are funny, he gets so upset when anyone says something negative about Jimmy and yet all he does is post negative s**t about Lance. Like what are we doing here? Hypocrite

I didn't say that anyone said that running QB's can't get hurt. Talk about reading comprehension. Nor did I say that pocket passers don't get hurt. All players get injured, duh. The argument that the Jimmy haters (turned Trey apologists) make is that QB's who run don't get hurt because of their running. That is makes NO difference compared to pocket passers - and many of the arguments go even further to state that running QB's get hurt even less. Which is of course absurd. Any player who runs the ball and gets tackled is going to get hurt more often than a player who doesn't, it's pretty simple. Having a mobile QB is great, and obviously Trey has that over Jimmy. But if Shanny is going to have Trey running the ball 10-15 times a game like he did last year, to mask his inability to pass, then his career is going to be very short. Hopefully we continue to see more of what we saw from Trey against the Packers.

Edit: I have plenty of positive to say about Trey. I don't even blame him for his wobbly passes, that's on whoever is tinkering with his mechanics. And talk about getting upset, bro you get so triggered by anything related to Jimmy. You and a few others can't even help yourselves and bring him up in almost every thread, even other Niners players (especially Trey).

LET. IT. GO.

meh

QBs can get hurt just turning to hand off the ball. I've seen it happen. Players can get their cleats caught in the turf and POP goes the knee or ankle. How many times have you seen QBs injure their thumb while passing when their hand hits a pass rusher's helmet. Happens all the time. That probably happens way more than any QB getting a serious knee injury when he scrambles.

The point is they can and do get hurt on any type of play.

Nevermind. SMFH

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jcool:

I'm told #Jets QB Zach Wilson suffered a bone bruise injury and a meniscus tear that needs a 'trim' in the team's 1st preseason game vs the #Eagles last night. Initial prognosis is 2-4 weeks. As of now team feeling like they 'dodged a bullet,' per league source.

— JosinaAnderson (@JosinaAnderson) August 13, 2022

Torn meniscus is 2 to 4 weeks? I don't think so! James Wiseman taught me that this was a 16 month injury.

If it's a meniscus trim, and not a repair then a month seems right…they won't know totally until the surgery. Repair is season ending

I was just messing around because a torn meniscus, surgery or not, shouldn't take 16 months like it did first JW.

Repair COULD be season ending or it could be much shorter. Meniscus repair and rehab could be as short as 2-3 months.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I'm a big Jimmy guy, but not a fan to hear how he disappeared from the team at times. I get we all need alone time, but should've used some of the time developing chemistry with his teammates

This reminds me of a narrative I've heard about David Carr in Houston. That Texans team was absolutely atrocious, but some of his teammates came out later and talked about how he viewed being quarterback as a 9 to 5 type deal. Not a sociable guy with teammates, didn't put in extra work. He was in when practice started, out as soon as it was over. I remember Carr talking years later about how he didn't realize how intensely the great QBs prepare/hone their craft until he got to backup Eli in NY.

Not saying JG doesn't work his craft, but the little things DO matter at the most important position. It's strange to hear all the bad words come out against Jimmy now, with former teammates in New England, and now someone who used to be on this coaching staff. I have no idea what's true and what's not, other than he was a decent starter for us, just not quite good enough to get over the hump, and the coaches no doubt did a great job hiding his weaknesses.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
QBs can get hurt just turning to hand off the ball. I've seen it happen. Players can get their cleats caught in the turf and POP goes the knee or ankle. How many times have you seen QBs injure their thumb while passing when their hand hits a pass rusher's helmet. Happens all the time. That probably happens way more than any QB getting a serious knee injury when he scrambles.

The point is they can and do get hurt on any type of play.

So you're okay with Trey running 12-15 times a game like last season, then? You don't see any greater potential for injury or his body wearing down if he does that?

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
QBs can get hurt just turning to hand off the ball. I've seen it happen. Players can get their cleats caught in the turf and POP goes the knee or ankle. How many times have you seen QBs injure their thumb while passing when their hand hits a pass rusher's helmet. Happens all the time. That probably happens way more than any QB getting a serious knee injury when he scrambles.

The point is they can and do get hurt on any type of play.

So you're okay with Trey running 12-15 times a game like last season, then? You don't see any greater potential for injury or his body wearing down if he does that?

Not really. What difference does it make whether it's a designed run or a scramble? He can get injured on either typer of play. In fact, he may be more likely to get injured on a scramble since the blocking wouldn't be the same. More chance that he would get hit from the side or from behind. He could also get injured in the pocket. That happens all the time. There just isn't any data that shows that running the ball increases a QBs chances of getting hurt.

I'm sure Kyle will want him to throw from the pocket as much as possible but what's the point of having a mobile QB and then not using that ability. If you aren't going to allow him to run occasionally then you aren't using all his tools. That ability keeps the defense on it's toes since they have to guard against it. I watched Steve Young for years and he never got hurt when running. It was always in the pocket when he got hammered by the pass rush.

I know whenever the Niners are facing a mobile QB it always presents problems.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jcool:

I'm told #Jets QB Zach Wilson suffered a bone bruise injury and a meniscus tear that needs a 'trim' in the team's 1st preseason game vs the #Eagles last night. Initial prognosis is 2-4 weeks. As of now team feeling like they 'dodged a bullet,' per league source.

— JosinaAnderson (@JosinaAnderson) August 13, 2022

Torn meniscus is 2 to 4 weeks? I don't think so! James Wiseman taught me that this was a 16 month injury.

If it's a meniscus trim, and not a repair then a month seems right…they won't know totally until the surgery. Repair is season ending

If they are being honest, and not obfuscating, NY is right. If there is a tiny ridge (tiny) extending over the rim of meniscus cartilage , and a tiny trim fixes it, Wilson is left with a functioning cartilage. If there is more damage than that, well, that's an entirely different story..BTW, MRIs are extremely useful in diagnosis, but the orthopedist doesn't know for sure until he takes a peek at it thru the arthroscope.

More serious diagnoses have been lessened immensely and less serious injuries have been diagnosed much worse than thot, once the orthopod actually views it thru the scope.