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Aug 18, 2022 at 11:20 AM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

JG is still better than either QB battling it out in SEA.

the point is you DONT do anything, no matter how insignificant, to help a division rival. just because you and others dont feel he's an upgrade there, doesnt make it true. look at Sando's QB tier list. he polled NFL HCs and executives. they ranked Jimmy 16th in the NFL. Drew Locke came in at 34 and Geno Smith at 35.
[ Edited by boast on Aug 18, 2022 at 11:21 AM ]
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

of course this is the truth...... suddenly we are fearful of him going to seattle.. who gives a rats ass... people who say that must have zero faith in our defense... of all teams in the nfl.. we know exactly what he can not do.... i hope he goes to seattle and i hope our defense brutalizes him

Da fuq lol? Why give a division rival any sort of advantage? JG is better than anyone they currently have and may have incite on any tendencies of this offense or even Lance. It typically takes 17 games on film for the league to figure out a QB, why speed that up just for them.

I get it, we are a superior team why be afraid of anyone blah blah blah. It's competition and gamesmanship, we were one inch and one game from going from homefield advantage to a wildcard in 2019. We were a miraculous comeback and one game away from not even making the playoffs last year. Keep any advantage you can and deny other teams that benefit... its not f*ckin rocket science when it comes to competitive sports lol.

jimmy give seattle no advantage over us.... wilson did.. but not jimmy.. the advantage we had last year vs the rams.. packers and cowboys.. was not jimmy.. it was deebo

The advantage would come from cutting him now and giving him and Seattle more time to practice together. How can anyone be this dense?

Right? Sometimes you have to wonder if some people ever played a sport at a high level of competition where every advantage no matter how small matters.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

But feelings is exactly what this is about. Because there is nothing logical about cutting Jimmy right now. Him going to Seattle (if that's what happens) now versus going to Seattle a few days before the season starts makes a huge difference. So keeping him is strategic, if only from that standpoint. And if another team's QB gets hurt, then that opens up another trade partner.

The only thing that cutting Jimmy now accomplishes is relieving his haters on the Webzone from the "torture" of having his thread in Niner Talk. I mean honestly how emotionally soft can you be?

Cutting now, I agree doesnt make logical sense. But when we get to the point where all options in terms of trades have been exhausted, then a cut is fine. And maybe we know by the end of the day that there isnt a single team that would trade for him. If that is the case, there is no need to drag this out any longer.

My opinion is cut him as soon as we know we arent making a trade. Whether thats next week, right at the deadline, or in 20 minutes doesnt matter to me.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Aug 18, 2022 at 11:25 AM ]
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:26 AM
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

JG is still better than either QB battling it out in SEA.

the point is you DONT do anything, no matter how insignificant, to help a division rival. just because you and others dont feel he's an upgrade there, doesnt make it true. look at Sando's QB tier list. he polled NFL HCs and executives. they ranked Jimmy 16th in the NFL. Drew Locke came in at 34 and Geno Smith at 35.

Boast, I am not sure you are aware of what you have just done. You will be eternally blasted for this post as a 'JG lover' .. which sounds like a potential pizza at Pizza Hut, should JG get a traded from Subway to that franchise.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:29 AM
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

But feelings is exactly what this is about. Because there is nothing logical about cutting Jimmy right now. Him going to Seattle (if that's what happens) now versus going to Seattle a few days before the season starts makes a huge difference. So keeping him is strategic, if only from that standpoint. And if another team's QB gets hurt, then that opens up another trade partner.

The only thing that cutting Jimmy now accomplishes is relieving his haters on the Webzone from the "torture" of having his thread in Niner Talk. I mean honestly how emotionally soft can you be?

Cutting now, I agree doesnt make logical sense. But when we get to the point where all options in terms of trades have been exhausted, then a cut is fine. And maybe we know by the end of the day that there isnt a single team that would trade for him. If that is the case, there is no need to drag this out any longer.

My opinion is cut him as soon as we know we arent making a trade. Whether thats next week, right at the deadline, or in 20 minutes doesnt matter to me.

As long as there are starting QB's going into preseason games, there is a chance of one going down with an injury. So why would we cut him before then? And even if you could guarantee that a) no QB's would get hurt and b) no other team was going to trade for him, why would we cut him now and allow him and Seattle to start practicing together?
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:29 AM
The question should be. What do the 49ers gain by releasing Jimmy today?
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:29 AM
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

JG is still better than either QB battling it out in SEA.

the point is you DONT do anything, no matter how insignificant, to help a division rival. just because you and others dont feel he's an upgrade there, doesnt make it true. look at Sando's QB tier list. he polled NFL HCs and executives. they ranked Jimmy 16th in the NFL. Drew Locke came in at 34 and Geno Smith at 35.

Unless you actually think that Jimmy could take the Seahawks to the Super Bowl then Idk why anyone would care?

Jimmy just flat out doesn't match up well against our defense (Warner in the middle) or the roster in Seattle. It's a round peg in a square hole that would lead to nothing other than a lower draft pick for Mr gum chewer.

All in all I think Jimmy would win more games in Seattle than what they currently have but I think we would fair better against them due to our familiarity with his play style.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:30 AM
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

JG is still better than either QB battling it out in SEA.

the point is you DONT do anything, no matter how insignificant, to help a division rival. just because you and others dont feel he's an upgrade there, doesnt make it true. look at Sando's QB tier list. he polled NFL HCs and executives. they ranked Jimmy 16th in the NFL. Drew Locke came in at 34 and Geno Smith at 35.

Boast, I am not sure you are aware of what you have just done. You will be eternally blasted for this post as a 'JG lover' .. which sounds like a potential pizza at Pizza Hut, should JG get a traded from Subway to that franchise.

Lol seriously. Saying Jimmy is better than Drew Locke and Geno Smith surely makes you a "Jimmy lover" according to the haters.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:31 AM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Apparently, at least according to some fans, it was all a part of this highly secretive poker game John Lynch had with the NFL world.

Everybody knew Jimmy G was injured and recovering from shoulder surgery to repair the injury, but sneaky John Lynch played it too close to the vest and lost, I guess.

Couldn't sneak it by other teams that Jimmy G would not have been able to pass a physical until he recovered and rehabilitated his shoulder. What a loser.

I have said this from the jump (and yes I realize its an opinion), but I believe the injury/surgery in and of itself was not the reason teams were apprehensive about trading for Jimmy.

Teams werent willing to trade for him because of his injury history and skillset, not this particular injury that every medical professional who commented on it agreed would be fully recovered from and/or even stronger post surgery. If Russell Wilson had this surgery in the offseason, you think teams wouldnt have been lining up to try to trade for him even with a shortened offseason due to rehab? Of course they would have.

So really, the issue is that Jimmy is unreliable and cant stay on the field...combined with his actual skillset. Teams werent willing to trade for him and take the chance that he can stay healthy. A 3 month injury where he was expected to be fully recovered from isnt the reason teams stayed away. Thats just an excuse IMO.

That's fair. Jimmy G does have a ridiculous injury history. I can see how that could scare teams away.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:32 AM
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

JG is still better than either QB battling it out in SEA.

the point is you DONT do anything, no matter how insignificant, to help a division rival. just because you and others dont feel he's an upgrade there, doesnt make it true. look at Sando's QB tier list. he polled NFL HCs and executives. they ranked Jimmy 16th in the NFL. Drew Locke came in at 34 and Geno Smith at 35.

Unless you actually think that Jimmy could take the Seahawks to the Super Bowl then Idk why anyone would care?

Jimmy just flat out doesn't match up well against our defense (Warner in the middle) or the roster in Seattle. It's a round peg in a square hole that would lead to nothing other than a lower draft pick for Mr gum chewer.

All in all I think Jimmy would win more games in Seattle than what they currently have but I think we would fair better against them due to our familiarity with his play style.

So Seattle not winning the Super Bowl is the only thing we care about? I mean SERIOUSLY??

We play the Seahawks in week 2. WEEK TWO. Should we let Jimmy go to Seattle and have that much extra time to prepare? Or would we be better off cutting him at the last possible minute, and giving him and Seattle that much less time to prepare? That one game could decide the division, you never know.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:33 AM
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Da fuq lol? Why give a division rival any sort of advantage? JG is better than anyone they currently have and may have incite on any tendencies of this offense or even Lance. It typically takes 17 games on film for the league to figure out a QB, why speed that up just for them.

I get it, we are a superior team why be afraid of anyone blah blah blah. It's competition and gamesmanship, we were one inch and one game from going from homefield advantage to a wildcard in 2019. We were a miraculous comeback and one game away from not even making the playoffs last year. Keep any advantage you can and deny other teams that benefit... its not f*ckin rocket science when it comes to competitive sports lol.

Someone made this point a few days ago, and I will repeat it. If teams signing their division rivals former players gave them a competitive advantage, why is this not standard practice? If signing your rivals players truly helped give them incite and knowledge on the team was actually a real thing, wouldnt this be standard practice in the NFL?

Since it is far from standard practice, logic tells us that this isnt an actual thing.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:33 AM
Originally posted by YACBros85:
The question should be. What do the 49ers gain by releasing Jimmy today?

Nothing. So the prospect of getting any compensation what-so-ever for him in the next two weeks, unlikely as it seems as we speak, still exists.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

But feelings is exactly what this is about. Because there is nothing logical about cutting Jimmy right now. Him going to Seattle (if that's what happens) now versus going to Seattle a few days before the season starts makes a huge difference. So keeping him is strategic, if only from that standpoint. And if another team's QB gets hurt, then that opens up another trade partner.

The only thing that cutting Jimmy now accomplishes is relieving his haters on the Webzone from the "torture" of having his thread in Niner Talk. I mean honestly how emotionally soft can you be?

Cutting now, I agree doesnt make logical sense. But when we get to the point where all options in terms of trades have been exhausted, then a cut is fine. And maybe we know by the end of the day that there isnt a single team that would trade for him. If that is the case, there is no need to drag this out any longer.

My opinion is cut him as soon as we know we arent making a trade. Whether thats next week, right at the deadline, or in 20 minutes doesnt matter to me.

As long as there are starting QB's going into preseason games, there is a chance of one going down with an injury. So why would we cut him before then? And even if you could guarantee that a) no QB's would get hurt and b) no other team was going to trade for him, why would we cut him now and allow him and Seattle to start practicing together?

I have said this many times in this thread and no one has really responded, but teams simply dont trade for QBs when their starter goes down. It doesnt happen. I asked if anyone can come up with more examples (no one has), but it has happened one time in my lifetime. And that was when the Vikings made a panic trade for Sam Bradford when Teddy Bridgewater went down.

QBs go down all the time, yet almost 100% of the time, teams roll with their backups instead. That is why I dont value the "just in case another QB goes down" line of thinking. Because even if a QB does go down, history shows us that teams will just roll with their backups.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

JG is still better than either QB battling it out in SEA.

the point is you DONT do anything, no matter how insignificant, to help a division rival. just because you and others dont feel he's an upgrade there, doesnt make it true. look at Sando's QB tier list. he polled NFL HCs and executives. they ranked Jimmy 16th in the NFL. Drew Locke came in at 34 and Geno Smith at 35.

Unless you actually think that Jimmy could take the Seahawks to the Super Bowl then Idk why anyone would care?

Jimmy just flat out doesn't match up well against our defense (Warner in the middle) or the roster in Seattle. It's a round peg in a square hole that would lead to nothing other than a lower draft pick for Mr gum chewer.

All in all I think Jimmy would win more games in Seattle than what they currently have but I think we would fair better against them due to our familiarity with his play style.

I think we can all agree he's getting cut on the 53 cut down. Most likely no trade will formulate unless a significant injury happens, even if it's a slim to none chance. But it would be idiotic by this FO not to hold him till the 53 cut down if that chance ever forms. It's not like they are missing out on some other player, that player will still make the roster while JG packs up his locker.

These same posters would start sh*tting on Lynch for letting him go early if let's say a guy like Zack Wilson has complications from surgery and has to have another one. There is no downside to keeping him... he's not stealing reps in practice, he wont take another players spot, there is literally zero point in cutting him before the 53.
Aug 18, 2022 at 11:39 AM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I have said this many times in this thread and no one has really responded, but teams simply dont trade for QBs when their starter goes down. It doesnt happen. I asked if anyone can come up with more examples (no one has), but it has happened one time in my lifetime. And that was when the Vikings made a panic trade for Sam Bradford when Teddy Bridgewater went down.

QBs go down all the time, yet almost 100% of the time, teams roll with their backups instead. That is why I dont value the "just in case another QB goes down" line of thinking. Because even if a QB does go down, history shows us that teams will just roll with their backups.

But why give up that slim to none opportunity when it literally has no effect on the current team. Even if it's a 1% chance, there is nothing lost holding on to that chance... it would be dumb not to.
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