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Originally posted by YACBros85:
The question should be. What do the 49ers gain by releasing Jimmy today?

Forum posters get to brag for a week or so
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

JG is still better than either QB battling it out in SEA.

the point is you DONT do anything, no matter how insignificant, to help a division rival. just because you and others dont feel he's an upgrade there, doesnt make it true. look at Sando's QB tier list. he polled NFL HCs and executives. they ranked Jimmy 16th in the NFL. Drew Locke came in at 34 and Geno Smith at 35.

Unless you actually think that Jimmy could take the Seahawks to the Super Bowl then Idk why anyone would care?

Jimmy just flat out doesn't match up well against our defense (Warner in the middle) or the roster in Seattle. It's a round peg in a square hole that would lead to nothing other than a lower draft pick for Mr gum chewer.

All in all I think Jimmy would win more games in Seattle than what they currently have but I think we would fair better against them due to our familiarity with his play style.

So Seattle not winning the Super Bowl is the only thing we care about? I mean SERIOUSLY??

We play the Seahawks in week 2. WEEK TWO. Should we let Jimmy go to Seattle and have that much extra time to prepare? Or would we be better off cutting him at the last possible minute, and giving him and Seattle that much less time to prepare? That one game could decide the division, you never know.

You love to put words in other people's mouths to form your arguments. It's extremely annoying.

I never said they should cut Jimmy right now or trade him to Seattle.

I'm saying anyone who thinks Jimmy might be a threat to us this season playing for the Seahawks is greatly overreacting to his overall impact and the hurdles he would have to go through to even learn their offense in time.

I mean… wouldn't you like to start against a QB week 2 that your defense practiced against for years, picked off 5 times in one practice, and has only had a couple weeks to learn the playbook?
[ Edited by Waterbear on Aug 18, 2022 at 11:43 AM ]
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
The question should be. What do the 49ers gain by releasing Jimmy today?

Forum posters get to brag for a week or so

Yup this is what you do when the starting QB for the past 5 yrs gets cut with us receiving zero comp. You brag. Hang up a mission accomplished banner if you can find one.
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
The question should be. What do the 49ers gain by releasing Jimmy today?

Nothing. So the prospect of getting any compensation what-so-ever for him in the next two weeks, unlikely as it seems as we speak, still exists.

And signing with Seattle August 30th instead of August 19th only possibly helps us and doesn't hurt us at all.

There's no reason to release him now other than instant gratification for people on the internet.
This settlement between the NFL and Watson does advance the ball a good bit in terms of how this will impact JG. Had the league hard-balled a one-year suspension instead of a settlement, the result would be another appeal/lawsuit that would drag out, maybe until the season begins. Hence, it was in the best interest of all parties to settle.

The way it stands, we will know soon if Cleveland has any legit interest in Garoppolo, or do they stand pat with Brissett? IMO, to stay with Brissett will cost them a playoff berth in the loaded AFC. However, this is the Browns we are talking about so anything is possible.

So, if Cleveland goes with Brissett, we will have to sit and hope for an injury, or horrible performance by another team's QB, that creates a perceived need that does not exist now. In the meantime, there is no reason at all to cut JG prior to the season starting. The money will be the same, JG isn't taking reps from anyone...
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Da fuq lol? Why give a division rival any sort of advantage? JG is better than anyone they currently have and may have incite on any tendencies of this offense or even Lance. It typically takes 17 games on film for the league to figure out a QB, why speed that up just for them.

I get it, we are a superior team why be afraid of anyone blah blah blah. It's competition and gamesmanship, we were one inch and one game from going from homefield advantage to a wildcard in 2019. We were a miraculous comeback and one game away from not even making the playoffs last year. Keep any advantage you can and deny other teams that benefit... its not f*ckin rocket science when it comes to competitive sports lol.

Someone made this point a few days ago, and I will repeat it. If teams signing their division rivals former players gave them a competitive advantage, why is this not standard practice? If signing your rivals players truly helped give them incite and knowledge on the team was actually a real thing, wouldnt this be standard practice in the NFL?

Since it is far from standard practice, logic tells us that this isnt an actual thing.
it's not a standard practice as picking up players off the wire has to be part of the 53 (regular season), so you would need to cut a player to get that info which probably wouldn't be that much as the players getting cut are not starters..especially starting QBs with a lot more knowledge
Originally posted by Waterbear:
You love to put words in other people's mouths to form your arguments. It's extremely annoying.

I never said they should cut Jimmy right now or trade him to Seattle.

I'm saying anyone who thinks Jimmy might be a threat to us this season playing for the Seahawks is greatly overreacting to his overall impact and the hurdles he would have to go through to even learn their offense in time.

I mean… wouldn't you like to start against a QB week 2 that your defense practiced against for years, picked off 5 times in one practice, and has only had a couple weeks to learn the playbook?

I'd rather play against 2 QBs who were never good enough to hold down a starting job and lost out to other back ups.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
The question should be. What do the 49ers gain by releasing Jimmy today?

Nothing. So the prospect of getting any compensation what-so-ever for him in the next two weeks, unlikely as it seems as we speak, still exists.

And signing with Seattle August 30th instead of August 19th only possibly helps us and doesn't hurt us at all.

There's no reason to release him now other than instant gratification for people on the internet.

Exactly!
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Da fuq lol? Why give a division rival any sort of advantage? JG is better than anyone they currently have and may have incite on any tendencies of this offense or even Lance. It typically takes 17 games on film for the league to figure out a QB, why speed that up just for them.

I get it, we are a superior team why be afraid of anyone blah blah blah. It's competition and gamesmanship, we were one inch and one game from going from homefield advantage to a wildcard in 2019. We were a miraculous comeback and one game away from not even making the playoffs last year. Keep any advantage you can and deny other teams that benefit... its not f*ckin rocket science when it comes to competitive sports lol.

Someone made this point a few days ago, and I will repeat it. If teams signing their division rivals former players gave them a competitive advantage, why is this not standard practice? If signing your rivals players truly helped give them incite and knowledge on the team was actually a real thing, wouldnt this be standard practice in the NFL?

Since it is far from standard practice, logic tells us that this isnt an actual thing.

What? So Seattle doesnt constantly sign our cast offs and for whatever reason has had our number even when we were the superior team. It's definitely their standard practice lol. Regardless it doesnt matter, dont give any advantage till you have to, standard practice or not.
[ Edited by TheRickestRick on Aug 18, 2022 at 11:50 AM ]
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
You love to put words in other people's mouths to form your arguments. It's extremely annoying.

I never said they should cut Jimmy right now or trade him to Seattle.

I'm saying anyone who thinks Jimmy might be a threat to us this season playing for the Seahawks is greatly overreacting to his overall impact and the hurdles he would have to go through to even learn their offense in time.

I mean… wouldn't you like to start against a QB week 2 that your defense practiced against for years, picked off 5 times in one practice, and has only had a couple weeks to learn the playbook?

I'd rather play against 2 QBs who were never good enough to hold down a starting job and lost out to other back ups.

So would I… but I'm not gonna act like the sky is falling and we're doomed because we have to play against Jimmy. That's absurd to act like our defense wouldn't destroy him too. Warner would have at least 5 chances to pick off a pass.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by scooterp10:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
It does not.

Why not?

Because no draft pick we would be getting from them would be worth the capspace rollover we would be losing next season. Every week we hold Jimmy in the season would cost us almost approx $1.5M in that rollover. So unless you are talking about trading him week 1, holding him into the season makes no sense.

The cap space is gained, not lost.
Zero reason to cut him right now. Shoot we held onto him this long, waited for every domino and the only one left is injury elsewhere. What's another week and a half lol
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
You love to put words in other people's mouths to form your arguments. It's extremely annoying.

I never said they should cut Jimmy right now or trade him to Seattle.

I'm saying anyone who thinks Jimmy might be a threat to us this season playing for the Seahawks is greatly overreacting to his overall impact and the hurdles he would have to go through to even learn their offense in time.

I mean… wouldn't you like to start against a QB week 2 that your defense practiced against for years, picked off 5 times in one practice, and has only had a couple weeks to learn the playbook?

I'd rather play against 2 QBs who were never good enough to hold down a starting job and lost out to other back ups.

So would I… but I'm not gonna act like the sky is falling and we're doomed because we have to play against Jimmy. That's absurd to act like our defense wouldn't destroy him too. Warner would have at least 5 chances to pick off a pass.

I dont think the argument is the sky is falling if he signs with them, I think the argument is that if it makes no difference to this team why let another team have a head start in getting him prepped. Remove the name from the player, If player A is better than Players B and C, and its a division rival why not make them wait.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Da fuq lol? Why give a division rival any sort of advantage? JG is better than anyone they currently have and may have incite on any tendencies of this offense or even Lance. It typically takes 17 games on film for the league to figure out a QB, why speed that up just for them.

I get it, we are a superior team why be afraid of anyone blah blah blah. It's competition and gamesmanship, we were one inch and one game from going from homefield advantage to a wildcard in 2019. We were a miraculous comeback and one game away from not even making the playoffs last year. Keep any advantage you can and deny other teams that benefit... its not f*ckin rocket science when it comes to competitive sports lol.

Someone made this point a few days ago, and I will repeat it. If teams signing their division rivals former players gave them a competitive advantage, why is this not standard practice? If signing your rivals players truly helped give them incite and knowledge on the team was actually a real thing, wouldnt this be standard practice in the NFL?

Since it is far from standard practice, logic tells us that this isnt an actual thing.

because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.
If there are no suitors PERIOD, just wait it out and make sure Trey makes it through next week without a catastrophic injury *knock on wood* then cut Jimmy loose.
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